(10-10-2020, 09:39 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote:

(10-10-2020, 09:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote: No, I'm not saying that's why we should keep him.  All I'm saying is I don't know if the picks between '17-'19 are solely attributable to Caldwell or TC, and that includes Chark, Allen and Minshew.  There are arguments for either proposition.

That said, it would not be a surprise to see the entire regime replaced after the season.

That's fair.  After 8 years and one winning season, its time for a new regime.

There are reasons I am not as tough on Caldwell as some of you.

Not sure if it was you or someone else, but one of you said the team was bad before TC got here, which is true.

But the team was horrific before Caldwell get here.  Nobody was going to win with that roster for at least two seasons anyway, unless everything was right up to that point..  Given the burn it down to the ground and start from scratch nature of the rebuild Caldwell undertook, and the disaster of the 2013 draft class, and the coaching mistake of Gus Bradley, it got extended for a year.

Bortles is a draft miss, but he still managed to reach the level Brunell did in terms of advancement in the playoffs in a single year and surpassed Garrard's.

Caldwell is the one GM in this team's history to actually draft a Pro Bowl WR.  Caldwell drafted Allen Robinson around the 61st pick in  2014.  TC didn't his first tenure here, and like I said before, it is unclear from the outside whether TC drafted Chark or not.  As an aside, Chark was also picked at the 61st overall pick.  Caldwell has picked two Pro Bowlers in a draft-again in 2014 with Robinson in the 2nd round and Telvin Smith in the 5th round, just like TC picked Kevin Hardy (2nd overall) and Tony Brackens (2nd round) in 1996).

This brings me to another point.  Caldwell has gotten more out of his mid to late round picks than any other GM in team history.  Shack was decent in mid to late round picks.  Gene Smith was abysmal.  TC was just above Gene Smith in that regard.

Bottom line is Caldwell has his flaws, but he has proven adept at finding Pro Bowl level talent, especially at positions this team has found difficulty filling. 

This isn't to say he hasn't made mistakes or that he is flawless.  But I think the more Pro Bowl level talent you can accumulate, the better you will be-IF YOU RETAIN THEM.

But I can easily see your side.

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