(10-10-2020, 10:58 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: (10-10-2020, 10:42 PM)Bullseye Wrote: But there was little on the roster worth keeping when he got here. It was a 2-14 team. It's not like there were some 6 Pro Bowlers like in Kansas City when Reid took over. For every Daryl Smith, there were 10-15 players on the roster that would not start on another NFL roster.
I have no problem with him blowing it up. But then he went 4-12, 3-13, 5-11, 3-13 his first four seasons. We had a WORSE record in Year 4 than Year 1!!!! And if you want to give Coughlin the blame for things, then you have to give him credit for the one winning season too. Look how the Panthers are doing it now. They blew it up and are very young, but competitive. We were getting spanked for 4 years straight. Then Coughlin came, we had ONE good season, and now its back to crap. A house cleaning is in order.
This is how I see it.
Caldwell inherited a bad roster, and hired a bad coach in Bradley. He didn't know Bradley was a bad coach at the time he hired him, and stuck with him because te roster was so bad.
2013 was a bad draft overall, and prolonged the rebuild by a year.
2014 the team drafted well overall. But the talent infusion was all rookies. It was going to take a while for them to learn to win, especially with Bortles being a rookie.
2015 the team was sill incomplete, and hindered by tBradley's bad coaching and the injury to Fowler.
2016, with Bortles and the rest of the 2014 draft class with two years experience under their belt, and the infusion of talent of the 2016 draft, the team, from a roster standpoint, finally had enough talent to show progress and potentially win. Problem is, Bradley was still the coach. Talent was no longer an excuse for no progress at that point. The team underperformed and thy dumped Bradley. They instlaled Marrone as coach at the end of the year, and the team's performance improved big time the last two games of the year.
2017, TC comes in and puts the inishing touches on the team. He brings in Campbell and Bouye. He drafts Fournette. Fowler is now 2 years removed from his ACL injury. With the incompetent Bradley gone and the reasonably competent Marrone in as coach. The team goes to the playoffs for the first time in forever.
2018, the OL suffers injuries no team would reasonably expected to withstand. The team was down to it's fourth LT by midseason, The 4th LT was the starting RT for the Giants of the beginning of the season and was a bust for them. TC was here, yet the team still lost. The draft-whoever ran it-produced mixed results (Bryan and Chark) overall, but neither did anything as rookies.
2019-TC's last year. TC Signed Foles, and he gets hurt first game of the season. Minshew comes in as a rookie and exceeds all reasonable expectations for him. Ramsey has incident at Houston early in the season. TC confronts him then Ramsey demands a trade and eventually forces the trade to the Rams. Later, NFLPA reveals the Jaguars had 25% of all the grievances filed league wide, and they are all related to TC and his antics. The news creates more embarrassment to the Jaguars, TC gets the blame for the Ramsey trade, and TC is fired before the end of the season.
Even though TC is present for three of the years of Caldwell's tenure, the team still has losing records in two of the three years here.
As you said...there is credit and blame to be apportioned to TC.
TC provided the team with some credibility with the fans and to some players. He takes full credit for free agent acquisition like Bouye and Campbell, and Church. Those guys were instrumental in turning the team around, but a good part of that nucleus of that team was also assembled by Caldwell.
While caldwell coud not attract quality free agents, TC Alienated many of the players here and eventually drove them away.
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
