(01-21-2021, 10:53 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote:

(01-21-2021, 10:47 PM)LMD Wrote: Happy to be rid of Wash.

But wasn't overly thrilled with what Cullen managed to get out of the D-line when he was D-line coach in Jacksonville years ago... If I remember, he was a part of that awful stretch where no one could get to the QB ever. It's been about 10 years, so he could definitely have improved, but then again, it seems the Ravens are almost always consistently a top defensive team, so who knows who's really doing the work?

All that said, after watching Wash's defense these past few years, the bar isn't exactly set too high for Cullen. I hope he clears it with flying colors.

Really?  Your going there?

The guy can't help we had no talent back then.  Coaching only does so much but the talent has to be there.  Look at Bellicheck this year.  The Goat won what 6 games this year?

He didn't get much, if anything, out of the limited talent he had either. Other than Mincey in 2011, no one on the defensive line got pressure. Heck, even Wash as d-line coach helped Andre Branch get 6 sacks in 2013. That'd be the second most sacks in a single season for any of Cullen's three years. And in 2014, Wash got 8.5 from Marks; 8 from the shell of Chris Clemons, and 6.5 from Ryan Davis.

I'm not saying Cullen's a bum who should get mugged outside the stadium or anything; I'm just saying I'm apprehensive. He did a lot with great players in Baltimore and not much with not-great players in Jacksonville ten years ago.

(01-21-2021, 11:04 PM)JagsFanClubOfMD Wrote:

(01-21-2021, 10:47 PM)LMD Wrote: Happy to be rid of Wash.

But wasn't overly thrilled with what Cullen managed to get out of the D-line when he was D-line coach in Jacksonville years ago... If I remember, he was a part of that awful stretch where no one could get to the QB ever. It's been about 10 years, so he could definitely have improved, but then again, it seems the Ravens are almost always consistently a top defensive team, so who knows who's really doing the work?

All that said, after watching Wash's defense these past few years, the bar isn't exactly set too high for Cullen. I hope he clears it with flying colors.

I don’t remember where we ranked in sacks specifically, but he was here in 2011 when we had a top 10 defense iirc.

According to Profootballreference, the Jags rankings for Cullen's three years for sacks:

2010: 31/32 with 26 total sacks.
2011: 25/32 with 31 total sacks (with the caveat that team leader Jeremy Mincey had 8 and the next-highest players were Daryl Smith and Matt Roth with 3.5 each, so while Mincey had a great year, the rest of the d-line... didn't.).
2012: 32/32 with 20 total sacks.

But in fairness: the Jaguars totaled 14 sacks in 2009, the year before Cullen came. So perhaps I just allowed myself to get swept up in the hype after getting rid of Ted Monachino and have less-fond memories of Cullen because he didn't live up to overly lofty expectations.

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