(03-02-2021, 10:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: (03-02-2021, 10:30 PM)Upper Wrote: People keep saying this and then they continually mock us a TE at 33 (and sometimes even 25) that doesn't fit Meyer's system historically and likely won't produce significantly until year 3 if at all. The only reason he is constantly mocked to us is because TE is one of our biggest needs and even moreso now because we hired his college coach. Doesn't sound like letting the draft come to us to me.
A lot of us liked Freiermuth before Bowen got hired and I haven't seen anyone say they want him at 25. My ideal spot is 45 but if we took him at 33 I'd be good with it depending on who is there. Not sure why twitter got you believing this false narrative that the good TEs don't produce till year 3. Even if we sign a TE in FA I'd be ok with taking Freiermuth with one of our 2nds.
I remember a few years back in the O.J. Howard draft class, which was supposedly very deep at TE, we explored that very discussion about TEs tending to not produce early on as a general rule.
I wasn't on twitter then...(and I'm hardly there now).
I think in the right scheme with the right QB, and good health, Friermuth can be a productive player for us early on.
The initial question is whether the Meyer/Bevell offense is the right scheme for a TE to be productive.
Since Bevell became Seattle's offensive coordinator in 2011 and served in that capacity until the end of the 2017 season, the leading TE had the following reception totals:
2-11 Zach Miller 25 receptions
2012 Zach Miller 38 receptions--Russell Wilson's rookie year
2013 Zach Miller 33 receptions-Won Super Bowl
2014 Luke Wilsson 22 receptions-Lost SB to NE
2015 Jimmy Graham 48 receptions
2016 Jimmy Graham 65 receptions
2017 Jimmy Graham 57 receptions
After a year off in 2018, Bevell was Detroit's OC in 2019 and 2020. The leading TE produced the following numbers...
2019 TJ Hockenson 32 receptions
2020 TJ Hockenson 67 receptions
Source: profootballreference.com
Assuming there will be substantial philosophical overlap between Bevell's approaches in Seattle and Detroit and the approach he and Meyer will implement here, I think a sufficiently talented TE (like Friermuth)can be productive in that scheme.
(03-02-2021, 10:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: (03-02-2021, 10:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: A lot of us liked Freiermuth before Bowen got hired and I haven't seen anyone say they want him at 25. My ideal spot is 45 but if we took him at 33 I'd be good with it depending on who is there. Not sure why twitter got you believing this false narrative that the good TEs don't produce till year 3. Even if we sign a TE in FA I'd be ok with taking Freiermuth with one of our 2nds.
So if the ideal spot is 45, how can he be BAP at 33? Wouldn’t the ideal spot for him be 33 since he would be the BAP?
Well...if he is somehow tied at the top of the Jaguars board at 33 but loses out due to positional importance he could be BAP at both spots. I know...a bit of a stretch...but not totally out of the realm of possibility.
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