(04-04-2021, 05:59 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-04-2021, 04:39 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I know where you stand. You are easily manipulated. They throw in one clause in an otherwise disastrous bill and you go all in. Use your brain. Even if they solve the gerrymandering problem (which they won't), it doesn't justify the EVERYTHING ELSE designed to break our system. You're going to be complicit in the destruction of our Republic. I knew when I made my last post that you would chime in with this nonsense. Your reasoning: Here, drink this poison that will kill you, and I'll throw in a delicious hamburger for FREE.

Show me how I'm exaggerating. Look at what the bill is actually proposing.

I haven't read the bill as much as you have.
I am sure that some of it is intolerable.
You see, the House of Representatives still believes that they are dealing with a functional senate, who will moderate their impulses. So they feel free to pass a grab bag of stuff that doesn't even work.
But I'm also sure you're exaggerating the impact of these parts.
I'll read it and get back to you, but first we have to deal with this awful metaphor you just threw out about poison and hamburgers.
Poison kills. Democracy is dead in Wisconsin. It is dead in north carolina, and it is dead in Maryland. It is dead in texas. Democracy almost died in Florida, in California, in ohio, and in Virginia, but it got a bit of a reprieve. The gerrymandering algorithms that exist today can kill democracy as we know it, make a legislative body completely unaccountable to a majority of the people. when I say it is possible to fix gerrymandering, I'm not talking about anything more than what Florida has already done. Drawing district lines will always be controversial. But we can do it in a way that brings all the stakeholders to the table and gives all of them power and influence.

Gerrymandering does take advantage of a loophole in the system. I have already agreed with you about this. It's a difficult problem that is on the radar, and I have acknowledge that it creates an imbalance in representation. We do need to figure out a way to solve this problem. However, we can see gerrymandering and its effects.  

The "For the People" act is a terrible, terrible piece of legislation that will COMPLETELY remove accountability in our elections. Additionally, there is a provision in that bill that will prohibit complaints to be filed in state courts, and all complaints must be jointly filed in the district courts in DC. This means you can't have multiple lawsuits occurring in multiple states. It creates a bottleneck in which any state can challenge this law, and it significantly decreases the chances of this bill reaching the Supreme Court. If you think gerrymandering is remotely close to what's in the "For the People" Act, you're delusional. 

Read the bill, dude. It's garbage. Pelosi and Schumer have said it is the single most important piece of legislation they are filing. I wonder why.

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