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Acceptable Surpluses

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(This post was last modified: 04-10-2021, 11:24 AM by Bullseye.)

(04-10-2021, 09:42 AM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:
(04-10-2021, 09:22 AM)Bullseye Wrote: It happens every year.

In advocating a particular draft strategy, fans and experts alike will examine need to help determine where a team will or will not or should/skould not go.



However, if Baalke is true to his word that he is a BAP drafter and that he will draft irrespective of need, it may be inevitable that some needs will not be addressed adequately, while positions of lesser needs may get draft attention.

So to the extent a team coming off a 1-15 season could have positions of relative strength, what positions would you not mind or object to the team drafting, especially in the early rounds?

If the team "drafted to strength," under what circumstances would you find it acceptable?  What players would you want at the position?

Under what circumstances would you NOT want these strengths to be bolstered further?

This is a great post/question. 

First, I would say the lines are always an acceptable surplus. With the O-line, the company line is that it's a strength, but we all know tackle is a weakness. So I would be OK with more tackles or a guard. Jenkins or Darrisaw (have to trade up) would be more than OK to me. 

Another acceptable surplus would be CB. CJ Henderson in year two, Griffin, and Sydney Jones are a good trio, but I think another blue chip corner could really bolster the sub packages and give the weak pass rush time to get home. Even if another edge rusher is drafted, he'll need time to develop just like Chasson and Allen.
If Caleb Farley falls due to his back surgery, I would love for him to be the pick. 

I don't know that I would consider either line a strength, though Meyer has stated this isn't a blow it up line, and the team spent money to get numbers at the D-Line.  I certainly wouldn't object to a Tackle early on.  Though I might be a little disappointed, I could understand a Barmore pick too. 

If anything, I'd say WR is our strongest position at the moment.  But even I would not object to a WR being taken at the position relatively early, though in fairness, I think better value could be found a little later.

I really like James Robinson, but even with him, I think Etienne would be a tremendous asset.

Farley is an interesting conundrum.  As players, I like him and Newsome.  Because CB is a premium position, I think I could be okay bringing in another CB.  I made the argument  few years back when we had Ramsey and Bouye that there was a strong argument to be made for bringing in Lattimore, and that logic would apply now.  But given Meyer's stated beliefs that you build a defense from the line back, the team would add a DL before another CB given equally ranked players at the positions.  Still, I would hope the Jaguars got a sterling medical prognosis for Farley before pulling the trigger on him.  I still cringe when I think of back injuries that shortened the careers of Michael Cheever and Charles Haley (I know he was never a Jaguar).

We should be cautious when it comes to the edge rushers.  The only ones that really excite me early on are Ojulari and Paye.  I understand there would be a lot of resistance to a pick like that, considering two of our last three first rounders were utilized at the position.

I guess the only thing at the moment that would really irritate me is taking another QB after we took TL.  As long as we're getting good value and good players, and upgrading the team, I could understand just about any position, though my early preference would be for the tools that would help Trevor Lawrence the most.

(04-10-2021, 10:02 AM)Black and Teal Wrote: Edge Rusher!

Are there guys you like at the position?  How high would you take an edge rusher?

(04-10-2021, 10:18 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: I find it difficult to say that a 1-15 team has any strengths. Therefore, there are no positions I'd pass on if the player is clearly the BAP at the time of the selection. That being said, it is very unlikely I'd take a player in rounds 1 or 2 at wide receiver or running back since these are positions of relative strength for the Jaguars. Once round 3 begins, however, I wouldn't hesitate to grab a Dynami Brown at receiver or Michael Carter at running back if I believed they were the BAP at that time.

The one position I would "reach" for is tight end due to that being the team's greatest weakness. I'm clearly in the minority by wanting them to select Freirmuth at pick 33. That being said, if Eichenberg, Moehrig or Collins also happen to be on the board at that time, I'd have to select them over Freirmuth. If that did happen, I'd have to either take Brevin Jordan or Hunter Long in round 3 or trade a 4th for Njoku. Although I used the term "reach" for Freirmuth, that is based only on his pre-draft rankings which typically make him a mid-2nd rounder. Personally, I believe Freirmuth will prove to be more than worthy of the 33rd pick.

Although I am not a huge Hunter Long fan, I pretty much agree with this.

I am an Etienne fan, though, and think he would be a big help to TL.  But he would be the only RB I would be okay with before the 3rd round.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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Messages In This Thread
Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 09:22 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheDogCatcher - 04-10-2021, 09:42 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 11:19 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Black and Teal - 04-10-2021, 10:02 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by jaglou53 - 04-10-2021, 10:18 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheDogCatcher - 04-10-2021, 10:25 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 11:26 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheDogCatcher - 04-10-2021, 10:53 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 11:33 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by jaglou53 - 04-10-2021, 03:49 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by MoJagFan - 04-10-2021, 11:00 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by SeldomRite - 04-10-2021, 11:50 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-10-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 01:06 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by NYC4jags - 04-10-2021, 02:16 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-10-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by NYC4jags - 04-10-2021, 04:11 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Sneakers - 04-10-2021, 07:31 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by iHaunting Raven - 04-10-2021, 07:19 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheDuke007 - 04-10-2021, 02:46 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-10-2021, 07:35 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by anonymous2112 - 04-10-2021, 08:16 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-10-2021, 08:30 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Sneakers - 04-11-2021, 12:08 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by flsprtsgod - 04-12-2021, 05:29 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by The Real Marty - 04-11-2021, 05:53 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by MoJagFan - 04-11-2021, 10:56 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by JagFanatic24 - 04-11-2021, 12:08 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-12-2021, 01:10 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by iHaunting Raven - 04-12-2021, 01:21 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Upper - 04-11-2021, 01:05 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by JagFanatic24 - 04-11-2021, 03:58 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by HURRICANE!!! - 04-11-2021, 04:36 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-12-2021, 12:59 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by The Real Marty - 04-12-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Mikey - 04-12-2021, 08:21 AM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-12-2021, 01:40 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by homebiscuit - 04-12-2021, 02:09 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Bullseye - 04-12-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by JagFanatic24 - 04-12-2021, 09:14 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by iHaunting Raven - 04-13-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: Acceptable Surpluses - by Black and Teal - 04-13-2021, 06:58 PM



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