(06-26-2022, 09:27 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(06-26-2022, 09:08 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Agreed although the argument I've heard that abortion is murder implies that it would be murder in that case also, no?

Polls seem to favor the pro-choice viewpoint. Here's one. Personally, I don't believe it should be used as birth control.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cbs-news-poll...11112.html

I believe what will happen now is state laws will be adjusted in the coming months and years to conform with the moderate views the large middle ground on this issue hold. States with non-abortion trigger laws will most likely change to allow it in certain circumstances. It's going to take some time for this matter to settle out at the state level. I would venture to guess in 2-3 years there will only be a few states where all abortion is illegal.

That is very naive. 
The number of states where the legislature is immune to majority opinion is more than "a few".
I think it will be more common to see states where, at the state level, there are strict, punitive laws, but in the more liberal cities in those states where the abortions actually occur, there will be prosecutors and judges turning blind eyes to the reports they receive.  This is already happening to a small extent in Orlando.  It's one thing when an unethical behavior is legal, but it's worse when that behavior is illegal but not prosecuted.  That is the definition of lawlessness.  We've had almost four decades of lawlessness on immigration and I'm afraid we are coming into even more lawlessness.  And due to the growing number of women who will use medication abortion, there will be some innocent women who are investigated and shamed for their natural miscarriages.  It's awful.  Isn't miscarriage traumatizing enough already?

We can criminalize our way into slightly fewer abortions but the collateral damage will be large.  

But there are other things we can do that will have much more impact.
We can give better sex education.
We can make contraception free.
We can use more tax credits to make having a child less expensive.
We can just be a society that makes it easier to continue with your life while you're pregnant or nursing.  A society that tolerates crying babies in college classrooms.  A society that has more and better part time work opportunities.  
Some of these are not tasks for government, but they are tasks for society.
Why don't we focus on those things?

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