(06-14-2023, 08:04 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(06-14-2023, 07:40 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: It's very possible.

If Trevor takes that third year leap and continues to mimick Josh Allens 3 year growth spurt (including adding a stud WR in year 3)
And if our defense can become a bit more tolerable, we certainly have a shot.

If Mahomes didn't exist i'd say we had really good chances, but that guy is out here replacing Brady right now and he's pissing me off.

He’s better than Brady.

Brady didn’t carry the Pats in the early years. That was all defense and Belicheck. Mahomes been carrying them since day 1.

I would temper that a bit.  He's probably better than Brady at this stage in their careers, but highly highly unlikely he or anyone else accomplishes what Brady did in the entirety of his career.  And carrying them since day 1?  I don't know.  He stepped into a roster with Kelce and Tyreek.  Brady had Troy Brown and Deion Branch. There is a chasm of difference in talent between those receiving groups considering both Kelce and Tyreek are also headed to the Hall and Tyreek left and is still one of the best receivers in the game.  Branch became a nobody when he left.  No, Mahomes wasn't carrying them.  They were collectively great from his onset. 

Putting the Pats early success under Brady all on the Defense is a bit revisionist as well.  I don't remember anyone suggesting such a thing at the time, nor did I look at Brady and have any "Yeah, but..." type of thoughts.  Everyone at the time thought the two best QBs in the league were Brady and Manning.  The debate at the time that has since been put to bed was Manning was better but didn't have the supporting cast. Manning had much better weapons overall during his career than Brady did though.

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