(07-27-2023, 06:31 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(07-27-2023, 12:41 AM)p_rushing Wrote: It's not a lie, she admitted to it on video. There's also video of her going to police after the fact because she was afraid for her life or something like that. You can watch the videos of her scanning ballots multiple times.

You don't have to believe in the larger, coordinated effort across states but the individual issues are clearly shown.


Many civil lawsuits aren't worth defending and the lawyers know this. It's cheaper to just pay them off or give in to their demands. Even if you are innocent, it will most likely cost more to defend yourself and the other side will offer a settlement knowing that.

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Except the full quote and context doesn't mean to "find the votes".

The electors also followed the law and voted on the condition of the lawsuits that were not settled by the date that congress has set for certification. I don't know why liberals keep pushing this, you would have been screaming from the rooftops if Trump won but there were lawsuits still going on during the certification.

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Then post a link. Simply responding with an assertion without proof or verifiable sources is not good enough. 

A lot of people have become so invested in the argument that Trump was robbed they refuse to accept facts. Giuliani has now admitted to lying. The signs are all there that this is not a hill worth dying on. Let go or be dragged.

It's not a hill worth dying on, but Guliani didn't admit to lying. He admitted to not contesting these claims so that he can move past the discovery process. His lawyer said that specifically, "“Defendant Giuliani concedes solely for the purposes of this litigation … that Defendant Giuliani made the statements of and concerning plaintiffs,” his filing said. “He does not dispute for the purposes of this litigation, that the statements carry meaning that is defamatory per se.” His statement makes clear that he does not admit to lying but will accept this claim for litigation only. 

The entire media complex knows this is what he's rolling out, yet they don't try to contextualize the facts. They lead with HE LIED. Look at how they frame these quotes:

Quote:In his court filing, Giuliani specifically said he “does not contest” that assertions he made about the women – whom he accused of being part of a vote-manipulation scheme in Georgia – “were false.”

How can anyone read that and not ask themselves why it's such a broken sentence? "Does not contest were false." That's what they quoted. That doesn't even make sense. Where's the whole sentence? Does that not matter? It's just [BLEEP] spun in a way to frame the narrative a certain way and the VAST majority of the media just runs with it. None of the moderates here care to call them out on their [BLEEP]. I wish you guys would scrutinize the powers that be half as hard as you scrutinized the people they defame. If you literally applied the same standards to the media that you are applying to Guliani, you would say they are lying. 

None of this is a defense of Guliani. He probably is a liar. He's a lawyer and a politician. None of what anyone is posting here proves that he was lying about what he said about these women. It's just proof that he doesn't want to contest it. Anything else is speculative.

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