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Poll: Who would who rather have at 5?
Myles Jack LB/S
Jalen Ramsey CB/S
No opinion/Corn/Who Cares
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Ramsey or Jack

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(This post was last modified: 04-13-2016, 10:31 AM by JagsFansince1995.)

I know the consensus around the league is that Ramsey will probably be gone by the time we pick; but in this scenario i want to ask a couple questions about both Ramsey and Jack.  I have voiced negative opinions on Ramsey but with that on the back burner, for now, i want to discuss the opinion based on film i've seen on both. 

 

Ramsey, in most of his footage, is shown as an "in the box" type of safety when he is standing right over TEs and Ts at the line and coming off the edge on blitz packages.  He is also shown using his size and athleticism jamming receivers early and making it difficult for QBs to get the ball out quickly which is a must have in this league and it also helps cut down on big plays downfield early as well.   The only knock on him that i have though is his ball skills after five yards; and his lack of being able to show any improvement in pre draft drills, because of the format that they are set up in, is concerning.

 

With that being said, Jack is a hybrid LB/S and his role would be to cover TEs and also stop the runs on the edge occasionally blitzing.  He doesn't have as much of a concern when it comes to ball skills and i haven't seen anything jump out at me to make me think that it would be a huge or even big problem as he turns pro.  With the need for a guy to cover the TEs and the need for an outside OTTO/3rd down MLB who can stop the run, blitz, and cover the pass on 3rd down an obvious passing plays, Jack is more solid.

 

I feel that even though i have knocked Ramsey, he would definitely fit what we need on this D; though what concerns me is the Tashaun signing, and the ceiling for Jack at the 2nd biggest need in the front 7...LB.   In this scenario i would go Jack 10 times out of 10 just because he would be asked to do the same as Ramsey as far as covering TEs and the short routes as well as blitzing off the edge.  The only advantage in Ramsey's favor is his CB experience, and with his skillset he is better suited to play S than CB due to his ball skill concerns coming into the league.  With both of them playing in the box mostly in college, i just don't see us passing on Jack, a once in a decade LB, over a excellent press corner that would be moved to S due to his flaws needing tweaks when we already could have a hybrid S/LB all in one and get a press corner in the coming drafts or later rounds.  Lastly, since he would not be our number 1 CB and Jack would be our number 1 OTTO/3rd down MLB from day one i presume, it's an easy decision. 

 

I'm no English Major but opinions please.  This is only about pick 5 and these two are available with no trade down options.


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Ramsey or Jack - by JagsFansince1995 - 04-13-2016, 10:29 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by HolsterHusto - 04-13-2016, 10:33 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by Jagsfan32277 - 04-13-2016, 10:41 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by maheo30 - 04-13-2016, 10:54 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by Markulous - 04-13-2016, 12:28 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by GlockBortles - 04-13-2016, 12:36 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by GlockBortles - 04-13-2016, 12:37 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by The Real Marty - 04-13-2016, 01:04 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Solid Snake - 04-13-2016, 03:49 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Vicbow Rules - 04-13-2016, 03:53 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by JagsFansince1995 - 04-13-2016, 04:29 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Bullseye - 04-13-2016, 07:15 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Markulous - 04-13-2016, 08:19 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Bullseye - 04-13-2016, 08:26 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Markulous - 04-13-2016, 08:45 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by Solid Snake - 04-13-2016, 08:49 PM
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Ramsey or Jack - by HIGH SCORE - 04-14-2016, 01:49 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by DewtheMathis - 04-14-2016, 02:38 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by fredalwaysajag - 04-14-2016, 03:55 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by JagsFansince1995 - 04-14-2016, 01:06 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by StroudCrowd1 - 04-14-2016, 03:05 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by DewtheMathis - 04-14-2016, 11:53 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by DewtheMathis - 04-19-2016, 04:26 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by Solid Snake - 04-19-2016, 07:40 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by Josh Stewart - 04-19-2016, 01:19 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by JagsFansince1995 - 04-19-2016, 04:40 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by DewtheMathis - 04-20-2016, 03:26 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by irontrooper83 - 04-21-2016, 06:51 AM
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Ramsey or Jack - by Minorcan - 04-21-2016, 03:57 PM
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Ramsey or Jack - by Jags - 04-30-2016, 08:17 PM
Ramsey or Jack - by JagsFansince1995 - 05-01-2016, 12:33 AM
Ramsey or Jack - by DewtheMathis - 05-02-2016, 04:31 AM
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