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Week 1: Jags in Indy

(This post was last modified: 09-07-2023, 08:14 AM by Mikey.)

(09-06-2023, 06:22 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: We will see how protective the refs are going to be of the qbs

Still not sure how u tackle these days without getting a penslty

....snowy is that you?

Big Grin 

(love ya both!)

(09-06-2023, 08:15 PM)Khan Artist Wrote:
(09-06-2023, 07:42 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: Oh, man, the setup for heartache is immense.  I really want to see my guy at the Jags do well so I hope the players are not committed to how easy this game will be as the hype train is.

You have a guy on the Jaguars?  Who is it?

assistant to the waterboy. One day they *might* let him fill the squirt bottles!!

(09-06-2023, 08:45 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Lol thought i was gonna quit my job [BLEEP] head manager wasn't trying to let me get sunday off lol. but I got it, time for football.

With paycheck you can afford DVR service, just sayin.
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(09-07-2023, 07:22 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:
(09-06-2023, 08:45 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Lol thought i was gonna quit my job [BLEEP] head manager wasn't trying to let me get sunday off lol. but I got it, time for football.

I've been there.

Now I don't request time off. I just tell them I'm not going to be there that day, if they don't like it sucks for them. I'm an adult and not a slave to any company, as much as I need my income. I always hated jobs that were so strict in their time off policies. Maybe it's the "entitled millennial" in me lol The only thing I'll push my things off to the side for is my kids. [BLEEP] corporate America.

I had a simple rule at every job. Sunday morning/afternoon was reserved for church/family time. You can schedule me any hours the rest of the weekend and I will work them happily. Not like we had a lot of Sunday night games I'd miss, ya know? Most bosses were fine with that, Saturdays were usually the super busy days, so I tended to get those on the schedule, win for everyone. But I also gave them more than three days notice to figure out staffing Wink
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3 days and it’s here, Christmas in September.
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(09-07-2023, 08:25 AM)Mikey Wrote:
(09-07-2023, 07:22 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote: I've been there.

Now I don't request time off. I just tell them I'm not going to be there that day, if they don't like it sucks for them. I'm an adult and not a slave to any company, as much as I need my income. I always hated jobs that were so strict in their time off policies. Maybe it's the "entitled millennial" in me lol The only thing I'll push my things off to the side for is my kids. [BLEEP] corporate America.

I had a simple rule at every job. Sunday morning/afternoon was reserved for church/family time. You can schedule me any hours the rest of the weekend and I will work them happily. Not like we had a lot of Sunday night games I'd miss, ya know? Most bosses were fine with that, Saturdays were usually the super busy days, so I tended to get those on the schedule, win for everyone. But I also gave them more than three days notice to figure out staffing Wink

Right. I used to work at a pizza place and was the only football fan there so I was able to have every Sunday off without issue back then. Don't get me wrong, I give my current manager advanced notice, but I'm never "asking permission" it's just a "hey I won't be here this day"

Back on topic. I have a feeling Indy will be without Leonard this weekend as well. Our offense should be able to operate pretty easily.
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
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(This post was last modified: 09-07-2023, 11:12 AM by JagFanatic24. Edited 1 time in total.)

Leonard is supposed to be out Sunday. He did practice this week.

Get ready for a heavy dose of RPO from Indy.
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I'm starting Lawrence and Engram in one of my FF leagues this week.

Confidence=High
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(09-07-2023, 10:54 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Leonard is supposed to be out Sunday. He did practice this week.

Get ready for a heavy dose of RPO from Indy.
He just cleared his protocol
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(09-07-2023, 11:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: I'm starting Lawrence and Engram in one of my FF leagues this week.

Confidence=High

I'm in 2 money leagues.  1 I have T Law and Etienne and the other I have Ridley and Jags D.  I see good points with all 4
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(09-07-2023, 12:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(09-07-2023, 11:17 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: I'm starting Lawrence and Engram in one of my FF leagues this week.

Confidence=High

I'm in 2 money leagues.  1 I have T Law and Etienne and the other I have Ridley and Jags D.  I see good points with all 4

I have a mixture of Jags receivers in my three leagues (Ridley in two).  The only issue might be having a different 'primary' receiver every game.  Great for the Jags...not so great for fantasy owners.
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(09-06-2023, 07:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(09-06-2023, 06:49 PM)CTEisREAL Wrote: This should be a blow out in Indy.
Their overall roster is very bad. Jags have them beat at every single position except DT (Bucknner).

Funny you should say this. I was wondering if the Colts were as bad as reported, so I plotted out both teams’ starting line-ups on paper, using PFF grades. For rookies and first-year starters, well, those were all obvious wins for their veteran counterparts. I had to make a couple of obvious adjustments (like giving us Ridley, even though his last pff grade was 6.4 points lower than Pittman). The results were surprising: both teams had 10 clearly better players, with two ties (RG and NB). The distribution is even more interesting: the Jags won every offensive skill position and the secondary. The Colts got the OL and 5 of the 6 DL&LB positions (I assume Nickel D for both teams).

Obviously, pff grading has its limitations, but these teams are closer in talent than I assumed. Of course, the QB position is our biggest advantage, and it happens to be the most important position on the field. But I’d say the myth that we’re better at every single position is DEBUNKED!
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Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?
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(09-07-2023, 12:37 PM)Hetfield Wrote:
(09-06-2023, 07:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Their overall roster is very bad. Jags have them beat at every single position except DT (Bucknner).

Funny you should say this.  I was wondering if the Colts were as bad as reported, so I plotted out both teams’ starting line-ups on paper, using PFF grades.  For rookies and first-year starters, well, those were all obvious wins for their veteran counterparts.  I had to make a couple of obvious adjustments (like giving us Ridley, even though his last pff grade was 6.4 points lower than Pittman).  The results were surprising: both teams had 10 clearly better players, with two ties (RG and NB).  The distribution is even more interesting: the Jags won every offensive skill position and the secondary.  The Colts got the OL and 5 of the 6 DL&LB positions (I assume Nickel D for both teams). 

Obviously, pff grading has its limitations, but these teams are closer in talent than I assumed.  Of course, the QB position is our biggest advantage, and it happens to be the most important position on the field.  But I’d say the myth that we’re better at every single position is DEBUNKED!
PFF has a ton of limitations. Here’s how I view the advantages:

HC- Jags
QB-Jags
RBs- Jags
WRs- Jags
TE- Jags
OLine- likely a wash
DE- Jags
DT- clots
LB- Jags (even with Shaq playing)
CB- Jags
Safeties- Jags

You can surely use PFF grades if you wish but I think they can be very misleading.
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(09-07-2023, 12:44 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?

All hype over here!
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
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(09-07-2023, 12:44 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?

I ain’t skeered.
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(09-07-2023, 12:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(09-07-2023, 12:37 PM)Hetfield Wrote: Funny you should say this.  I was wondering if the Colts were as bad as reported, so I plotted out both teams’ starting line-ups on paper, using PFF grades.  For rookies and first-year starters, well, those were all obvious wins for their veteran counterparts.  I had to make a couple of obvious adjustments (like giving us Ridley, even though his last pff grade was 6.4 points lower than Pittman).  The results were surprising: both teams had 10 clearly better players, with two ties (RG and NB).  The distribution is even more interesting: the Jags won every offensive skill position and the secondary.  The Colts got the OL and 5 of the 6 DL&LB positions (I assume Nickel D for both teams). 

Obviously, pff grading has its limitations, but these teams are closer in talent than I assumed.  Of course, the QB position is our biggest advantage, and it happens to be the most important position on the field.  But I’d say the myth that we’re better at every single position is DEBUNKED!
PFF has a ton of limitations. Here’s how I view the advantages:

HC- Jags
QB-Jags
RBs- Jags
WRs- Jags
TE- Jags
OLine- likely a wash
DE- Jags
DT- clots
LB- Jags (even with Shaq playing)
CB- Jags
Safeties- Jags

You can surely use PFF grades if you wish but I they can be very misleading.

I’ll go:

QB: Jags
WR: Jags
RB: Jags
TE: tie/no advantage
IOL: Colts
OT: Colts

D is tricky due to our pass rushers being technically LBs and them running a traditional 4-3…but:

DT and EDGE: Colts
LB: Colts
CB: Jags
S: Jags

It’ll be on Lawrence to get the ball out quick. We should have more success in the air against their young secondary than on the ground. If we can impose our will in the passing game despite our poor OL, we should be alright in this one.
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(09-07-2023, 12:27 PM)RicoTx Wrote:
(09-07-2023, 12:14 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I'm in 2 money leagues.  1 I have T Law and Etienne and the other I have Ridley and Jags D.  I see good points with all 4

I have a mixture of Jags receivers in my three leagues (Ridley in two).  The only issue might be having a different 'primary' receiver every game.  Great for the Jags...not so great for fantasy owners.

Depends on where you drafted them.  I took Ridley in the 4th round in a 12 man league.  I think he will put up what I'm looking for out of my 4th round pick
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I took Etienne in the 5th round. With all the passing game weapons, I'm hoping he gets some open lanes. We are a scoring only league that has been going for 27 years.
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(09-07-2023, 12:44 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?

No because this is pro football and no team is “supposed” to beat any team. And any team can be beat by any team. Just like when the Jaguars beat Denver in the ‘96 playoffs. 

Phat Tony on 1010 is one of the main ones that keeps saying “we’re finally becoming a team that will win the games we’re supposed to win.”

Skip Bayless says these same type of things and it’s because they’ve never laced up a pair of cleats, Tony too.  

Chris Berman says it best “And that’s why they play the games.”

Don’t get caught up in all that we’re supposed to win crap. That’s when you go out and get 50 hung on your dome.
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(09-07-2023, 02:55 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote:
(09-07-2023, 12:44 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?

No because this is pro football and no team is “supposed” to beat any team. And any team can be beat by any team. Just like when the Jaguars beat Denver in the ‘96 playoffs. 

Phat Tony on 1010 is one of the main ones that keeps saying “we’re finally becoming a team that will win the games we’re supposed to win.”

Skip Bayless says these same type of things and it’s because they’ve never laced up a pair of cleats, Tony too.  

Chris Berman says it best “And that’s why they play the games.”

Don’t get caught up in all that we’re supposed to win crap. That’s when you go out and get 50 hung on your dome.
So if the Chiefs played the Cardinals on Sunday…. At Arrowhead…. You wouldn’t say “The Chiefs are supposed to win this game?”
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(This post was last modified: 09-07-2023, 03:50 PM by Mikey.)

(09-07-2023, 12:37 PM)Hetfield Wrote:
(09-06-2023, 07:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Their overall roster is very bad. Jags have them beat at every single position except DT (Bucknner).

Funny you should say this.  I was wondering if the Colts were as bad as reported, so I plotted out both teams’ starting line-ups on paper, using PFF grades.  For rookies and first-year starters, well, those were all obvious wins for their veteran counterparts.  I had to make a couple of obvious adjustments (like giving us Ridley, even though his last pff grade was 6.4 points lower than Pittman).  The results were surprising: both teams had 10 clearly better players, with two ties (RG and NB).  The distribution is even more interesting: the Jags won every offensive skill position and the secondary.  The Colts got the OL and 5 of the 6 DL&LB positions (I assume Nickel D for both teams). 

Obviously, pff grading has its limitations, but these teams are closer in talent than I assumed.  Of course, the QB position is our biggest advantage, and it happens to be the most important position on the field.  But I’d say the myth that we’re better at every single position is DEBUNKED!

They are not close where it matters most, and that's all you need to know. The rest is wasted effort.

(09-07-2023, 12:44 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: Anyone else fearing massive amounts of disappointment?

The only way things go south is if something catastrophic happens, and that emotion will be far, far away from disappointment.
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