Id be ok for picking up Stephen Hill but cutting Storm Johnson at this point would be foolish.

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I laugh at those who say Storm Johnson wouldn't clear waivers to be put on the practice squad. He was a 7th rounder who showed absolutely nothing in preseason. Not that I have any issues with Storm as a developmental player, but this is a case of overvaluing our own players if you really believe he is that hot of a commodity.

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I laugh at those who say Storm Johnson wouldn't clear waivers to be put on the practice squad. He was a 7th rounder who showed absolutely nothing in preseason. Not that I have any issues with Storm as a developmental player, but this is a case of overvaluing our own players if you really believe he is that hot of a commodity.

Apparently, the front office saw things differently.

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I laugh at those who say Storm Johnson wouldn't clear waivers to be put on the practice squad. He was a 7th rounder who showed absolutely nothing in preseason. Not that I have any issues with Storm as a developmental player, but this is a case of overvaluing our own players if you really believe he is that hot of a commodity.

 

He has zero speed, showed zero ability.  But yes, according to this board he's a future All-Pro.

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He has zero speed, showed zero ability.  But yes, according to this board he's a future All-Pro.

Not a future All-Pro, but a guy who could be groomed to be a solid option. We as fans didn't get to see much of what he is capable of in the preseason. But the coaches and front office apparently saw enough to feel he earned a roster spot.

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He has zero speed, showed zero ability.  But yes, according to this board he's a future All-Pro.

 

None of the Jags RB have really looked all that great. Its a product of the poor run blocking. 

 

Just like the opposite effect happens on the Eagles - their OL is one of the best in football, and conversely almost any RB they trot out there looks really good and productive. Even Shady McCoy would likely see a dip in production running behind our OL. 

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None of the Jags RB have really looked all that great. Its a product of the poor run blocking. 

 

Just like the opposite effect happens on the Eagles - their OL is one of the best in football, and conversely almost any RB they trot out there looks really good and productive. Even Shady McCoy would likely see a dip in production running behind our OL.

Agreed. Run blocking didn't help any of our backs in the preseason.

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He has zero speed, showed zero ability. But yes, according to this board he's a future All-Pro.

Agree with the posts about run blocking and to add, he was running the ball behind the second and third options. That certainly doesn't help.


Keep in mind he is a rookie and 90% of the time it takes rookies a while to adjust to the pro game.


If you want to see what he's capable of go back to last years ucf games and watch him dominate.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Some rookies we could look at:

 

Ricardo Allen, CB, Atlanta - 5th round pick

Lache Seastrunk - RB, Washington - 6th round pick, did this in the final pre-season game:



 

Jon Halapio, G, New England - 6th round pick

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Not a future All-Pro, but a guy who could be groomed to be a solid option. We as fans didn't get to see much of what he is capable of in the preseason. But the coaches and front office apparently saw enough to feel he earned a roster spot.

After MJD's rookie season, I guess the expectation is for every rookie RB to flash like him.


I would like to see Storm kept around on the practice squad. I mean, look at Rashad Jennings. He's starting to develop into a feature back. Some guys flash right away, some guys take time to develop. Storm, I know, has the speed. I noticed a lot of indecisiveness in his running, which means he was thinking too much. For the system we run, we need a RB that is quick to make the decision to hit the right hole. With the offensive line we have, it's even more important

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Indecisiveness can be overcome with experience and exposure to the speed of the game at this level. Storm clearly has the talent or they wouldn't be keeping him on the active roster.

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The Jags interior line have been poor run blockers for years and never seems to improve. Nor do we ever address the issue in the draft, which is weird for a "run first" team, and "build through the draft". as all prior coaches and GM's have emphasized was their philosophy.

Even the new regime ranks the interior line low on importance if you go by the drafts and FA.. I think Rackley is the only Guard or Center drafted in the last 5 draft classes.  No matter the GM, once they hit Jacksonville they all seem to place little value on the interior of the line, and keep picking up Cast offs and Justin Smileys and plugging them in as if all guards and centers are interchangeable. It seems obvious that Street guards and center are not working, and it would be great to one day draft a Starting center. Both Leftwich and Garrard are done for and a lot of it was brutal beatings coming straight up the middle , yet still we stuck with Meester year after year, and still refuse to draft a pure center. 

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The Jags interior line have been poor run blockers for years and never seems to improve. Nor do we ever address the issue in the draft, which is weird for a "run first" team, and "build through the draft". as all prior coaches and GM's have emphasized was their philosophy.

Even the new regime ranks the interior line low on importance if you go by the drafts and FA.. I think Rackley is the only Guard or Center drafted in the last 5 draft classes.  No matter the GM, once they hit Jacksonville they all seem to place little value on the interior of the line, and keep picking up Cast offs and Justin Smileys and plugging them in as if all guards and centers are interchangeable. It seems obvious that Street guards and center are not working, and it would be great to one day draft a Starting center. Both Leftwich and Garrard are done for and a lot of it was brutal beatings coming straight up the middle , yet still we stuck with Meester year after year, and still refuse to draft a pure center. 

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The Jags interior line have been poor run blockers for years and never seems to improve. Nor do we ever address the issue in the draft, which is weird for a "run first" team, and "build through the draft". as all prior coaches and GM's have emphasized was their philosophy.

Even the new regime ranks the interior line low on importance if you go by the drafts and FA.. I think Rackley is the only Guard or Center drafted in the last 5 draft classes.  No matter the GM, once they hit Jacksonville they all seem to place little value on the interior of the line, and keep picking up Cast offs and Justin Smileys and plugging them in as if all guards and centers are interchangeable. It seems obvious that Street guards and center are not working, and it would be great to one day draft a Starting center. Both Leftwich and Garrard are done for and a lot of it was brutal beatings coming straight up the middle , yet still we stuck with Meester year after year, and still refuse to draft a pure center.

This front office has been here for two years, and they had a ton of holes to plug with a limited number of opportunities to do so. They obviously see a priority in fixing the line or they wouldn't have gone after Mack the way they did.

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The Jags interior line have been poor run blockers for years and never seems to improve. Nor do we ever address the issue in the draft, which is weird for a "run first" team, and "build through the draft". as all prior coaches and GM's have emphasized was their philosophy. 

 

I disagree. The Jags interior actually used to be pretty good run blockers, up until they switched to the ZBS in 2013. Where the Jags have perennially been poor on the interior OL is pass blocking and it seems that still has not improved. It sure seems like our QB still take too many hits emanating from pressure up the middle. 

 

I also disagree that we never address this issue in the draft....Will Rackley was a 3rd rounder a few years ago... Linder and Bowanko were added this draft. In Rackley's case he just was a bad choice. The jury is still out on the other 2. 

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This front office has been here for two years, and they had a ton of holes to plug with a limited number of opportunities to do so. They obviously see a priority in fixing the line or they wouldn't have gone after Mack the way they did.

 

Well, I liked the Mack attempt, but someone on our side failed in their responsibility since our offer was matched by Cleveland in a nanosecond. We must have been way too conservative in what we offered Mack. 

 

Its such a shame, because a guy like Mack is exactly what the Dr. ordered for this OL. He'd likely have been the veteran rock that it needs for stability. 

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Don't really call it a failure per se, as much as a gross miscalculation. It was an extremely generous deal and I don't think anyone believed the dookies would've matched as quick as they did, considering they have Haden, Cameron, and at the time Gordon possibly needing new deals.


Give the front office credit for having the gonads to throw a deal out there that high. It'll be interesting to see where the Browns scrounge up enough cash to stay competitive when they have so much cash locked up in Thomas and Mack.

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I disagree. The Jags interior actually used to be pretty good run blockers, up until they switched to the ZBS in 2013. Where the Jags have perennially been poor on the interior OL is pass blocking and it seems that still has not improved. It sure seems like our QB still take too many hits emanating from pressure up the middle.


I also disagree that we never address this issue in the draft....Will Rackley was a 3rd rounder a few years ago... Linder and Bowanko were added this draft. In Rackley's case he just was a bad choice. The jury is still out on the other 2.

The run blocking was bad before the zbs.


Is that your new scapegoat?


Its blasphemous to think that maybe just some better players would change that, right?

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

They made a strong offer for Mack, and, unfortunately, the Browns reserved the right to match any offer.  The old poison pill verbiage that used to be put in contracts to keep a team from matching are no longer allowed by the league.  No one in the office "failed in their responsibility".  You are smarter than this.

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Don't really call it a failure per se, as much as a gross miscalculation. It was an extremely generous deal and I don't think anyone believed the dookies would've matched as quick as they did, considering they have Haden, Cameron, and at the time Gordon possibly needing new deals.


Give the front office credit for having the gonads to throw a deal out there that high. It'll be interesting to see where the Browns scrounge up enough cash to stay competitive when they have so much cash locked up in Thomas and Mack.

 

Its not really that much of a handcuff though. The Browns only have to keep him for 2 years, then they can cut him with minimal cap effect (if need be), IIRC. 

 

The speed in which the Browns matched the offer, suggest that the Jags offer really wasn't that "high", all things considered. 

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