Harbaugh just sounds like someone who is difficult to work with.

 

Yep. He's super competitive and has a short fuse. The rah-rah stuff resonates in the NFL locker room, though, making him an effective coach. But I can certainly see his alpha-male complex becoming boorish inside the 49ers FO. 

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I wonder if Harbaugh is going to be similar to Rex Ryan in that teams will play for him for a few years, then fall off once his message gets "old". I can see Harbaugh really ramping up the intensity this next season, to the point that you wonder if he'll be intolerable on the sidelines.

 

I don't know that it will happen, but it's going to be interesting to watch.

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I wonder if Harbaugh is going to be similar to Rex Ryan in that teams will play for him for a few years, then fall off once his message gets "old". I can see Harbaugh really ramping up the intensity this next season, to the point that you wonder if he'll be intolerable on the sidelines.

 

I don't know that it will happen, but it's going to be interesting to watch.

 

Agree.  The jerk factor certainly seems to be high with Jim.

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I don't think Harbaugh would be too happy about that.  Being on the cusp of a superbowl win and abruptly traded to a snakebitten team that just gave away all their draft picks. 

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I don't think Harbaugh would be too happy about that.  Being on the cusp of a superbowl win and abruptly traded to a snakebitten team that just gave away all their draft picks. 

 

Not if this Cleveland sports radio guy is correct.

 

Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 11m

Browns never reached out to Harbaugh. HE TOLD THEM HE WANTED THE JOB when they called on Roman & Tomsula.

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Not if this Cleveland sports radio guy is correct.

 

Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 11m

Browns never reached out to Harbaugh. HE TOLD THEM HE WANTED THE JOB when they called on Roman & Tomsula.

 

Interesting.  But I think losing the draft picks would be kind of a deal breaker.  I don't know what they we're willing to give up, but one of the good things about the job is the two first rounders. 

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Jerk factor or not, the guy (Harbaugh) can obviously coach and win. He's won at every stop he's been including SDST. The Niners were crap before he arrived and he's posted 3 straight 12 win seasons one of which coming within a hair of the SB title. The Niners would be beyond foolish to let him leave, regardless of draft pick compensation. 

 

If it can't get worked out between the Niners and him I'd like to see the Jags make a play for him. He'd be worth it. He produces results. Everywhere. I like Gus, but Gus would have to really do something special this season to make me not consider making a play for what I believe is one of the top 3 head coaches in the sport. (and still young for a head coach) 

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Jerk factor or not, the guy (Harbaugh) can obviously coach and win. He's won at every stop he's been including SDST. The Niners were crap before he arrived and he's posted 3 straight 12 win seasons one of which coming within a hair of the SB title. The Niners would be beyond foolish to let him leave, regardless of draft pick compensation. 

 

If it can't get worked out between the Niners and him I'd like to see the Jags make a play for him. He'd be worth it. He produces results. Everywhere. I like Gus, but Gus would have to really do something special this season to make me not consider making a play for what I believe is one of the top 3 head coaches in the sport. (and still young for a head coach) 

 

Jim is the little brother with a chip on his shoulder.  An effort kid.  Effort that can't close the gap with his more talented brother, and it's that angst that drives him.

 

I'd rather keep Gus.  You don't need a bad attitude to be a success.  I see the same self desctructiveness in Jim as I do Rex Ryan.  Give it time.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Jim is the little brother with a chip on his shoulder.  An effort kid.  Effort that can't close the gap with his more talented brother, and it's that angst that drives him.

 

I'd rather keep Gus.  You don't need a bad attitude to be a success.  I see the same self desctructiveness in Jim as I do Rex Ryan.  Give it time.

 

 

You'd probably be saying goodbye to Caldwell too if this happened, not just Gus.  

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You'd probably be saying goodbye to Caldwell too if this happened, not just Gus.  

 

Not necessarily. Caldwell has a 5 year deal. Gus was only hired for 4. Caldwell would have 3 years remaining. 

 

...and whose to say that Bradley can't have a disappointing year this upcoming season. Many are just assuming that that won't happen, but it could. - ....and if it does, and that coincides with Harbaugh becoming available, then guess what - we would be fools for not at least putting some serious thought into trying to acquire a proven top "5" at worst, head coach in this league. 

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Jim is the little brother with a chip on his shoulder.  An effort kid.  Effort that can't close the gap with his more talented brother, and it's that angst that drives him.

 

I'd rather keep Gus.  You don't need a bad attitude to be a success.  I see the same self desctructiveness in Jim as I do Rex Ryan.  Give it time.

 

THats a bit premature to say, I'd think. At the same point in each's head coaching career, Jim has been the more successful coach. If Jim doesn't win win the ring in the next few years, then the above could be said about John getting better results.

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Not necessarily. Caldwell has a 5 year deal. Gus was only hired for 4. Caldwell would have 3 years remaining. 

 

...and whose to say that Bradley can't have a disappointing year this upcoming season. Many are just assuming that that won't happen, but it could. - ....and if it does, and that coincides with Harbaugh becoming available, then guess what - we would be fools for not at least putting some serious thought into trying to acquire a proven top "5" at worst, head coach in this league. 

 

I swear I was about to post the same exact thing.

 

If it gets to a point to where Gus plants and builds his fruit of talent but cant get them over the hump, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him get fired and Harbaugh comes in and takes the team to a different level while enjoying Gus' fruits and labor. Kinda like the Dungy/Gruden situation in TB.

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Jerk factor or not, the guy (Harbaugh) can obviously coach and win. He's won at every stop he's been including SDST. The Niners were crap before he arrived and he's posted 3 straight 12 win seasons one of which coming within a hair of the SB title. The Niners would be beyond foolish to let him leave, regardless of draft pick compensation. 

 

If it can't get worked out between the Niners and him I'd like to see the Jags make a play for him. He'd be worth it. He produces results. Everywhere. I like Gus, but Gus would have to really do something special this season to make me not consider making a play for what I believe is one of the top 3 head coaches in the sport. (and still young for a head coach) 

 

Damn right.  I would take Harbaugh here in a heartbeat.  Great coach at San Diego State, Stanford, and now the Niners.  Three separate places and three entirely different levels of programs is not an anomaly.  The guy would be an instant upgrade for the majority of NFL teams right now if he went there.  Top coach all the way. 

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I swear I was about to post the same exact thing.

 

If it gets to a point to where Gus plants and builds his fruit of talent but cant get them over the hump, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him get fired and Harbaugh comes in and takes the team to a different level while enjoying Gus' fruits and labor. Kinda like the Dungy/Gruden situation in TB.

 

Yup, and given that Caldwell has 3 years AFTER this season remaining, and the Jags have a season this upcoming year that really starts to make Dave (and Shad) wonder if Gus can lead this team over the hump, then I could easily see Caldwell feel he might need to make a change - especially in this unique situation of a guy like Harbaugh becoming available. Caldwell understands that if there aren't results - HIS job is also eventually on the line. The extra year Caldwell has over Gus' contract gives Caldwell some flexibility, or should I say gives him the opportunity to try it with another coach while he's still here. If Caldwell's contract was only a 4 year deal, it would be easier for Khan to simply flush the whole thing. I could see a scenario where Caldwell pretty much feels pressured to make the Harbaugh move if only to preserve his job. Now understand, ideally, I'd rather just have Gus do a fantastic job and no need to even bother with Harbaugh.....but I'm just saying we need to keep an open mind about this and not just assume that Bradley is untouchable or unable to disappoint this upcoming season. 

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I don't think his style of coaching is sustainable over a more than a few years.  The jerk factor eventually wins out and players and FO sour on him.  I also don't think Caldwell would want anything to do with him.

 

He may prove my theory wrong - but I don't think so.  He'll have to make a Coughlin-ish adjustment IMO to have long term success with one franchise. 

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I don't think his style of coaching is sustainable over a more than a few years.  The jerk factor eventually wins out and players and FO sour on him.  I also don't think Caldwell would want anything to do with him.

 

He may prove my theory wrong - but I don't think so.  He'll have to make a Coughlin-ish adjustment IMO to have long term success with one franchise. 

 

I was actually wondering about this myself. The longest he's been a Head Coach was his four year stint at Stanford. Granted, you get a lot more roster churn at the college level, so your message staying "fresh" is a bit easier, but I wonder if he is going to be one of those coaches who can't sustain long-term success.

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Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

THats a bit premature to say, I'd think. At the same point in each's head coaching career, Jim has been the more successful coach. If Jim doesn't win win the ring in the next few years, then the above could be said about John getting better results.

 

Psst... John has the ring to show it already.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Psst... John has the ring to show it already.

 

It took John till his 5th year to get  that ring. Jim's just now entering his 4th year. Jim's ahead of where John was at similar points of their coaching career's. 

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It took John till his 5th year to get  that ring. Jim's just now entering his 4th year. Jim's ahead of where John was at similar points of their coaching career's. 

 

Means nothing without the ring.  Until then it's only an unrealized fantasy.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

It took John till his 5th year to get that ring. Jim's just now entering his 4th year. Jim's ahead of where John was at similar points of their coaching career's.

The guy with a ring is behind the guy without one?


I must admit that's very original.

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