I would be surprised if the Dolphins don't make a hard push to sign him. Their line is in shambles, definitely the worst situation in the league. Signing Monroe would be a great start for them. I also think Brandon Albert is a free agent as well. 

 

They still don't know what Jonathan Martin will do yet. With a huge culture change and at least two offenders gone, he might decide to stay in Miami.

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They still don't know what Jonathan Martin will do yet. With a huge culture change and at least two offenders gone, he might decide to stay in Miami.

 

Even if he does, he is more suited for the right side. He was awful as a LT this year. 

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Even if he does, he is more suited for the right side. He was awful as a LT this year. 

 

You mean last year. It was only his second season, so he might be a late bloomer.

 

Signing Monroe would be ironic because that trade made Bryant McKinnie expendable, so he was traded to Miami after Monroe was traded to the Ravens.

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How? How does this become a sweet deal for them? If he signs long-term with them, then what is the difference in that and them signing him in Free Agency after he finished his contract in Jacksonville? The only difference that I see is that Baltimore would still have two draft picks if they didn't make the trade.

 

Bottom line - at least from my perspective - is that Baltimore traded away two draft picks in order for Monroe to play eleven games for them; six of which, they lost. I'm not proclaiming Caldwell as a genius or anything here, but Ozzie gave up more than I would have for a guy to play eleven games.

The trade gives them the opportunity to sign him without him going to free agency.

 

Once he is on the open market he could wind up anywhere.

 

The fact that he needs a new contract hasn't changed since day 1.

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The trade gives them the opportunity to sign him without him going to free agency.

 

Once he is on the open market he could wind up anywhere.

 

The fact that he needs a new contract hasn't changed since day 1.

 

But they could have saved themselves two draft picks. Now they have to go two whole rounds with no picks.

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But they could have saved themselves two draft picks. Now they have to go two whole rounds with no picks.

Giving up the two draft picks may mean they don't have to cross their fingers and hope that they can find a good LT on the open market.

 

The situation hasn't changed since the day they made the trade. I don't know why people are acting like there was some sort of new revelation that solidifies their position.

 

If the ravens are able to secure a long term deal with Monroe and he goes on to be a solid LT for them then the 4th and 5th round picks will be considered peanuts and they will have made out like bandits. If Monroe doesn't sign with them or regresses as a player, then it was a good deal for the jags.

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Or they could have waited until now and got him anyway without giving up draft picks?

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Or they could have waited until now and got him anyway without giving up draft picks?

Actually, they would have had to wait until free agency began and then compete with every other interested team for his services which greatly diminishes the chances of Monroe ever signing with them.

 

The ravens can offer him a fair deal and get him signed next week before any other team gets the opportunity to one up them. The whole point of the trade from the ravens point of view was to give them a chance to sign him without him ever going on the open market. The odds are pretty good in favor of that happening.

 

Kind of like paying an option premium. The trade gave them the right of first refusal.

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But the Jags where not going to keep him next year so it was a good trade for the Jags, right?

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But the Jags where not going to keep him next year so it was a good trade for the Jags, right?

A 4th and a 5th rd pick for a premium position that we used the number two overall pick in the draft to fill.

 

Like I said, it is still too early to tell, but the optimistic view from our side is a good trade for the jags. The optimistic view from their side is a great trade for the ravens.

 

I think in retrospect this won't be considered one of Caldwell's best moves.

 

If Caldwell's tenure doesn't turn out too hot, this could very well be the move that the media will point out as being the beginning of the end. If Caldwell goes on to be successful, then it will be completely forgotten by everyone.

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Actually, they would have had to wait until free agency began and then compete with every other interested team for his services which greatly diminishes the chances of Monroe ever signing with them.
 
The ravens can offer him a fair deal and get him signed next week before any other team gets the opportunity to one up them. The whole point of the trade from the ravens point of view was to give them a chance to sign him without him ever going on the open market. The odds are pretty good in favor of that happening.
 
Kind of like paying an option premium. The trade gave them the right of first refusal.

The whole point of the trade from the Ravens point of view was to get a LT to protect Flacco for a playoff or Super Bowl run last year. Once the year ends, the only advantage they have with signing Monroe is the use or threat of a franchise tag. If Monroe and his agent believe he is worth a certain level of dollars in free agency, they will not sign a new deal with the Ravens prior to free agency for less. The trade did not give them any 'right' of first refusal, only the right to use the franchise tag.

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The whole point of the trade from the Ravens point of view was to get a LT to protect Flacco for a playoff or Super Bowl run last year. Once the year ends, the only advantage they have with signing Monroe is the use or threat of a franchise tag. If Monroe and his agent believe he is worth a certain level of dollars in free agency, they will not sign a new deal with the Ravens prior to free agency for less. The trade did not give them any 'right' of first refusal, only the right to use the franchise tag.

It does give them the right of first refusal. Right now they are the only team in the league who can actively negotiate a deal with him and they consider making that deal with him their top priority over the next few weeks.

 

If their gamble doesn't work then they are out a 4th and a 5th. If they can lock him down long term, then they will have hit one out of the park with a premium player.

 

There is really no point in playing the what if game right now. He will sign or he won't sign with the ravens. We will find out very soon who got the short end of the stick.

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One of the things you have to look at are the things Monroe isn't saying like wanting to test the FA market or wanting to be the highest paid player at his position. All he has basically said is that he doesn't want to be low balled. As long as the ravens don't low ball him, I think Monroe will be their LT for the next 5 years.

 

Not a bad return on the investment of a 4th and 5th rd pick.

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Monroe was not going to resign with Jacksonville and Jacksonville was not competing.

 

While I believe we could've gotten more for him, it's like complaining that you won $100 dollars for cashing your ticket in instead of $110.

 

EDIT: This isn't directed at anyone, I'm just posting just to be posting.

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THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

Or they could have waited until now and got him anyway without giving up draft picks?

 

Then they would be in a competition with every other team that needs a left tackle and possibly miss out on him.

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Monroe was not going to resign with Jacksonville and Jacksonville was not competing.

 

While I believe we could've gotten more for him, it's like complaining that you won $100 dollars for cashing your ticket in instead of $110.

 

EDIT: This isn't directed at anyone, I'm just posting just to be posting.

 

I just don't understand why the Ravens wanted to give us two picks when they did not have extras to make up for them. Now they need to find a way to get a fourth or fifth round pick to make up for one they lost.

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I just don't understand why the Ravens wanted to give us two picks when they did not have extras to make up for them. Now they need to find a way to get a fourth or fifth round pick to make up for one they lost.

4th and 5th rd picks are peanuts to a team with an established roster.

 

To a team like the ravens, adding a guy like Monroe, who is an immediate upgrade and starter, means much more than adding a couple of guys who will be buried on their depth chart that may or may not develop years down the road.

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I just don't understand why the Ravens wanted to give us two picks when they did not have extras to make up for them. Now they need to find a way to get a fourth or fifth round pick to make up for one they lost.

1)  They anticipated being a playoff team and needed a LT, so he filled a current need.

2)  He was a proven talent.

3)  They're in a much better position to evaluate his skills, work ethic and character than they would be in a typical free agent situation.

4)  They're able to negotiate before he becomes a free agent.

 

If they sign him, it turns into a very good deal for them.  If they don't, they gambled and lost.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

OK there is one more thing we have not touched on yet: Where would Monroe go if the Ravens don't give him a new contract?

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1)  They anticipated being a playoff team and needed a LT, so he filled a current need.

2)  He was a proven talent.

3)  They're in a much better position to evaluate his skills, work ethic and character than they would be in a typical free agent situation.

4)  They're able to negotiate before he becomes a free agent.

 

If they sign him, it turns into a very good deal for them.  If they don't, they gambled and lost.

 

1. But they were wrong in their assessment. They did not make the playoffs, despite adding Monroe and ended up at a sub 0.500 winning percentage once he was added to the roster. Did he really fill that need? How much improvement did Monroe provide to the Baltimore roster?

 

2 and 3 contradict themselves. If Monroe was a proven talent, then why did they need to increase their position to evaluate all of those things that you listed? If he was proven all of that isn't really necessary.

 

4 So they gave up two draft picks just so they could get to the head of the line?!?!?! That seems like a rather steep price doesn't it, especially considering that Monroe has gone on record as saying that there is no "hometown discount"?

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