Lol you care to give me an in depth breakdown of AP, Eric Dickerson, and Bo Jacksons college teams so we can get an apt comparison on them carrying their teams singlehandedly.

I forgot to add, Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders. On teams that just ran the ball, back in the day when spread offense didn't exist.

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Why not get a guy who can do both? Samuels is a home run threat, but he's not great at getting the tough 3-4 yard runs up the middle. He just lacks the size and strength. Ivory can get the tough 3-4 yard runs on occasion, but he couldn't break a long run if there was only one defender on the field. He just lacks the speed and burst. I don't see why we'd want multiple backs with flaws in their game. Why not try and get an every down runner with both skill sets? I've just never been a fan of teams with a rotating backfield. 

 

Foreman has flaws, too. Don't recall ever seeing him pass-block much at all nor catch a whole lot of passes. Can't call him an every-down back when he can't/hasn't done things like that in college.

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Lol you care to give me an in depth breakdown of AP, Eric Dickerson, and Bo Jacksons college teams so we can get an apt comparison on them carrying their teams singlehandedly.

 

 

I'm not going to waste time going clear back to the 1980's to dig up old stats. What I will say is that Bo Jackson was part of a team which went 11-1 and had 7 players from that team alone, who went on to have long term NFL careers. That's hardly carrying a team. He definitely had plenty of talent around him. As for Peterson, during his time in college the Sooners had 20 players drafted to the NFL. Eleven of who were selected in the first 3 rounds. That's hardly a team void of talent. Those guys definitely did NOT carry their teams on their back single handed. They had plenty of help.

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Foreman has flaws, too. Don't recall ever seeing him pass-block much at all nor catch a whole lot of passes. Can't call him an every-down back when he can't/hasn't done things like that in college.

 

 

Look at any scouting report on the kid. He's considered one of the top pass blockers in the NCAA at his position. As for receiving, that's all scheming. If he's not targeted in the passing game, how is he supposed to feature that skill set? There have been a ton of premier rushers in the NFL who were not known for being much of a receiver in college, because they weren't targeted. Once they were given that chance in the pros, they thrived. Right now, that is an unknown part of his game, because he hasn't been given a chance. All I can say, is that his twin brother plays WR for the Longhorns, so his brother has the genes to be a decent receiver. I see no reason why D'Onta wouldn't inherit at least some of that particular skill set.

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Easterling's latest mock had us taking Kamara in the 4th. That would be amazing. Especially since he had us getting Allen, Feeney, and Eddie Jackson in the first 3. Can't think of a better top 4 rounds. 

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Easterling's latest mock had us taking Kamara in the 4th. That would be amazing. Especially since he had us getting Allen, Feeney, and Eddie Jackson in the first 3. Can't think of a better top 4 rounds. 

 

 

I like the first 3 rounds, even though I don't think Strong Safety is that much of a need anymore. I'm not a fan of Kamara though. He's not really a physical rusher who can run between the tackles and I don't see that 2nd gear to break away in the open field. I'd rather take another O-Linemen here.

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I don't care if we have to spend a 1st round pick on a RB, as long as we get someone who turns us around from being a one dimensional offense. If teams know we have a run game and have to prepare as such, the pressure on the passing game to carry the load will be relieved. I think we'd see much more of a balanced, productive offense with a much better ground game. I don't want to take guys like Samuels, who might "contribute". I want to go big and try to draft a star at RB, who opposing teams will truly have to game plan for. As for not being sure if Foreman will break runs in the NFL, the same can be said for Samuels. We just don't know until we see them play on the next level. That can be said for any rookie, at any position. All you can judge them on is past performances and Foreman has consistently broken big runs in college and has 100+ yard rushing games in every contest this past season. That's as consistent as you can get.


Even looking at the long runs, Samuels has a long run of 74 yards, but his next longest run dips clear down to 36 yards in 2016. Foreman has a long run of 74 yards as well, but he also has big runs of 62 yards, 47 yards, 44 yards and 40 yards as well in other games this past season. If you want to go with odds, Foreman seems like more of a sure thing.


Not only do I expect stardom for Foreman, I genuinely believe he is the safest pick in the draft.

Having a good run blocking line is more important than drafting running backs high. Just look at Gurley.


I watched a few of his games today. He's big but not exactly a bruiser, he's kind of fast but doesn't have blazing speed and his feet aint that quick. Reminds me of Blount who plays for the Pats.

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If D'Onta Foreman is so great, then why did Texas sucked the whole time he was there. Pass.

Reach! You're almost there!

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Having a good run blocking line is more important than drafting running backs high. Just look at Gurley.


I watched a few of his games today. He's big but not exactly a bruiser, he's kind of fast but doesn't have blazing speed and his feet aint that quick. Reminds me of Blount who plays for the Pats.

 

 

I agree about the O-Line, that is why I've said repeatedly that I would build the O-Line, along with taking Foreman. The two go hand in hand. 

 

Check out the run toward the end against Oklahoma. That isn't a bruising touchdown run? He moves the pile and in the other rushes, he's running right through arm tackles. 

 

https://youtu.be/3fox9QWzzl8

 

This isn't blazing speed or quick feet? 

https://youtu.be/vvQ26IPi11I

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I agree about the O-Line, that is why I've said repeatedly that I would build the O-Line, along with taking Foreman. The two go hand in hand.


Check out the run toward the end against Oklahoma. That isn't a bruising touchdown run? He moves the pile and in the other rushes, he's running right through arm tackles.

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://youtu.be/3fox9QWzzl8'>https://youtu.be/3fox9QWzzl8</a>


This isn't blazing speed or quick feet?
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://youtu.be/vvQ26IPi11I'>https://youtu.be/vvQ26IPi11I</a>

Not seeing it man. He just doesn't look like a special runner. The last clip is against an awful 0-8 Kansas team, his feet looked slow to me.

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Blazing speed? Watch Cooks 70 yard run against Clemson. That's blazing speed and instant acceleration.

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He's plenty fast enough. Watch him run a 4.49-4.52.


I saw him pulling away from DBs in a few of those clips. Keep in mind he's 250 pounds doing this and hits the hole like nobody's business.


I would prefer Cook, I feel Cook may be the top running back in the league within a few years, but if Foreman is our consolation prize I would be pretty ecstatic.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Would anyone be open to trading down for Foreman? Or trading back into the 1st for him?

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Would anyone be open to trading down for Foreman? Or trading back into the 1st for him?

If we miss out on Cook? Yes.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

If we miss out on Cook? Yes.

Would you rather trade down out of the top five or trade back up into the 1st?

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Would anyone be open to trading down for Foreman? Or trading back into the 1st for him?

I probably wouldnt trade back into the first for him cause we need picks for the oline since were almost certainly not using pick 3 on a lineman. So either trade down and take him if hes the best available or trade down get a lineman then trade back and take him. Idk whatever is best given the situation.

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I probably wouldnt trade back into the first for him cause we need picks for the oline since were almost certainly not using pick 3 on a lineman. So either trade down and take him if hes the best available or trade down get a lineman then trade back and take him. Idk whatever is best given the situation.

I'm really, really hoping for a couple of cap casualties of O-Linemen.

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Blazing speed? Watch Cooks 70 yard run against Clemson. That's blazing speed and instant acceleration.

 

 

I don't want a scumbag like him on my team. 

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Would anyone be open to trading down for Foreman? Or trading back into the 1st for him?

 

Sounds great to me, although I fully believe he will be a top 10 pick by the time the draft rolls around. 

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Would you rather trade down out of the top five or trade back up into the 1st?

I'm all for stockpiling picks. I think Dalvin is a top 5 talent though. If he's there I'm taking him. If not, I may try to trade back into the teens and grab Foreman. Imagine getting a handful of mid rounders that could be used to beef up the O-Line and still getting your RB.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."