I figured Manuel would be overdrafted because he was the 2nd best QB in a weak class. Murray would have been been in the Geno/Manuel territory and would have been overdrafted due to a weak class. I don't see what point you were trying to make.

 

What round did you think he was going to go in?  For some reason I have a hard time believing you thought he was going to be a first round pick. 

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Based on what? Almost every quarterback was drafted well after they were expected to go.

 

Based on that none of the 2014 QBs were worth a 1st round pick. It would have been a much better idea for the Bills to hold off and grab a 2014 QB.

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What round did you think he was going to go in?  For some reason I have a hard time believing you thought he was going to be a first round pick. 

 

I didn't. I don't think Manuel is worth a 1st round pick. I don't think Murray is worth a first round pick, either. Manuel was on of the best QBs in the class, though, so it doesn't surprise me that he went early. Likewise, I think Murray would have been drafted too high last year based on a weak class. Is that too hard to comprehend?

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I didn't. I don't think Manuel is worth a 1st round pick. I don't think Murray is worth a first round pick, either. Manuel was on of the best QBs in the class, though, so it doesn't surprise me that he went early. Likewise, I think Murray would have been drafted too high last year based on a weak class. Is that too hard to comprehend?

 

No it's not.  I think it is funny because you call people out on wanting Geno in the first round, but yet you didn't think EJ was first round worthy and he went in the first round.  Can't have both ways there guy. 

 

Hypocrite much?  I think so. 

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In fact, you basically made my point. Manuel was over drafted because of weak class, much like Murray would have been.

 

Manuel has the measurables. Murray does not.

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No it's not.  I think it is funny because you call people out on wanting Geno in the first round, but yet you didn't think EJ was first round worthy and he went in the first round.  Can't have both ways there guy. 

 

Hypocrite much?  I think so. 

 

Right. I was wrong about Manuel's draft value. The difference is, I will admit to that. Geno fans won't admit they were wrong about Geno's draft value.

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Right. I was wrong about Manuel's draft value. The difference is, I will admit to that. Geno fans won't admit they were wrong about Geno's draft value.

 

Oh that's it.  I have seen bleedingteal admit it at least 20 times.  To you more than once.  Guess you missed that one. 

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Murray said previously he received a “second- or third-round grade” from the NFL’s draft advisory board. He said he discussed his situation with former NFL coach Tony Dungy, former NFL quarterback Archie Manning, former UGA quarterbacks David Greene and D.J. Shockley, among others.


http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/201...t-georgia/

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Oh that's it. I have seen bleedingteal admit it at least 20 times. To you more than once. Guess you missed that one.

It's unbelievable isn't it? Thank you.

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Oh that's it.  I have seen bleedingteal admit it at least 20 times.  To you more than once.  Guess you missed that one. 

 

I've commended bleedingteal for admitting it. Go check the Geno thread and check out how many others admit it.

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No chance in hell he would get drafted in round 1 last year. 

 

You think Geno was worth the #2 overall, but don't think Murray could have been looked at as a late 1st rounder? Ok.

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Again, what is your point? If he thought Geno Smith could have been drafted in the 1st round last year, I don't think it is fair for him to say "no chance in hell Murray would get drafted in round 1 last year".

 

It was a weak crop, one of the top 3 QBs in a class always has the potential to go in the 1st round. "No chance in hell" is a bit much.

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Murray said previously he received a “second- or third-round grade” from the NFL’s draft advisory board. He said he discussed his situation with former NFL coach Tony Dungy, former NFL quarterback Archie Manning, former UGA quarterbacks David Greene and D.J. Shockley, among others.

http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/201...t-georgia/

If that is the case then he probably should have left school last year. I don't think many scouts today think he is worthy of a 2nd round grade.

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Geno and Manuel were FAR superior prospects than Murray. They aren't even in the same conversation. 

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To be fair, his team was absolutely riddled with injuries. That being said, he is not one of the top 5 QBs in the class. He still would have went in the 1st round last year, IMO, though.

umm no he wound not have gone in the 1st round, all the QBs dropped last year and most of them had a higher grade then him, he had like 3th round grade last year thats why he went back to school.

 

 

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I figured Manuel would be overdrafted because he was the 2nd best QB in a weak class. Murray would have been been in the Geno/Manuel territory and would have been overdrafted due to a weak class. I don't see what point you were trying to make.

Manuel was overdrafted because he is 6'4 230 lbs runs a 4.5 and has super high character, Aaron Murray is like 6'1 208 lbs prob runs a 4.9 lol no team is gonna overdraft him 
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Manuel wasn't overdrafted or reach or whatever you might call it. Remember that the Bills traded down to get him at a later spot. The Bills got trade value out of their original pick plus they got a QB they can groom.

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Aaron Murray is sorry compared to Hundley, Mariota, or Bridgewater.

 

If I had to rank the top 5 QB prospects, they would be:

 

1. Bridgewater

2. Mariota

3. Hundley

4. Mettenberger

5. Boyd

 

And further..

 

6. Manzeil

7. Murray.

 

He's not good just because he plays in the SEC.

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I think Bridgewater at 3 is better value than Mack at 3, yes.

 

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I felt like this past Saturday's game was just too much for Murray to overcome. His Defense was getting torched, his O-line went through four different OT's, he was throwing to Freshmen and Scout team players, and he just couldn't get enough done.

 

I'm a fan of Murray in that I think he will be a productive player in the NFL. Maybe not to the level of what Bridgewater or Mariota will be, but he has skills that can help him be competitive.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

I felt like this past Saturday's game was just too much for Murray to overcome. His Defense was getting torched, his O-line went through four different OT's, he was throwing to Freshmen and Scout team players, and he just couldn't get enough done.

 

I'm a fan of Murray in that I think he will be a productive player in the NFL. Maybe not to the level of what Bridgewater or Mariota will be, but he has skills that can help him be competitive.

 

He won't even be a starter in the NFL. Barring horrendous injury.

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Murray getting bailed out this game. Should have had an INT twice now.

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