I have a feeling Williams is already being shown tape of Travis Kelce.

I do think he'll start if physically able. If he's abused early on we'll probably see Goode or Alexander take over at will.

Just stick Jalen on Kelce and AJ and some safety help on Tyreek. That's less of a matchup nightmare than a rookie linebacker on Kelce. Are you listening Wash? Capers is probably telling you the same thing. He was brought in to talk you out of losing strategies.

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I have a feeling Williams is already being shown tape of Travis Kelce.

I do think he'll start if physically able. If he's abused early on we'll probably see Goode or Alexander take over at will.

Just stick Jalen on Kelce and AJ and some safety help on Tyreek. That's less of a matchup nightmare than a rookie linebacker on Kelce. Are you listening Wash? Capers is probably telling you the same thing. He was brought in to talk you out of losing strategies.

I would really like to see Josh Allen drop back in coverage at times with Kelce in passing situations. They've been limiting that with Allen during this preseason but he's just as good in coverage.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Damn it!  I keep putting Wilson at SS for whatever reason.

I need to write 100 sentences "Wilson is a FS NOT a SS."

Did I miss something?

While last year Wilson was the FS and Harrison was the SS, I thought it was settled that they switched positions for this season. 

Yea you must have missed something because there was never talk about them switching positions. 

The only talk was that the team felt comfortable in having them both drop deep, or play in the box if needed and that they might show some of those looks during the season.

Harrison is the SS and Wilson is the FS.

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Damn it!  I keep putting Wilson at SS for whatever reason.

I need to write 100 sentences "Wilson is a FS NOT a SS."

Did I miss something?

While last year Wilson was the FS and Harrison was the SS, I thought it was settled that they switched positions for this season. 

https://www.jaguars.com/team/depth-chart

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I have serious questions about people like Philip Heilman calling him a "critical part of the defense."

It's more likely than not he's well below average as a starter even if he has nice splash plays and tackle stats. Just look at early Telvin seasons

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Well he is fast like Telvin so if he can fly around and make some nice plays here and there that would be very good imo.

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I have serious questions about people like Philip Heilman calling him a "critical part of the defense."

It's more likely than not he's well below average as a starter even if he has nice splash plays and tackle stats. Just look at early Telvin seasons

So even if your second statement is true it doesn't mean that the first isn't.

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I have serious questions about people like Philip Heilman calling him a "critical part of the defense."

It's more likely than not he's well below average as a starter even if he has nice splash plays and tackle stats. Just look at early Telvin seasons

So even if your second statement is true it doesn't mean that the first isn't.

Expecting a mid round rookie from Murray State to be a critical part of a top tier defense shouldn't be anyone's expectations for what Quincy will be this year. 

Even if he plays average he won't be in the top 6 most important players on the defense.

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Well he is fast like Telvin so if he can fly around and make some nice plays here and there that would be very good imo.

Yes style wise I think he'll look like early career Telvin. Lots of speed and splash plays but also lots of mental errors, poor coverage and bad angles

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So even if your second statement is true it doesn't mean that the first isn't.

Expecting a mid round rookie from Murray State to be a critical part of a top tier defense shouldn't be anyone's expectations for what Quincy will be this year. 

Even if he plays average he won't be in the top 6 most important players on the defense.

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Well he is fast like Telvin so if he can fly around and make some nice plays here and there that would be very good imo.

Yes style wise I think he'll look like early career Telvin. Lots of speed and splash plays but also lots of mental errors, poor coverage and bad angles

Meh, football is football.

Taven Bryan is no better because he played at Florida and was a 1st round pick.

In fact, at their respective positions, I'd say Quincy Williams is already better than Taven Bryan ever will be.

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So even if your second statement is true it doesn't mean that the first isn't.

Expecting a mid round rookie from Murray State to be a critical part of a top tier defense shouldn't be anyone's expectations for what Quincy will be this year. 

Even if he plays average he won't be in the top 6 most important players on the defense.

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Well he is fast like Telvin so if he can fly around and make some nice plays here and there that would be very good imo. says 

Yes style wise I think he'll look like early career Telvin. Lots of speed and splash plays but also lots of mental errors, poor coverage and bad angles

You can twist it however you want.  He can still be critical part of the defense without being one of the top performers.  He can still be a critical part by just playing decent as a rookie and not totally [BLEEP] up...thereby creating a hole at his position.

On a side note, I'm having trouble finding anywhere that Heilman says he is a critical part of the defense...but I could be missing it.

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Expecting a mid round rookie from Murray State to be a critical part of a top tier defense shouldn't be anyone's expectations for what Quincy will be this year. 

Even if he plays average he won't be in the top 6 most important players on the defense.

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Yes style wise I think he'll look like early career Telvin. Lots of speed and splash plays but also lots of mental errors, poor coverage and bad angles

You can twist it however you want.  He can still be critical part of the defense without being one of the top performers.  He can still be a critical part by just playing decent as a rookie and not totally [BLEEP] up...thereby creating a hole at his position.

On a side note, I'm having trouble finding anywhere that Heilman says he is a critical part of the defense...but I could be missing it.

How many "critical" parts of the defense do we have then? 11? 

If you want to change the meaning of the word "critical" to "solid" well then yeah being a solid piece of the defense is in his realm of possibility, but like most rookies it's more likely they're below average out of the gate. (And yes he can be below average and still solid depending on play) 

On his twitter timeline.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...31552?s=20

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Expecting a mid round rookie from Murray State to be a critical part of a top tier defense shouldn't be anyone's expectations for what Quincy will be this year. 

Even if he plays average he won't be in the top 6 most important players on the defense.

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Yes style wise I think he'll look like early career Telvin. Lots of speed and splash plays but also lots of mental errors, poor coverage and bad angles

Meh, football is football.

Taven Bryan is no better because he played at Florida and was a 1st round pick.

In fact, at their respective positions, I'd say Quincy Williams is already better than Taven Bryan ever will be.

You missed the point but that's par for the course from this account

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You can twist it however you want.  He can still be critical part of the defense without being one of the top performers.  He can still be a critical part by just playing decent as a rookie and not totally [BLEEP] up...thereby creating a hole at his position.

On a side note, I'm having trouble finding anywhere that Heilman says he is a critical part of the defense...but I could be missing it.

How many "critical" parts of the defense do we have then? 11? 

If you want to change the meaning of the word "critical" to "solid" well then yeah being a solid piece of the defense is in his realm of possibility, but like most rookies it's more likely they're below average out of the gate. (And yes he can be below average and still solid depending on play) 

On his twitter timeline.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...31552?s=20

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Meh, football is football.

Taven Bryan is no better because he played at Florida and was a 1st round pick.

In fact, at their respective positions, I'd say Quincy Williams is already better than Taven Bryan ever will be.

You missed the point but that's par for the course from this account

No, I didn't. You said a mid round pick from Murray state as though that means he is guaranteed to be lower than average starter.

That makes zero sense as we haven't even seen the kid play.

And that's par for the course from you - the condescension you display is definitely not warranted by your past record.

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How many "critical" parts of the defense do we have then? 11? 

If you want to change the meaning of the word "critical" to "solid" well then yeah being a solid piece of the defense is in his realm of possibility, but like most rookies it's more likely they're below average out of the gate. (And yes he can be below average and still solid depending on play) 

On his twitter timeline.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...31552?s=20

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You missed the point but that's par for the course from this account

No, I didn't. You said a mid round pick from Murray state as though that means he is guaranteed to be lower than average starter.

That makes zero sense as we haven't even seen the kid play.

And that's par for the course from you - the condescension you display is definitely not warranted by your past record.

No, him being a rookie is why the expectation should be lower. Him being a small schooler just means the adjustment is tougher. I expected Taven to be bad as a rookie too. 

It makes even less sense to call a kid we haven't watched play any snaps "a critical part of the defense" 

Also please fill me in my past record.

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You can twist it however you want.  He can still be critical part of the defense without being one of the top performers.  He can still be a critical part by just playing decent as a rookie and not totally [BLEEP] up...thereby creating a hole at his position.

On a side note, I'm having trouble finding anywhere that Heilman says he is a critical part of the defense...but I could be missing it.

How many "critical" parts of the defense do we have then? 11?

If you want to change the meaning of the word "critical" to "solid" well then yeah being a solid piece of the defense is in his realm of possibility, but like most rookies it's more likely they're below average out of the gate. (And yes he can be below average and still solid depending on play) 

On his twitter timeline.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...31552?s=20

Yes.

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No, I didn't. You said a mid round pick from Murray state as though that means he is guaranteed to be lower than average starter.

That makes zero sense as we haven't even seen the kid play.

And that's par for the course from you - the condescension you display is definitely not warranted by your past record.

No, him being a rookie is why the expectation should be lower. Him being a small schooler just means the adjustment is tougher. I expected Taven to be bad as a rookie too. 

It makes even less sense to call a kid we haven't watched play any snaps "a critical part of the defense" 

Also please fill me in my past record.

Honestly, because he's a "kid we haven't watched play any snaps", I think that makes him even more of a critical part of the defense.  We know (within reason) what we're going to get from Calais, Yannick, Jalen, Bouye, Myles, Dareus, Jones and Allen (hopefully), and even to a lesser degree Harrison and Wilson.  Because we haven't seem Williams take any snaps - even in preseason - it makes his performance that much more important, and critical.

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How many "critical" parts of the defense do we have then? 11?

If you want to change the meaning of the word "critical" to "solid" well then yeah being a solid piece of the defense is in his realm of possibility, but like most rookies it's more likely they're below average out of the gate. (And yes he can be below average and still solid depending on play) 

On his twitter timeline.

https://twitter.com/phillip_heilman/stat...31552?s=20

Yes.

Ok, so every player on the starting offense and defense is "critical". So how would we rank them based on terms of criticalness? Lol

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No, him being a rookie is why the expectation should be lower. Him being a small schooler just means the adjustment is tougher. I expected Taven to be bad as a rookie too. 

It makes even less sense to call a kid we haven't watched play any snaps "a critical part of the defense" 

Also please fill me in my past record.

Honestly, because he's a "kid we haven't watched play any snaps", I think that makes him even more of a critical part of the defense.  We know (within reason) what we're going to get from Calais, Yannick, Jalen, Bouye, Myles, Dareus, Jones and Allen (hopefully), and even to a lesser degree Harrison and Wilson.  Because we haven't seem Williams take any snaps - even in preseason - it makes his performance that much more important, and critical.

Maybe there's a difference in how people use the word critical? I'd consider critical to mean of utmost importance and if you don't have them there will be a big drop off. 

If Quincy is bad or average I don't think it moves the needle for our defense much at all Vs what the alternative is.

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Who would be put in his place? Leon Jacobs? Meh

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No pain, no gain.

Who would be put in his place? Leon Jacobs? Meh

Najee Goode and DJ Alexander would bothplay WLB before Jacobs would. 
Jacobs is a SAM backer.

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You guys are being very critical.

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