Marrone will be the coach for another year or 2. Maybe Coughlin was the problem? Idk

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Marrone will be the coach for another year or 2. Maybe Coughlin was the problem? Idk

Attendance will drop a lot if that happens.

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Jaguars lease runs through 2029 (it's the most ironclad of contracts too). The Jags cannot & will not move before then.

Khan could move the team TODAY if he wanted to.

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The NFL is not ready for a full time team in London logistic wise. We have been the topic for moving to London forever and yet still here. There is nothing to be lost by admitting the team is moving maybe some attendance but other than that no reason to lie about it. Khan has never even hinted at moving. He has steadfastly said NO we are not moving so many times he grew tired of talking about it. Why people are so quick to jump on conspiracy theories is beyond me. How many times can Khan say hes not moving the team before people start believing him? Good lord hes said it every way possible and yet here we are again just like the Jags are moving to LA [BLEEP]. The travel back and forth would be horrendous even if they went in 3 or 4 week stretches...3 or 4 weeks living in motels in the US then back to Lomdon for 3 or 4 weeks probably living in hotels too would have any team all kinds of pissed and low morale...Stop looking at click bait

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From Vic’s site yesterday:

Vic, what prompted Art Modell to move the Browns from Cleveland?

Art wanted the city to build him a new stadium. Instead, they built the Indians a new ballpark, which angered Art, so the city gave Art a sweetheart deal on old Cleveland Stadium. It sold it to him for a mere $100,000. Art chortled mightily, bragging about all the money he'd make from bringing rock concerts to the stadium he now owned. Then he found out the poles holding the place up had rusted to the thickness of a pencil and the stadium was slowly sinking into Lake Erie. Behind closed doors in city hall, they were probably laughing at Art for having bought the old rust bucket and finding out he was going to have to spend millions just to keep it from being condemned. Now Art was really angry. Then he found out the city was spending millions to build a rock and roll hall of fame right next to the rust bucket he owned, and that's when Art picked up the phone and called Baltimore.

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From Vic’s site yesterday:

Vic, what prompted Art Modell to move the Browns from Cleveland?

Art wanted the city to build him a new stadium. Instead, they built the Indians a new ballpark, which angered Art, so the city gave Art a sweetheart deal on old Cleveland Stadium. It sold it to him for a mere $100,000. Art chortled mightily, bragging about all the money he'd make from bringing rock concerts to the stadium he now owned. Then he found out the poles holding the place up had rusted to the thickness of a pencil and the stadium was slowly sinking into Lake Erie. Behind closed doors in city hall, they were probably laughing at Art for having bought the old rust bucket and finding out he was going to have to spend millions just to keep it from being condemned. Now Art was really angry. Then he found out the city was spending millions to build a rock and roll hall of fame right next to the rust bucket he owned, and that's when Art picked up the phone and called Baltimore.

Wow the Cleveland City Hall is a pretty big pile of [BLEEP] for that… I don’t see us being that bad to khan.

I honestly don’t blame art at all for moving the team.

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From Vic’s site yesterday:

Vic, what prompted Art Modell to move the Browns from Cleveland?

Art wanted the city to build him a new stadium. Instead, they built the Indians a new ballpark, which angered Art, so the city gave Art a sweetheart deal on old Cleveland Stadium. It sold it to him for a mere $100,000. Art chortled mightily, bragging about all the money he'd make from bringing rock concerts to the stadium he now owned. Then he found out the poles holding the place up had rusted to the thickness of a pencil and the stadium was slowly sinking into Lake Erie. Behind closed doors in city hall, they were probably laughing at Art for having bought the old rust bucket and finding out he was going to have to spend millions just to keep it from being condemned. Now Art was really angry. Then he found out the city was spending millions to build a rock and roll hall of fame right next to the rust bucket he owned, and that's when Art picked up the phone and called Baltimore.

Wow the Cleveland City Hall is a pretty big pile of [BLEEP] for that… I don’t see us being that bad to khan.

I honestly don’t blame art at all for moving the team.

It's an interesting side to the story I've never heard before. 

Jacksonville City Hall is full of small-minded morons, but even they know better than to treat Khan like that.

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Wow the Cleveland City Hall is a pretty big pile of [BLEEP] for that… I don’t see us being that bad to khan.

I honestly don’t blame art at all for moving the team.

It's an interesting side to the story I've never heard before. 

Jacksonville City Hall is full of small-minded morons, but even they know better than to treat Khan like that.

One thing to note is that Cleveland city council offered to include a new stadium for the Browns in the project that eventually built new stadiums for the Indians and the Cavaliers. Modell turned them down.

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Khan continues to invest in stadium improvements and fan accommodations.  It is rumoured the 2020 improvements will include replacement turf for the dog park, the introduction of Mr. Pibb products at the concessions and new light bulbs in all the restrooms.

This was an excellent comment. I feel it summarizes the major arguments aginst moving to London succinctly and how unlikely we are to go. How could the jaguars leave jacksonville after Mr. Pibb come to concessions?

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Jaguars lease runs through 2029 (it's the most ironclad of contracts too). The Jags cannot & will not move before then.

Its a 100 million penatly. LA Rams paid 500 million to leave. I wouldn't call 100 'ironclad' maybe aluminum foil clad, similar to the hats people who don't think the Jags could ever move wear.

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Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster

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Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

It's also possible that Shad Khan is not a very competitive person.  NFL football at its core is a competition between owners, and he doesn't seem as unhappy as he ought to be that he has the worst team in the league, and is therefore in last place in the competition between owners.  Maybe he's happy just owning a team, and that's it.  He'd rather go sell bumpers and leave the team to flounder.

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It's also possible that Shad Khan is not a very competitive person.  NFL football at its core is a competition between owners, and he doesn't seem as unhappy as he ought to be that he has the worst team in the league, and is therefore in last place in the competition between owners.  Maybe he's happy just owning a team, and that's it.  He'd rather go sell bumpers and leave the team to flounder.

The teams standings aren't as relevant to him. As long as it continues to provide decent ROI he's happy. That is his main concern.

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It's also possible that Shad Khan is not a very competitive person.  NFL football at its core is a competition between owners, and he doesn't seem as unhappy as he ought to be that he has the worst team in the league, and is therefore in last place in the competition between owners.  Maybe he's happy just owning a team, and that's it.  He'd rather go sell bumpers and leave the team to flounder.

The teams standings aren't as relevant to him. As long as it continues to provide decent ROI he's happy. That is his main concern.

Maybe I see it a tad differently, but I think they care and want to succeed.  

That ROI you point out is evidently going to happen regardless, and can only get better when we are good (does any team personify the underdog more than us?  I’d say there is as big an opportunity for the casual fan pulling for the underdog with this team than most other teams).  

That and I see the joy him and his fam have when we win.   He surely was stoked when Leonard dropped the hammer with the 90 yarder against Pitt.  

I think people forget these guys don’t claim to be football geniuses or something.  He could have easily been far less involved and engaged then he has been.   I don’t recall the owner in Major League investing in the team and the facilities, for what it’s worth.

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Khan is trying to put together a winner. Look at our salary cap figures and you will see that. We should have made the Super Bowl under his watch if not for corrupt officiating. I think we will be signing more free agents this year (after substantial cuts of aging players) and will rebound faster than people think.

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Maybe Shad understands that the Jags will never win a Super Bowl because the NFL will never allow the Jags to APPEAR in a Super Bowl because of the massive ratings hit and lowered gambling action. So he goes along with the scheme, pocketing a few hundred million a year while the team is worth another few hundred million a year. We know the NFL wants to move a team to London. They would need a compliant owner, a team with minimal tradition, a dwindling fanbase, etc. We're right in that wheelhouse.

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Maybe Shad understands that the Jags will never win a Super Bowl because the NFL will never allow the Jags to APPEAR in a Super Bowl because of the massive ratings hit and lowered gambling action.  So he goes along with the scheme, pocketing a few hundred million a year while the team is worth another few hundred million a year.  We know the NFL wants to move a team to London.  They would need a compliant owner, a team with minimal tradition, a dwindling fanbase, etc.  We're right in that wheelhouse.

People need to put this London team talk to rest. It. Will. Never. Happen. The logistics and travel alone preclude the possibility. The most that will happen is the Jaguars playing back to back next season. If the NFL can get more than one team to participate in that scheme, the appetite for NFL football in Europe will be sated. It will never fall to one team full time.

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I see some folks stocked up on tin foil for their Christmas turkey roasting.

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Maybe Shad understands that the Jags will never win a Super Bowl because the NFL will never allow the Jags to APPEAR in a Super Bowl because of the massive ratings hit and lowered gambling action.  So he goes along with the scheme, pocketing a few hundred million a year while the team is worth another few hundred million a year.  We know the NFL wants to move a team to London.  They would need a compliant owner, a team with minimal tradition, a dwindling fanbase, etc.  We're right in that wheelhouse.

People need to put this London team talk to rest. It. Will. Never. Happen. The logistics and travel alone preclude the possibility. The most that will happen is the Jaguars playing back to back next season. If the NFL can get more than one team to participate in that scheme, the appetite for NFL football in Europe will be sated. It will never fall to one team full time.

I don't agree. We all know how far the NFL is willing to go in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and putting a team in London is definitely something they'd do if they thought it would increase revenue, logistics be damned. And there are already plenty of solutions being offered to deal with the logistical problem. Some poor city is eventually going to lose its team.

But I don't think it's going to be Jacksonville. Not with the way Khan has been investing in the stadium and the city.

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Khan is trying to put together a winner. Look at our salary cap figures and you will see that. We should have made the Super Bowl under his watch if not for corrupt officiating. I think we will be signing more free agents this year (after substantial cuts of aging players) and will rebound faster than people think.

I hope not.  It's rare, if not impossible, to buy your way to a championship.  The best teams develop a roster and brings in pieces.

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There are articles out there that talk about the need for a "home base" in US to process the visas and conduct try outs. You would be processing work visas more than calling agents for the bottom of the roster types. Most likely they would package up a home and way or 2 home games and an away game for the Jaguars so they could park over there for the month of October. That would move closer to them being the preferred London team.

Honestly the league wants a lot of things but the structure of football and scheduling is more limiting then the other sports.

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The Khan Years

Patience, Persistence, and Piss Poor General Managers.

There are articles out there that talk about the need for a "home base" in US to process the visas and conduct try outs.  You would be processing work visas more than calling agents for the bottom of the roster types.  Most likely they would package up a home and way or 2 home games and an away game for the Jaguars so they could park over there for the month of October.  That would move closer to them being the preferred London team.

Honestly the league wants a lot of things but the structure of football and scheduling is more limiting then the other sports.

If they want to spread the NFL to Europe they need the sport to take foot in high schools, colleges... At some point you need “home’ athletes and not just Americans running around playing football in your city.

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