So would you call a cop that decides to ignore the "protect and serve" aspect of his or her job a "pig"?

 

I think I would...

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So would you call a cop that decides to ignore the "protect and serve" aspect of his or her job a "pig"?

 

I think I would...

 

You and your liberal ilk call all cops pigs no matter what.

 

Their "job" is not to provide security at an event.  They are commonly hired while off duty because of the visual presence that they provide and the fact that the expense is lesser than the event promoter would have to pay for armed security.

 

As I stated above.  If something happened that would require law enforcement, then the officers on duty would respond... after you know, enforcing the "protect and serve" part of their duties to the community.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

No we don't. That's a straw man argument. And a very weak one at that!!


If a police officer decides to ignore his duties because one person is protesting the national anthem... I'd call that person a pig.


If the fat back fits... Butcher and fry it.

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Personally I think Kap could find a better way to bring attention to something he wants to. That said, it's his constitutional right to protest peacefully however he wants and however rude or disgraceful people may find it. 

 

I am sure some would refuse, should that actually be part of their tax payer funded jobs, but as is the case where most cops are not bad I am sure most would do the job anyways since protecting and serving is a much better way to counter protest this type of thing then just not doing it. However, as others have stated these cops usually take stadium security gigs as side jobs for extra cash and if they don't want to out of their own form of protest than that is just as much their right as it his to sit, kneel hop around whatever. As is the team's right to not want to deal with a circus, should that be the case.  

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You and your liberal ilk call all cops pigs no matter what.

 

Their "job" is not to provide security at an event.  They are commonly hired while off duty because of the visual presence that they provide and the fact that the expense is lesser than the event promoter would have to pay for armed security.

 

As I stated above.  If something happened that would require law enforcement, then the officers on duty would respond... after you know, enforcing the "protect and serve" part of their duties to the community.

It's really not true though. Some sure but definitely now all as you are implying above. Wanting to see more restraint, and less police violence of all kinds does not equal calling all cops pigs no matter what. Honestly I really despise name calling general. It's really worse when it's use to try and target whole groups of people. 

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No we don't. That's a straw man argument. And a very weak one at that!!

If a police officer decides to ignore his duties because one person is protesting the national anthem... I'd call that person a pig.

If the fat back fits... Butcher and fry it.

What about a police officer that is not on official duty as a police officer, but has been hired for added security? What do you call someone like that?



And I can't think of a time that I've ever called the police "pigs". Do people really talk like its still the 60's?

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

No we don't. That's a straw man argument. And a very weak one at that!!


If a police officer decides to ignore his duties because one person is protesting the national anthem... I'd call that person a pig.


If the fat back fits... Butcher and fry it.

 

I'll type this slowly so maybe you will understand.  A police officer's duty does not include providing security during his/her off time at an event.  I would assume that somebody of your ilk would assume that a police officer refusing to provide security in his/her off time is ignoring their duty.

 

If a police officer elects to perform security at a football game, a concert or even at a local bar in their off time, they certainly are entitled to do so.  That is a voluntary job, not part of their duty.  They are not paid by their employer (State, County, City) for doing such work.

 

If anything happens at an event requiring law enforcement, then the officers on duty will respond.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Wow what a bunch of snowflakes those police officers are. Sick of this PC world.

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What about a police officer that is not on official duty as a police officer, but has been hired for added security? What do you call someone like that?



And I can't think of a time that I've ever called the police "pigs". Do people really talk like its still the 60's?

The 90s too!!!


I think it's different. If you didn't have to work.


But you don't find it lacking in patriotism and sense of duty to walk out of protecting the public because a few people are exercising their rights?


You don't find that even the slightest bit lame?

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If the "off duty" cops are not city employees, who is paying them?

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If the "off duty" cops are not city employees, who is paying them?

 

Typically bars and clubs will pay off duty police officers to provide security.  It's the same at any sporting event.  The city/county/state doesn't provide officers for "security" paid out of tax payer money.  The owners of the properties or the people holding the events will typically hire off-duty police officers to provide security.  It has a couple of advantages.  It puts a few extra dollars in the police officer(s) pocket and provides a lesser cost security for the event.

 

Police officers working at a game aren't "assigned" there and are not working for the government that employs them at that point.  They are working as "freelancers" or "contract employees".  In the case of this thread, the officers could refuse to take the job and force the employers to hire outside security.  If said security is going to be armed security, then it's going to cost them more.

 

It has nothing to do with police "not doing their jobs".  As I said multiple times, if a law enforcement issue comes up, then officers on duty will respond.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

The 90s too!!!

I think it's different. If you didn't have to work.

But you don't find it lacking in patriotism and sense of duty to walk out of protecting the public because a few people are exercising their rights?

You don't find that even the slightest bit lame?

Nope, not the slightest. They aren't there in their official capacity, they are free to protest, just like everyone else in the country can. Do you think only certain people should be allowed to exercise their rights?

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

If the "off duty" cops are not city employees, who is paying them?

Private companies pay off duty cops for security and traffic control all the time. It's why AJ Cann and The Joke are listed at "Guard", because they work down at the jail for their day jobs. Linder used to be in on it too, but he moved to Center so he's not eligible anymore.

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Typically bars and clubs will pay off duty police officers to provide security.  It's the same at any sporting event.  The city/county/state doesn't provide officers for "security" paid out of tax payer money.  The owners of the properties or the people holding the events will typically hire off-duty police officers to provide security.  It has a couple of advantages.  It puts a few extra dollars in the police officer(s) pocket and provides a lesser cost security for the event.

 

Police officers working at a game aren't "assigned" there and are not working for the government that employs them at that point.  They are working as "freelancers" or "contract employees".  In the case of this thread, the officers could refuse to take the job and force the employers to hire outside security.  If said security is going to be armed security, then it's going to cost them more.

 

It has nothing to do with police "not doing their jobs".  As I said multiple times, if a law enforcement issue comes up, then officers on duty will respond.

an off duty officer can arrest people just as an on duty officer can...It's kind of strange how they call them "off duty" but then when people ask why the police officers get to drive their police cars home, the police always respond with, " Police officers are on duty 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year". There was recently a big fuss about Beyonce singing an anti police song after getting a police escort to her concert... 

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an off duty officer can arrest people just as an on duty officer can...It's kind of strange how they call them "off duty" but then when people ask why the police officers get to drive their police cars home, the police always respond with, " Police officers are on duty 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year". There was recently a big fuss about Beyonce singing an anti police song after getting a police escort to her concert...

They might always be "on duty", but they are not required to actively patrol when they are off the clock.

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

Who cares! Dial up a local security company and move on already. Problem solved. #makingdeals #problemsolvernotaproblemlister

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I always thought off-duty means the officer is not "on the clock" as we say about regular jobs.

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Nope, not the slightest. They aren't there in their official capacity, they are free to protest, just like everyone else in the country can. Do you think only certain people should be allowed to exercise their rights?

 

Couple assumptions:  If the game is part of your assigned beat, boycotting is is basically saying that you are not going to do your job of pretecting and serving.  And it makes you a worthless cop that has no sense of the Constitution.  Thus a pig.

 

If, on the other hand, working the 49ers game is on a voluntary basis and the cops choose not to volunteer for overtime.. meh...  Whatever.  That's up to you.  I still think it's lame.  But it's your time.  

 

That's fair right?  I'm sure you'll disagree.  But I think if you are required to work the beat as part of your assigned duties, and you decide that you are gonna boycott it because one person or even a minority of people within a venue is exercising thier constitutional rights, you were not a very good cop to begin with.  

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It's a voluntary security detail.. So let's call them all pigs and such and continue to be good little liberal [BLEEP] who refuse to google facts..

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I always thought off-duty means the officer is not "on the clock" as we say about regular jobs.

 

Off duty is a misnomer, they're "moonlighting"

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