Carr is pretty good, but anyone that's watched the Raiders play understands he's doing less with more. Just look at the NFL highlight videos for each of them. On only one of Carr's top plays does he face any pressure. On Bortles' he faces big pressure on almost every highlight play. The videos really say it all.

Bortles: https://youtu.be/iGSJVgnIHRA

Carr: https://youtu.be/Y0gly5FmyuU

 

 

Being under slightly more pressure doesn't make Bortles the better qb. Look at the passes themselves. It's ironic that Carr's first pass in the clip has a little wobble because you won't see that in any other. He's throwing some beautiful strikes in these clips, and notice the ball placement how they fall in the receiver's hands in stride. I'm excited to watch Bortles, but it's just not the same. In virtually every clip you see the WR having to adjust to make the catch whether it's reaching, stopping short, diving, etc, etc, but rarely do you see that catch where the WR never has to break stride. ARob and Hurns deserve a ton of credit for Bortles' stats, and I'm not suggesting that Amari doesn't, but Amari doesn't have to be quite the acrobat to make every catch.

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Being under slightly more pressure doesn't make Bortles the better qb. Look at the passes themselves. It's ironic that Carr's first pass in the clip has a little wobble because you won't see that in any other. He's throwing some beautiful strikes in these clips, and notice the ball placement how they fall in the receiver's hands in stride. I'm excited to watch Bortles, but it's just not the same. In virtually every clip you see the WR having to adjust to make the catch whether it's reaching, stopping short, diving, etc, etc, but rarely do you see that catch where the WR never has to break stride. ARob and Hurns deserve a ton of credit for Bortles' stats, and I'm not suggesting that Amari doesn't, but Amari doesn't have to be quite the acrobat to make every catch.

 


You can make the same argument that, with a clean pocket and little pressure, Blake might be throwing passes like that as well though. It's really a toss up

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

You can make the same argument that, with a clean pocket and little pressure, Blake might be throwing passes like that as well though. It's really a toss up

 

 

No, it's not a matter of pressure. Blake just doesn't throw that perfect pass you only see from the likes of Marino and Manning, but that just doesn't seem to matter ith him. Blake makes it happen. I'm just saying that Carr's passes actually wow me at times, and with Blake it's more about the WRs doing the wowing.

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The reason I say Blake is better is longevity, as I've mentioned many times before.. Blake will be on the field for more plays than any other QB during his career. They drafted a tank with an arm and a brain. Carr has the arm and brain, without the tank.

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The reason I say Blake is better is longevity, as I've mentioned many times before.. Blake will be on the field for more plays than any other QB during his career. They drafted a tank with an arm and a brain. Carr has the arm and brain, without the tank.

 

 

Carr has one of the best pass-protecting OLs in the game though whereas the Jaguars still don't know who's starting at LT or LG.


 

I do hear what you're saying, though. I still see Blake as a young version of Ben Roethlisberger with a little Tony Romo savvy mixed in.


 

 

That said, I see Carr as a young Drew Brees with a little Aaron Rodgers mixed in.

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Carr tosses some good passes, but a little bit of wobble isn't that big of a deal, used to see plenty of it from Manning.


What is a big deal is the disparity in ability of players around Carr compared to Bortles. The Raiders offensive line is pretty good and their defense is better than the jaguars, too. Still Bortles outperformed Carr which says a lot.

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Another quality topic from this guy

His tank of fresh ideas is running low, and that's saying something since he's usually running on vapors anyway.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

For the record, I voted "too early to tell." I'll give Carr the edge for now, but I'm nowhere near deciding the answer.

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Not only that but two of them were in the fourth quarter when the Raiders trailed by less than a touchdown.


I have heard people that Bortles threw his at the worst possible time. But Carr did that as well.

It's shocking right? Both are young qbs drafted only 2 years ago making the same mistakes.


Both are going to be good to great. I just prefer a gunslinger of Bortles.

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Carr has one of the best pass-protecting OLs in the game though whereas the Jaguars still don't know who's starting at LT or LG.


 

I do hear what you're saying, though. I still see Blake as a young version of Ben Roethlisberger with a little Tony Romo savvy mixed in.


 

 

That said, I see Carr as a young Drew Brees with a little Aaron Rodgers mixed in.

 

Agreed, I personally believe Caldwell decided on Blake for the security of having a big. tough QB who would have little down time from injuries... I mean talent wise, all the top QB's in that draft were remarkably close in their ability to lead an NFL offense, some play the game differently,.. but effectiveness produces wins and that's what matters.. I think Mariota is one of the most accurate passers in the NFL, maybe by a pretty big margin,... but I would be extremely worried about building a franchise offense around him due to the fact i don't think he's gonna be consistently on the field from injuries.... I know a great Oline can offset stuff like this but why try and solve a problem when there can be no problem...

 

I think Caldwell was seriously considering either Carr or Bortles and went with Blake for his size and physical reliability... under the Oline he knew he was gonna have... it was the only decision he could make..... If he drafted Carr with our Oline at the time he could have ruined his career..similar to Gabbert (Yes Carr is light years above Gabbert)

 

Both are going to be great, I love football so I like seeing players play at the highest level making plays even if they aren't the Jaguars. I'll enjoy watching the previous jokes of the NFL ( jags,raiders etc ) rip up the establishment. 

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But Ted

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

It could very well come down to coaching.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

The only reasonable answer after only 2 seasons is that it is too early too tell. That counts for Teddy too...I think it's safe to say not for Manziel though hah.

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Carr is a young Drew Bledsoe.

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Let's come back to this poll after Blake wins 4 Super Bowls, guys...

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"It was Blake Bortles the whole time. They believe in this kid. He reminds me a bit of a young Ben Roethlisberger." ~Mike Mayock

As some have said, I think it's really a matter of personal preference. Blake is more a Big Ben type QB and Carr is more like Brees. 2 different type of passers and players. Me personally, I'm all about Baby Ben.

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They are both good. That's all there is to it.


If, in 8 years, we need to start talking about a Manning vs. Brady debate, I will take either one.

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“It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.”
― Albert Camus

For the record, I voted "too early to tell." I'll give Carr the edge for now, but I'm nowhere near deciding the answer.

you already decided so just own up to it and call it a day. 

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No, it's not a matter of pressure. Blake just doesn't throw that perfect pass you only see from the likes of Marino and Manning, but that just doesn't seem to matter ith him. Blake makes it happen. I'm just saying that Carr's passes actually wow me at times, and with Blake it's more about the WRs doing the wowing.

. Well actually Peyton didn't throw the prettiest pass or at least not a spiral passes.

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No, it's not a matter of pressure. Blake just doesn't throw that perfect pass you only see from the likes of Marino and Manning, but that just doesn't seem to matter ith him. Blake makes it happen. I'm just saying that Carr's passes actually wow me at times, and with Blake it's more about the WRs doing the wowing.

Ouch.

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