watch, you called Bortles a bust 4 weeks into the season and now all of a sudden he is the Jags future great QB.  You will be doing the same 180 with Fowler next year

there is literally no way for you to  justify why you think fowler will be an all-pro other than that you're a gato homer.

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Not with the 3rd pick.

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there is literally no way for you to  justify why you think fowler will be an all-pro other than that you're a gato homer.

watch him play, the guy causes havoc on almost every play

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there is literally no way for you to  justify why you think fowler will be an all-pro other than that you're a gato homer.

Go watch his cut up on draftbreakdown

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there is literally no way for you to  justify why you think fowler will be an all-pro other than that you're a gato homer.

I wanted Cooper but Fowler was my 2nd choice.  It might be a good choice if Fowler comes back 100% with the way our WRs and pass rush has turned out this year.  Hurns-A Rob-Cooper would of been deadly though.  When it was came time to resign all 3 though you wouldnt be able to keep them all and put that much money in 1 position though.  We need pass rush more than anything and hopefully Fowler picks right back up where he left off

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1) bro you're not the only one who watches draft breakdown videos

 

2) you're not the only one who watches college football

 

i see a guy who doesn't beat tackles consistently and has more value in his versatility than actual pass rushing ability. 

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Nope no way, we should've taken a RB in the first round unless we traded back up, which Dave wanted to do, but Gurley and Gordon were taken. So they went and got Yeldon who was considered the 3rd best running back in the draft. Yeldon is getting into his grove, he's going to be good.

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The pick should have been Cooper or Gurley, and I understood going for need but again, Caldwell has mishandled picking in the top-5 two out of three years. Fowler was a pure need pick and that's fine, If Fowler becomes a top 5 player at his position that's awesome, but Cooper and Gurley are special looking players. I never felt that way with Fowler. I just don't want to hear the excuses next season if he under-performs (well it's technically his rookie year, we'll never know what he could have been before the injury, etc.). I feel like we have the right to expect a lot from Fowler next season and if he doesnt have 8+Sacks and a ton of tackles, and is an overall dominant/effective player, I will be rightfully critical of the selection. 

 

I think in some respects we have to move on, there are a ton of players I wish the Jags took (Trading up for Derrick Harvey over staying put and taking Calais Campbell is the one that will always kill me).. but we have to move on. Yeldon seems like a very decent player. He was a good selection, but he's not a superstar. My question would be, do you pass on a guy like Leonard Fournette in the next year or two if you have a chance at him for the sake of a very decent running back or do you want guys that change the tone of a game. I don't see Yeldon as a guy that will dominate a game yet. I will say they did miss Yeldon only by comparison a few weeks ago. 

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1) bro you're not the only one who watches draft breakdown videos

 

2) you're not the only one who watches college football

 

i see a guy who doesn't beat tackles consistently and has more value in his versatility than actual pass rushing ability. 

 

 

1) I dont have to watch them on Fowler because I have seen every Florida game

 

2) What does that have to do with anything

 

3) It is both, pass rushing and versatility as to why he was drafted so high.  Same reason Mack was drafted so high. 

 

I am a Gators fan and watch every game so I know what Fowler can do but im not the only one that sees it. 

 

I respect these guys and believe what they see much more than your take

 

Mayock :

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...draft-pick

 

"Fowler is my No. 1 edge rusher," Mayock said on NFL Network's "Path to the Draft." "Why? In today's NFL you have to do three things. One, rush the quarterback. Two, set a physical edge. And, three, drop into coverage. Fowler is the best at all three, in my opinion, in this draft.

"I will be stunned if he gets past pick No. 5. He's a top-five pick all day long."

 

 

Jeremiah:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ge-rushers

 

"I think when you look at Dante Fowler, I believe he's going to be a better pro than he was in college," Jeremiah said on NFL Network's "Path to the Draft" on Friday. "I know the production doesn't blow you away, but he was asked to do a lot of different things at Florida. The more you watch all the edge rushers in this draft, Fowler to me just seems like the safest one of the entire bunch."

 

 

Just another good one for fun:

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23579...g-prospect

 

 

Most people see it.  If he comes back 100% and picks off where he left off, there is no doubt in my mind he he can be the best pass rusher the Jags have ever had

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The pick should have been Cooper or Gurley, and I understood going for need but again, Caldwell has mishandled picking in the top-5 two out of three years. Fowler was a pure need pick and that's fine, If Fowler becomes a top 5 player at his position that's awesome, but Cooper and Gurley are special looking players. I never felt that way with Fowler. I just don't want to hear the excuses next season if he under-performs (well it's technically his rookie year, we'll never know what he could have been before the injury, etc.). I feel like we have the right to expect a lot from Fowler next season and if he doesnt have 8+Sacks and a ton of tackles, and is an overall dominant/effective player, I will be rightfully critical of the selection. 

 

I think in some respects we have to move on, there are a ton of players I wish the Jags took (Trading up for Derrick Harvey over staying put and taking Calais Campbell is the one that will always kill me).. but we have to move on. Yeldon seems like a very decent player. He was a good selection, but he's not a superstar. My question would be, do you pass on a guy like Leonard Fournette in the next year or two if you have a chance at him for the sake of a very decent running back or do you want guys that change the tone of a game. I don't see Yeldon as a guy that will dominate a game yet. I will say they did miss Yeldon only by comparison a few weeks ago. 

Khalil Mack doesnt even have 8 career sacks in a year and a half.  Was he the wrong pick?  To me it isnt about the number of sacks.  Its just what kind of impact he can make on the football field

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1) I dont have to watch them on Fowler because I have seen every Florida game

 

2) What does that have to do with anything

 

3) It is both, pass rushing and versatility as to why he was drafted so high.  Same reason Mack was drafted so high. 

 

I am a Gators fan and watch every game so I know what Fowler can do but im not the only one that sees it. 

 

I respect these guys and believe what they see much more than your take

 

Mayock :

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...draft-pick

 

"Fowler is my No. 1 edge rusher," Mayock said on NFL Network's "Path to the Draft." "Why? In today's NFL you have to do three things. One, rush the quarterback. Two, set a physical edge. And, three, drop into coverage. Fowler is the best at all three, in my opinion, in this draft.

"I will be stunned if he gets past pick No. 5. He's a top-five pick all day long."

 

 

Jeremiah:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ge-rushers

 

"I think when you look at Dante Fowler, I believe he's going to be a better pro than he was in college," Jeremiah said on NFL Network's "Path to the Draft" on Friday. "I know the production doesn't blow you away, but he was asked to do a lot of different things at Florida. The more you watch all the edge rushers in this draft, Fowler to me just seems like the safest one of the entire bunch."

 

 

Just another good one for fun:

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23579...g-prospect

 

 

Most people see it.  If he comes back 100% and picks off where he left off, there is no doubt in my mind he he can be the best pass rusher the Jags have ever had

 

You made a fair point but lost me by using Bleacher Report as a source

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Khalil Mack doesnt even have 8 career sacks in a year and a half.  Was he the wrong pick?  To me it isnt about the number of sacks.  Its just what kind of impact he can make on the football field

 

I know I didn't write an entirely grammatically correct sentence, but please read the entire sentence again and see my disclaimer at the end.  

 

I see where ypu were trying to go with that and Mack is still very raw, and seriously lacks pass rushing technique. That's why people tend to be very enamored with him. Fowler would have to show similar (at minimum) raw skill that can make him dominant.

 

I know Mack got a lot of exposure based on a prime time pre-season match up, but he still struggles at time.

And for the heck of it, you could argue the Raiders could have gone with one or two other need players like a Carr,Bridgewater or Beckham or Aaron Donald who was a much more complete prospect and need than a LB 

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Dude's played 3-4 games and already talk of first ballot hall of fame. Lmfao.

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@theall22 fowler was definitely not a pure needs pick. If anything he was a perfect combination of need and was also the BAP according to pretty much any analyst. Fowler was regarded as the best player in the whole draft by many. If we took Gurley that would've been a needs pick more than a BAP so you are kinda backwards.

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I had to think for a second who we even drafted. Fowler was going to be the next LT but then he took an arrow to the knee.

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I think Caldwell made the right decision. Drafted the generally accepted best DE in the draft and got a good RB in the second.


It's easy today to say you would rather have Gurley but had he been drafted third overall and re-injured his knee people would be trying to run Caldwell out of town for drafting an injured RB so early when that position can be had in later rounds.

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I think Caldwell made the right decision. Drafted the generally accepted best DE in the draft and got a good RB in the second.


It's easy today to say you would rather have Gurley but had he been drafted third overall and re-injured his knee people would be trying to run Caldwell out of town for drafting an injured RB so early when that position can be had in later rounds.

Exactly. You're stupid if you use a 2nd rd pick on a guy that got injured in college and you're stupid if you don't use a high 1st rd pick on a guy who got injured in college.

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Well if Fowler is as good as we think he can be, would you rather have Gurley and Gregory or Fowler and Yeldon?

a guy coming off an acl plus a rb taken with the 3rd pick and a guy who failed a drug test at the combine. Talk about rolling the dice. This board would of exploded

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Fowler is supposed to be a Von Miller clone. I'll stick with Fowler and see what happens.

 

Gurley is a guy I was praying would drop to the second somehow.

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RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

who the hell told you fowler is a von miller clone?? maybe von miller without the bend and explosive power that makes him von miller :/

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