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Gus Bradley: "Chad Henne preformed efficiently"

#41

Quote:So are we just mad he couldn't maintain a nearly perfect game through the second half?

 

If he could do that, he would be Peyton Manning not Chad Henne.


How about not missing Lee on a wide open drag to the sideline where he over threw him by 10 yrds. Or giving marcedes a better chance on a wide open 4th down pass. You don't have to be Manning to do that.


Or how about not gassing all of the timeouts we have in the second half before the 4th qtr. Something someone with his experience shouldn't be doing. That is a rookie mistake.
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#42

Yeah, that's just sloppy work by Alfie.

 

Read the entire report, and watch the video and judge for yourself. 


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#43

Quote:So are we just mad he couldn't maintain a nearly perfect game through the second half?


If he could do that, he would be Peyton Manning not Chad Henne.


I'm not mad about anything.


Your post doesn't make sense and had nothing to do with what I said.


Chad Henne didn't play efficient in the 2nd half along with the rest of the team. The team shouldn't be happy with his play because it wasn't good.


You don't have to blast him and I don't think many here expected him to but Gus has to be careful with what he says. The situation with Bortles and Henne has a fine line with fans. We'We'll had to endure Chad Henne's inconsistent poor QB play for far too long and the team shouldn't expect them to put up with it. Not when the better player is on the team already. If Henne is starter week 3 the home fans likely and understandably will have issues with that.
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#44

Quote:How about not missing Lee on a wide open drag to the sideline where he over threw him by 10 yrds. Or giving marcedes a better chance on a wide open 4th down pass. You don't have to be Manning to do that.


Or how about not gassing all of the timeouts we have in the second half before the 4th qtr. Something someone with his experience shouldn't be doing. That is a rookie mistake.
According to at least one article, it was rookie mistakes that forced Henne to use the timeouts.  The receivers weren't lining up properly.  That's Henne's fault too, right?

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#45

Quote:In the first half, the offense got gifted with extremely short fields.  Other than that they were completely inept.  All other drives only combined for 3 points.  I don't think efficient is the way to describe it but if it is starting to sound like a change is coming then I'm all for it.
 

His efficiency  comment is in reference to the 2 TDs/ 0 INTs and the 89.9 rating IMO.  He's just trying hard to have something good to say. 

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#46

Quote:This as some awfully selective reporting by BCC.  They cherry picked one comment to post an article, and ignored the entire context of the presser.

 

Bradley wasn't all rainbows and gum drops. 
He listed at least three areas where his exact words were "That's not good enough" He definitely voiced displeasure.

Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 
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#47

Quote:LOL! You don't even understand what that means.
 

I call strawman when I see one

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#48
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2014, 04:01 PM by trunt87.)

Quote:According to at least one article, it was rookie mistakes that forced Henne to use the timeouts. The receivers weren't lining up properly. That's Henne's fault too, right?
What happened about all that talk about Henne being able to get the players to the line quicker. In and out of the huddle quicker and what not.


Maybe the time outs weren't his fault. I do know every other qb gets the blame for gassing em when they aren't supposed to. He was calling them like a mad man in the first half also. Those must have been the receivers fault though.
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#49

Quote:He listed at least three areas where his exact words were "That's not good enough" He definitely voiced displeasure.
He also talked about how he should have called a timeout on that 4th down play that Philly scored on.  He said that by their count, there were 6 dropped passes (not 3).  He said the running game improved in the second half, but the piddly YPC average was unacceptable. 

 

He confirmed that the reason Henne had to burn timeouts because the rookies were having trouble lining up on a couple of the plays. 

 

The presser is a lot more revealing than Alfie's one pager intended to generate hits. 

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#50

Quote:What happened about all that talk about Henne being able to get the players to the line quicker. In and out of the huddle quicker and what not.


Maybe the time outs weren't his fault. I do know every other qb gets the blame for gassing em when they aren't supposed to. He was calling them like a mad man in the first half also. Those must have been the receivers fault though.
 

Listen to the presser and you'll have your answer.  If the rookies are struggling with lining up correctly, that's not Henne's fault.  But, God forbid anyone make such a suggestion, so let's just blame Henne for the rookies not getting aligned properly. 

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#51

Quote:He also talked about how he should have called a timeout on that 4th down play that Philly scored on.  He said that by their count, there were 6 dropped passes (not 3).  He said the running game improved in the second half, but the piddly YPC average was unacceptable. 

 

He confirmed that the reason Henne had to burn timeouts because the rookies were having trouble lining up on a couple of the plays. 

 

The presser is a lot more revealing than Alfie's one pager intended to generate hits. 
 

I don't believe it!!!!

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#52

Quote:How about not missing Lee on a wide open drag to the sideline where he over threw him by 10 yrds. Or giving marcedes a better chance on a wide open 4th down pass. You don't have to be Manning to do that.


Or how about not gassing all of the timeouts we have in the second half before the 4th qtr. Something someone with his experience shouldn't be doing. That is a rookie mistake.
How about Lee dropping a big play? What about the D not using a time out and giving up a TD? How about having to call a riskier pass play on 4th and 1 because we couldn't effectively run for short yardage all day?

 

I'm not saying Henne played great, but there is a lot of blame to go around. I just don't subscribe to the view that Henne played worse than he actually did because he wasn't able to overcome not only his but also the multitude of other people's mistakes and carry the team on his back to victory.

 

Henne was hot in the beginning, cooled off at the end, scored a couple of TDs, and didn't throw INTs and had no running game to help him out. A pretty average NFL game for a QB under those circumstances. Very much an efficient game especially for a guy like Henne.

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#53

BTW, the comments that Bradley mentioned about the efficiency and command of the offense?  He said that was the feedback that came from Frank and Jedd (QB coach and OC).  Those weren't his words.  He did say that he said there are quite a few plays where he has to get better.  There were 6 or 7 plays where they had an opportunity to make the catch, and it didn't happen. 


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#54

This article does a good job enumerating the Jaguars' big problem Sunday, their first down gains were abysmal.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jag...or-jaguars

 

Take Hurn's TD pass out and the average gain on first down for the Jaguars Sunday was 2.6 yards.


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#55

Quote:How about Lee dropping a big play? What about the D not using a time out and giving up a TD? How about having to call a riskier pass play on 4th and 1 because we couldn't effectively run for short yardage all day?

 

I'm not saying Henne played great, but there is a lot of blame to go around. I just don't subscribe to the view that Henne played worse than he actually did because he wasn't able to overcome not only his but also the multitude of other people's mistakes and carry the team on his back to victory.

 

Henne was hot in the beginning, cooled off at the end, scored a couple of TDs, and didn't throw INTs and had no running game to help him out. A pretty average NFL game for a QB under those circumstances. Very much an efficient game especially for a guy like Henne.
Blasphemy!  It must all be directed at Henne!

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#56

Quote:I don't believe it!!!!
I know.  Shocker. 

 

I'm actually a little disappointed in Alfie.  He usually does a better job of lifting his stories from other sites.

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#57
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2014, 04:14 PM by P. Haze.)

We know the emphasis on 6 drops are being made but how many dirt balls were thrown? How many were air mailed since we're taking count? Tipped and batted down balls at the line? How many were thrown at a defenders chest?

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#58

Quote:I'm not mad about anything.


Your post doesn't make sense and had nothing to do with what I said.


Chad Henne didn't play efficient in the 2nd half along with the rest of the team. The team shouldn't be happy with his play because it wasn't good.


You don't have to blast him and I don't think many here expected him to but Gus has to be careful with what he says. The situation with Bortles and Henne has a fine line with fans. We'We'll had to endure Chad Henne's inconsistent poor QB play for far too long and the team shouldn't expect them to put up with it. Not when the better player is on the team already. If Henne is starter week 3 the home fans likely and understandably will have issues with that.
What does it matter what half he plays well in? Do points count more in the second half? Do you honestly think things would have worked out better if we allowed the home team to gain the momentum in the first half? Do you think him playing better in the second half rather than the first would have kept the D from blowing coverages and giving the eagles 21 easy points?

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#59

Quote:What does it matter what half he plays well in? Do points count more in the second half? Do you honestly think things would have worked out better if we allowed the home team to gain the momentum in the first half? Do you think him playing better in the second half rather than the first would have kept the D from blowing coverages and giving the eagles 21 easy points?


No?
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#60

Quote:We know the emphasis on 6 drops are being made but how many dirt balls were thrown? How many were air mailed since we're taking count? Tipped and batted down balls at the line? How many were thrown at a defenders chest?
 

Plenty, which isn't something that teams with franchise guys have to worry much about.

 

We can only hope Fisch convinces him Bortles is ready to go in soon.

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