The coaching staff obviously doesn't have a clue what they're doing.  They should consult the message board, right?

That isn't at all what I said so don't start up a pissing match with me.

 

I'm discussing my thoughts and opinions about the situation.

 

You wanna start flipping your lid, go quote one of TMDs posts. Nowhere did I say "I'm right, you're wrong dummyhead" or "the front office doesn't know what they're doing"

I'm always very much of the mindset  of "they know more about it than I do"

 

I'm simply saying I THINK the coaching staff will put in Bortles around week 5, if Henne goes 0-4 to start while all the other facets of the team seem to be working well.

 

You can try to twist it into something else if you want. But you end up looking a lot like your arch nemesis when you do stuff like that.

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There is zero pressure on this coaching staff to win this year.  The focus this year is to get better.  Everything that has been reported about this team indicates they're looking to 2015 to make their move as far as the wins and losses are concerned.  From the owner on down they're all saying the same things, and most people seem to understand the approach and they're willing to be patient.  Then there are those that either don't get it, or simply refuse to believe it. 

 

As far as Gabbert is concerned, we'll never know.  He got hurt.  Henne took over and the offense was more productive. 

 

As far as rooting for an injury to occur to one of the players on the team you supposedly support?  Nice. 

 

 

Nah, I can't root for that. 

 

If it happens that way, then so be it. Its bad form to wish for injury, especially to your own players. 

Wow... Obviously I wasn't saying "I hope Henne gets hurt".

 

I said that in jest....

 

I understand how that could get past some people here... Others I'm kind of surprised.

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That isn't at all what I said so don't start up a [BAD WORD REMOVED] match with me.

 

I'm discussing my thoughts and opinions about the situation.

 

You wanna start flipping your lid, go quote one of TMDs posts. Nowhere did I say "I'm right, you're wrong dummyhead" or "the front office doesn't know what they're doing"

I'm always very much of the mindset  of "they know more about it than I do"

 

I'm simply saying I THINK the coaching staff will put in Bortles around week 5, if Henne goes 0-4 to start while all the other facets of the team seem to be working well.

 

You can try to twist it into something else if you want. But you end up looking a lot like your arch nemesis when you do stuff like that.

 

You've been opining the fact that they're starting Henne, and you're trying to craft injury or performance scenarios in order to get him pulled when the reality is the coaching staff will make the change when they feel the time is right.  It's not going to be driven by Henne's performance, and nobody should be hoping for Henne to be injured.  There's no rush to put Bortles under center this year because there are no expectations beyond improvement in 2014.  Bortles will start when he starts.  No amount of fan complaining is going to change that. 

 

If you have read anything I've posted here about my expectations, I think Bortles will be the starter before the bye week.  It could come as early as week 3 or 4 depending on how the team wants to handle it.  I don't think we're going to have to wait terribly long to see him take over, but it's not going to be because of anything Henne is doing.  Bortles ascension has never been about Henne. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Apparently nfl.com does not quite understand how far behind Bortles is in the footwork department.  Henne's footwork is so much better then Bortles that I honestly don't see Bortles starting for another few years.

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Wow... Obviously I wasn't saying "I hope Henne gets hurt".

 

I said that in jest....

 

I understand how that could get past some people here... Others I'm kind of surprised.

 

Sometimes you can't tell on here. You seem to be one of those staunch "start Blake now" guys. 

 

I'd advise emoticons or something to at least suggest that you weren't being serious with that. 

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Apparently nfl.com does not quite understand how far behind Bortles is in the footwork department.  Henne's footwork is so much better then Bortles that I honestly don't see Bortles starting for another few years.

 

IMO, Its more about the state of the OL at this point. 

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IMO, Its more about the state of the OL at this point. 

 

Agreed.  If we had a stout offensive line, Bortles would more than likely be the starter this week in Philly.  He's show enough. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

You've been opining the fact that they're starting Henne, and you're trying to craft injury or performance scenarios in order to get him pulled when the reality is the coaching staff will make the change when they feel the time is right.  It's not going to be driven by Henne's performance, and nobody should be hoping for Henne to be injured.  There's no rush to put Bortles under center this year because there are no expectations beyond improvement in 2014.  Bortles will start when he starts.  No amount of fan complaining is going to change that. 

I'm not crafting anything. You're trying to craft an argument for arguments sake. Which is no surprise to someone who comes here often enough. I know the "reality" is the coach staff will "make the change when they feel the time is right".

My gut feeling is they will feel it is right when this team slides into a hole caused by poor Henne play.

If Henne plays all 16 games, you won't find my claiming I know better blah blah blah.

 

Yes.... I do think Blake should start now. So what? So does half a dozen talking heads on ESPN. And a whole blog site that follows this team. And some posters on here.

Do I think my opinion has any effect on when or whether Bortles starts? No.

If Henne is starting in week 6 will I fill the board with nonsensical threads of hijacking? No. It ain't what I do.

 

But when the debate comes up, as it surely will, I will stand by my opinion. There is no pressure on this staff to win now you say? Well that is weak. They should want to win. The players surely do. The city wants them to. 

No pressure to win, but winning is what everyone wants. Bortles gives them a better chance to win, in my humble lowly message boarder opinion.

I've always been a big supporter of playing the best guy. Bortles>Henne

 

Sometimes you can't tell on here. You seem to be one of those staunch "start Blake now" guys. 

 

I'd advise emoticons or something to at least suggest that you weren't being serious with that. 

I am a staunch start Blake now. But I would never wish injury on anyone in seriousness. Even Tom Brady.

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I am a staunch start Blake now. But I would never wish injury on anyone in seriousness. Even Tom Brady.

 

I gotta admit, I was close regarding the above & Peyton Manning more than a few times over the years....

 

Very frustrating player to watch for a Jags fan. 

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I'm not crafting anything. You're trying to craft an argument for arguments sake. Which is no surprise to someone who comes here often enough. I know the "reality" is the coach staff will "make the change when they feel the time is right".

My gut feeling is they will feel it is right when this team slides into a hole caused by poor Henne play.

If Henne plays all 16 games, you won't find my claiming I know better blah blah blah.

 

Yes.... I do think Blake should start now. So what? So does half a dozen talking heads on ESPN. And a whole blog site that follows this team. And some posters on here.

Do I think my opinion has any effect on when or whether Bortles starts? No.

If Henne is starting in week 6 will I fill the board with nonsensical threads of hijacking? No. It ain't what I do.

 

But when the debate comes up, as it surely will, I will stand by my opinion. There is no pressure on this staff to win now you say? Well that is weak. They should want to win. The players surely do. The city wants them to. 

No pressure to win, but winning is what everyone wants. Bortles gives them a better chance to win, in my humble lowly message boarder opinion.

I've always been a big supporter of playing the best guy. Bortles>Henne

 

I am a staunch start Blake now. But I would never wish injury on anyone in seriousness. Even Tom Brady.

 

Wanting to win and being under pressure to do so are two different things.  You get that, right?

 

If Bortles was ready to play, he'd be starting.  He may be better than Henne in general, but if he has issues he needs to address at this point, the team is taking the right approach in giving him the time to get those things resolved. 

 

In the end, Bortles will start regardless of how Henne is doing once he's ready.  He is the long term solution at QB for this team.  How quickly he starts is meaningless.  Once he's in there, it's his team. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

There is zero pressure on this coaching staff to win this year.  The focus this year is to get better.  Everything that has been reported about this team indicates they're looking to 2015 to make their move as far as the wins and losses are concerned.  From the owner on down they're all saying the same things, and most people seem to understand the approach and they're willing to be patient.  Then there are those that either don't get it, or simply refuse to believe it. 

 

As far as Gabbert is concerned, we'll never know.  He got hurt.  Henne took over and the offense was more productive. 

 

As far as rooting for an injury to occur to one of the players on the team you supposedly support?  Nice. 

 

Won't it be nice when this coaching staff is actually accountable for something? Like 31 other coaching staff's in the league.

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Won't it be nice when this coaching staff is actually accountable for something? Like 31 other coaching staff's in the league.

 

They're not accountable?  Ultimately, like the other 31 teams, this staff will be held accountable as well.  Just because there is no pressure on them this year doesn't mean they're not being held accountable.  There are expectations that the team improves even if that doesn't mean we see a playoff run this year. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Wanting to win and being under pressure to do so are two different things.  You get that, right?

 

In the end, Bortles will start regardless of how Henne is doing once he's ready.  

Yeah I get that.That's why I said I never said they were pressured. But they WANT to win. By wanting to, they'll make a move (i believe it'll be sooner than later) to make a change in the team. Now, with the way they've played their hand they can say "Oh it isn't because we're 0-4 and Henne sucks, it's because Blake is magically more ready now in week 5 than he was at the end of preseason" which may be true.

 

But for you to say Bortles will start regardless of how Henne is doing is false.

If Henne is leading this team to a winning record, there is no way you pull him if "Bortles is ready".

 

That's why I find the "When Bortles is ready" thing to be bogus coach speak. Not that I am knocking Gus and Dave for it. Every team does it. Coach speak hedges your bets, and keeps you clean in the media, and usually leaves you a back door.

 

Like Alex Smith was the "guy" in San Fran... until he wasn't.

 

Bortles is ready now. The coaching staff just isn't ready to pull the trigger. For whatever reason.

I'm fine with that.... I've endured many losing seasons. And plenty of Henne. I can deal with it.

 

Bortles is just as ready now as he will be in week 3, 7, or 15

The Oline MAY improve more. Since they just named some starters and there will be more shifting at RT and possibly C later in the season when guys are healthy and such.

 

But as I've said before, the Oline won't hold Bortles back. They may hold back Toby and Drob, but Bortles will make plays despite the line.

Henne will check it down because of the Oline.

Bortles may not check out of a play and into the right one all the time. But he'll make the throws Henne can't (or won't).

 

I understand what they're doing. Pressure free, blah blah blah. We're the Jaguars... there isn't a whole lot of expectations for Bortles to ruin with rookie play. Just play the kid. 

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We are all anxious to see our new QB play, but some of the ridiculous statements being made about Chad is just flat out dumb. Chad while he has not been lights out, it has not all been on Chad, the OL was bad yes, but the receivers have been equally as bad!

 

Now all we can do is wait for Sunday, to see if this new group of receivers will make a difference. to be honest, it will take a game or two before we really see what we have  team wise. but when it is time for Blake, we will all be ready to see the team go to the next level!

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I gotta admit, I was close regarding the above & Peyton Manning more than a few times over the years....

 

Very frustrating player to watch for a Jags fan. 

Frustrating indeed, yet the pure football fan in me feels privileged having seen some of the greats over the years.

 

Even though it was against my team, I couldn't be too upset when Barry Sanders had a long TD run against us in 1998.  It seemed to be the prevailing mood in the stadium.

 

I remember Favre coming to the stadium in 1995 (coincidentally Boselli's first game action), scrambling to his left and throwing a bullet across his body into the corner of the end zone from about 30-35 yards out.  I am amazed at the arm strength and accuracy he displayed to this day.

 

At times, rooting against Manning seemed as futile and as frustrating as rooting against James Bond...but without question, he made some absolutely GREAT throws against us.

 

It is my hope that Bortles provides those same feelings for fans of other teams. 

 

I think he will if he is given sufficient help.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Playoffs??? We can't even decide on a QB... how are we going to the playoffs?

Somebody has been drinking a little too heavily.

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

When it comes to playoffs, anything can happen. As far as Blake starting. I think and hope Blake starts week 3. It's just sets up to perfect. Home opener and Blake starting. Imagine the stadium and how live that game will be with him under center. *sigh*

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I gotta admit, I was close regarding the above & Peyton Manning more than a few times over the years....

 

Very frustrating player to watch for a Jags fan. 

Brady was our dream killer in 96. And knocked us out again in 05 and 07.

After 07, my disdain for him was so strong....

 

I swear I didn't mean for his leg to get hurt.

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Brady was our dream killer in 96. And knocked us out again in 05 and 07.

After 07, my disdain for him was so strong....

 

I swear I didn't mean for his leg to get hurt.

 

Nah, that was actually Bledsoe in 1996, IIRC. 

 

Brady didn't become a Patriot until 2000 and didn't start until the following year. 

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Bortles will take over at the bye.

I think barring injury or the Jags playing way beyond expectations, this is a pretty reasonable prediction.

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