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So the knock on Dalton is official

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Quote:But Dalton had a bad senior bowl... that means everything
Looking back with my hindsight glasses, it doesn't surprise me, seeing as that is kind of a primetime game.



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I wanted Dalton (or Kaep) in that 2011 draft, but now I'm happy, we didn't select either of them.

 

Quote:Providing the Bengals don't absorb substantial personnel losses this off-season,   I certainly agree with you that the Bengals will enter the 2014 season with a high caliber roster.   Not counting the QB position,  which of course is the most important position on an NFL team,  I thought the Bengals had the best roster in the AFC in 2013.

 

If the Bengals make the playoffs in 2014 and Andy Dalton has a similar performance as his first 3 playoff game appearances,  with the Bengals losing again,  I think they have to make it a priority to make a major move at the QB position in 2015.  Whether that's drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds or making a trade for a QB,   they won't be able to stay on course with Andy Dalton.  Let alone sign him to a lucrative contract extension.   

 

Unless Dalton is a major factor in helping the team go deep into the playoffs,  they would be making a mistake paying him anything close to what Jay Cutler is going to get from the Bears.  Under the scenario that Dalton doesn't take a major step or more forward,  the only way he should be re-signed is under the Bengals terms.  
 

Agree 100%. We'll see how he will work with a new OC next season. Bengals are probably my favourite AFC team nowadays and before the season I wanted to see them in a Superbowl, but just couldn't trust Dalton.

 

 

Quote:Fun fact: The Bengals are the team with the longest playoff victory drought.  It has been 24 years since they have won a Playoff game.
 

Maybe there is just too much pressure on them. I hope they can overcome this and finally win a playoff game, then I quess it will be easier for them.

 

 

Quote:I am somewhere in the middle on the Dalton issue, I don't think he is quite mediocrity perpetuated, but on the other hand, I don't think he is as good as, say, Tony Romo. I bring them both up, cause they both get a lot of slack about the playoffs, and winning in primetime. I would argue that Romo elevates his team, while Dalton somewhat holds his team back. This is were he must progress. He must at least get to the point were he isn't the problem, and can keep them competative. Theres some good stuff there with Dalton, but he still got to put it together. He is no where near a bust like Gabbs tho. And I think that bears mentioning. He is a starter in this league (justifiable, not just circumstantial). Anyway, thats kind of what I think, I have been enjoying some of the posts, especially from you posters who watch a lot of Bengals games. Its good to know what the inside crowd thinks.
 

Agree. I think Romo is mentally stronger and can recuperate after the mistakes (interceptions) he makes. Dalton can be great, but when he starts to make mistakes, he just can't come back. It's a stupid quess, but I believe Bengals with Romo would win against Chargers. Of course Romo is 7 years older and more experienced, so maybe Dalton can still improve in that aspect over the years. For me Dalton is a boarderline top 15 or maybe top 10 QB and eventually he'll win a playoff game here or there, but I just don't see him win a SB in the future. And that's hard on Bengals, because I think they have a team to be serious contenders every year.


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Now here is a fun fact:


The Jaguars are the last Cat Team to win a playoff game.


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#44

Lets worry about getting a QB ourselves instead of bashing another teams.. Dalton is better than any QB we've had over the last handful of years. Oh.. He's not clutch in the playoffs? What are playoffs?!? I forgot..
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He can't get it done in crunch time. It's as simple as that. He's very inconsistent during the regular season too. If anything, he plays a lot like Eli Manning. One week you love what the kid is doing, and then the next, you're waiting outside the stadium parking lot with a baseball bat and Eric Cartman to beat him like a red-headed step-child.

 

Here is the problem I see with the Bengals though. The offense is imbalanced. They haven't ran the football that great nor that very consistent during the last three years. It's been pedestrian at best. I think that's the problem. Not only that, but Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown. They both need to part ways. Lewis needs to go. He's overrated and mediocre. He reminds me a lot of Jack Del Rio. He'd be a great coordinator but he just doesn't have "it" for the headcoaching position. With Gruden and Zimmer now off of his staff. And with Mike Brown all but declaring and whining that he wanted "Kaepernick" instead. Year four under Dalton is fixing to be ugly. I think this team is fixing to fall backwards and start flirting with a 5 - 11 / 7 - 9 record in 2014.


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