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flgatorsandjags · 03-30-2016, 11:21 PM

Quote:I do believe that. His size is definitely considered an issue. If he struggles against a 6 foot 1 Cooper then how is he gonna do against the Brandon Marshalls of the NFL? How much of a liability will he be in red zone situations against fade passes? Or being one on one when the opposing offense calls a shot play downfield?

I feel like with VH3 he's a good #2 kind of corner. Solid and what you see is what you get. I would rather take a guy like Mackezie Alexander who has a higher ceiling.

Wait what? You go on to talk about Hargreaves size and then you say you would rather take the smaller Alexander lol. Going by how you are worried about size you would want a guy like Jackson III or Apple not Alexander lol. btw, who didnt struggle against Cooper? His size had nothing to do with it and Hargreaves didnt have that bad of a game like some thought. They just looked at the numbers

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:23 PM

Quote:Either you are blind, cant read very good, have reading comprehension problems, or just read what you want to on here. I have stated multiple times my top 2 guys in this draft are Jack and Bosa. That said I wouldnt be upset if we took Hargreaves. You might wine and cry about it but I know we will finally have a guy who can potentially be one of the better corners in the league imo. I like House but I dont think he is a true number 1 corner in the league and you thinking he is, is just your opinion and nothing more!

You are seriously making zero sense the more you post. What the [BLEEP] is that first sentence even in reference too? Literally the only point I'm talking to you about is that you said we don't have a good enough corner on the team to be a #1, when House was very good last year with a piss poor pass rush and think VH3 is some lock to be that #1. If your saying I can't read very good, having reading comprehension problems, or just read what I want because of that then IDK what to say.

So, you keep getting upset with people that don't want Hargreaves and question his ability, yet are sitting here getting all worked up about me saying that House has #1 corner ability after actually SEEING him play on this defense, in this scheme, last year, whereas Hargreaves is a prospect coming out of the draft and yet you act like you are more right about this?

Obviously me saying House can be a #1 corner is just an opinion...but I don't see how it's crazy after actually WATCHING every game last year and seeing him ball out with zero safety help and a [BLEEP] pass rush. I don't know what else you could have expected to see from him.

Also, can you point to me saying VH3 won't be a very good corner in this league? I've always said I really like VH3, but you are making it awfully hard for me to continue with your Gators glasses on.

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:28 PM

Also, I know you stated we can get depth later on and get VH3 in the first and just make it even better, and I wouldn't be opposed to VH3, but with our current corner situation I certainly see a guy in the mid rounds fitting better than a high round pick. House and Amukamara is a very good 1-2 punch with Colvin in the slot. If Amukamara stays healthy he is a highly likely extension candidate. You need more than 3 good corners, but still. I would much rather see us go elsewhere, but if we end up with VH3, I'll be nothing but pumped like most of the guys that are likely targets.

flgatorsandjags · 03-30-2016, 11:38 PM

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You are seriously making zero sense the more you post. What the [BAD WORD REMOVED] is that first sentence even in reference too? Literally the only point I'm talking to you about is that you said we don't have a good enough corner on the team to be a #1, when House was very good last year with a [BAD WORD REMOVED] poor pass rush and think VH3 is some lock to be that #1. If your saying I can't read very good, having reading comprehension problems, or just read what I want because of that then IDK what to say.

So, you keep getting upset with people that don't want Hargreaves and question his ability, yet are sitting here getting all worked up about me saying that House has #1 corner ability after actually SEEING him play on this defense, in this scheme, last year, whereas Hargreaves is a prospect coming out of the draft and yet you act like you are more right about this?

Obviously me saying House can be a #1 corner is just an opinion...but I don't see how it's crazy after actually WATCHING every game last year and seeing him ball out with zero safety help and a [BAD WORD REMOVED] pass rush. I don't know what else you could have expected to see from him.

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Also, can you point to me saying VH3 won't be a very good corner in this league? I've always said I really like VH3, but you are making it awfully hard for me to continue with your Gators glasses on.

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Its really not that hard. I dont think House is a number 1 WR! I think Hargreaves has the potential to be one of the better corners in the league! Jack and Bosa are at the top of my board but if Hargreaves is the pick I feel he can be the number 1 corner we have lacked since Mathis in his prime! Pretty simple. You can cry about how I feel about the situation all you want but thats just it. You think House can be the number 1 corner, the secondary is in good shape with a pass rush, and we need a pass rusher! Cool :thumbsup:

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:43 PM

Quote:Its really not that hard. I dont think House is a number 1 WR. I think Hargreaves has the potential to be one of the better corners in the league. Jack and Bosa are at the top of my board but if Hargreaves is the pick I feel he can be the number 1 corner we have lacked since Mathis in his prime! Pretty simple. You can cry about how I feel about the situation all you want but thats just it. You think House can be the number 1 corner, the secondary is in good shape with a pass rush, and we need a pass rusher! Cool :thumbsup:

:teehee:

This keeps getting better. You are trying so hard!

You obviously don't know how forums work.

"I'm right, you can cry that I think this way even though I'm right. You think this, it's wrong, so just stop."

GTFO

flgatorsandjags · 03-30-2016, 11:48 PM

Lol, damn children on these forums I swear. Now I see why TDJacksonville ran you out of prosportsdaily

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:51 PM

Quote:Lol, damn children on these forums I swear. Now I see why TDJacksonville ran you out of prosportsdaily

How did he run me out of PSD? I'm the one that got him to join the forum to ramp up activity....lol.

Yeah, I'm the child here.

I could give two [BAD WORD REMOVED] if you agree with me and I don't agree with you. It's a sports forum. Not everyone agrees on things, and you obviously don't think that can be the case. I'd say that is the thinking of a child...much more than whatever you are referencing.

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:53 PM

Also, I've never seen a grown man complain about children on a forum, so i'm going to guess you are in the 18-20 year old range. Actually willing to bet on it.

flgatorsandjags · 03-30-2016, 11:54 PM

Quote:How did he run me out of PSD? I'm the one that got him to join the forum to ramp up activity....lol.

Yeah, I'm the child here.

I could give two [BAD WORD REMOVED] if you agree with me and I don't agree with you. It's a sports forum. Not everyone agrees on things, and you obviously don't think that can be the case. I'd say that is the thinking of a child...much more than whatever you are referencing.

lol, I knew that would get you fired up. Haha

C-Dub93 · 03-30-2016, 11:57 PM

Quote:lol, I knew that would get you fired up. Haha

Yeah, I think most people would get fired up with the comments you are making. You are just looking more and more like a fool. You look like you can't have a conversation when someone doesn't agree with every word you say. I have zero idea why you are on a sports forum when you can't take opposite opinions...especially when your basis is that "This corner is a can't miss prospect and the next best thing." If someone says something negative about Hargreaves you just get all pissy and call the guy a child/the guy can cry that they don't feel the same way you do. Like [BAD WORD REMOVED] even is that?

Plus, the PSD comment was funny when like I said, I did bring the guy there. Zero idea why I'd bring him there if I didn't like talking football with him even with his crazy opinions and diehard fandom sometimes to a fault.

flgatorsandjags · 03-31-2016, 12:03 AM

Quote:Yeah, I think most people would get fired up with the comments you are making. You are just looking more and more like a fool. You look like you can't have a conversation when someone doesn't agree with every word you say. I have zero idea why you are on a sports forum when you can't take opposite opinions...especially when your basis is that "This corner is a can't miss prospect and the next best thing." If someone says something negative about Hargreaves you just get all pissy and call the guy a child/the guy can cry that they don't feel the same way you do. Like [BAD WORD REMOVED] even is that?

Plus, the PSD comment was funny when like I said, I did bring the guy there. Zero idea why I'd bring him there if I didn't like talking football with him even with his crazy opinions and diehard fandom sometimes to a fault.

this is you right now lol

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C-Dub93 · 03-31-2016, 12:04 AM

Quote:this is you right now lol

flgatorsandjags · 03-31-2016, 12:07 AM

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this is you right now lol

</blockquote>glad you wiped the tears

C-Dub93 · 03-31-2016, 12:10 AM

Quote:glad you wiped the tears

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KYjaggy · 03-31-2016, 12:46 AM

Quote: I would rather take a guy like Mackenzie Alexander who has a higher ceiling.

If you want the highest CB ceiling then you want the other III.

Markulous · 03-31-2016, 06:50 AM

Quote:If you want the highest CB ceiling then you want the other III.

I'd say WJ3 and VH3 have similar ceilings. Both can be really really good.

I don't really see how Alexander is in the conversation with them. VH3 can do everything better than him IMO.

~~Jagsfan32277~~ · 03-31-2016, 08:35 AM

Nah, Hargraves doesn't fit Bradleys type of corner because he's short and slow.

Cleatwood · 03-31-2016, 09:37 AM

Lol Just like Aguayo, if VH3 didn't play in the state of Florida, no one on here would be talking about him.

But because he went to Florida and people have biased opinions, he's talked about as a pick for us.

Markulous · 03-31-2016, 09:44 AM

VH3 is slow?

jvillejagsn1 · 03-31-2016, 10:07 AM

I like VH3 coverage ability more than Ramsey, but I like Ramsey's athleticism more than VH3. If we could mold the two into 1, I'd be all down. But I'd rather go Jack or moving back and getting Floyd. I'm still not sure of Bosa. But I have faith in Dave; so I guess we'll see!

GO JAGS!!

Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!