Nothing I posted referenced or isolated high risk populations. That's your confirmation bias at work.

4% of the casualties in your country are under age 60.

4% of the casualties in Spain are under age 60.

Confirmation bias, lol.

Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games? 

 New Jersey, which hosts home games for the Jets and Giants of the NFL has nearly 8000 deaths thus far, and reports say that between 14%-17% of those deceased people were between the ages of 50 and 64 years old when they died. 

  Many of them were likely fans of the Eagles, Jets or Giants. 

Do you think this will be considered by the NFL when it's time to sell tickets for games in philly or the meadowlands?

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Regarding whether we will have a 2020 season, I think that we may could have a season, though I could see them putting restrictions in place, making drastic changes to acheive that. Empty stadiums may end up being an option, or at least stadiums with very little fans.The NFL and teams have started to release different plans about how they may approach this upcoming season. The Baltimore Ravens have said they have a budget in case they have to play in empty stadiums.

I saw another team mention that they would have ways that fans would enter/exit the stadium to help keep distance, and I've seen other suggestions as well. The NFL could do a shorter season.I've also seen suggestions that they get rid of the Bye Weeks, start the season later like in October, get rid of the Pro Bowl and other suggestions. Them playing more games on Saturdays (especially if College Football is postponed) is also being thrown out there. And maybe they could also limit the amount of travel that teams do and play in less stadiums/neutral sites.

I also saw a report they were willing to push the Super Bowl back to February 28th if needed. I actually think if they are going to shorten the season, they would be better off pushing it up to like January. Especially if they aren't really going to have fans in the stands anyways. It could be riskier if they spread out the season further.


Here are some links mentioning some of these suggestions:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/05/03/nfl-sc...rt-on-time

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2889...f-covid-19

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/4/28/...ency-plans

The NFL does have some time to try and figure out a way to have a 2020 season. I do like that they haven't rushed into making final decisions and are trying to brainstorm and sort things out. Maybe they can look at the way some other sports are trying to resume and get ideas from there. Plus, they do have the advantage of having a shorter season than most sports, so that could work to their benefit.

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I think there will be something amounting to weekly antibody and antigen testing of the players/staff. It will really suck if your QB is out two weeks for asymptomatic COVID, but that may be the world we are living in.

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I think there will be something amounting to weekly antibody and antigen testing of the players/staff. It will really suck if your QB is out two weeks for asymptomatic COVID, but that may be the world we are living in.

Some main things I could see happening are testing often. Also, limiting the amount of fans in the stands, (and maybe doing empty stadiums) They may even require that fans wear masks in the stands, if they have fans in them. I could see them doing neutral sites/only having teams play in a few stadiums to cut down on traveling and possible exposure. 

I think that one of the things that really hurt a league like the NBA during this crisis, is that they travel so much and were going all over the place. It doesn't help that the NBA has back to back and sometimes even back to back to back games. Maybe the NFL will learn from that and not have their players traveling all over and just limit the amount of stadiums that everyone is playing in. 

And I could see the NFL shortening the season as well. I think that these four things could go a ways in possibly helping them having some sort of season. In addition to other stuff they may do.

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I think there will be something amounting to weekly antibody and antigen testing of the players/staff. It will really suck if your QB is out two weeks for asymptomatic COVID, but that may be the world we are living in.

Some main things I could see happening are testing often. Also, limiting the amount of fans in the stands, (and maybe doing empty stadiums) They may even require that fans wear masks in the stands, if they have fans in them. I could see them doing neutral sites/only having teams play in a few stadiums to cut down on traveling and possible exposure. 

I think that one of the things that really hurt a league like the NBA during this crisis, is that they travel so much and were going all over the place. It doesn't help that the NBA has back to back and sometimes even back to back to back games. Maybe the NFL will learn from that and not have their players traveling all over and just limit the amount of stadiums that everyone is playing in. 

And I could see the NFL shortening the season as well. I think that these four things could go a ways in possibly helping them having some sort of season. In addition to other stuff they may do.

The NBA could play right now. It is easy to isolate ~20 people per team. They could play in 1 arena and rent out 1-2 hotels since no visitors can stay right now. The problem with that is the NBAPA doesn't want to do anything and they already got paid for most of the season.

MLBPA hasn't been paid, so they want to play. The NFL has no clause not to pay, so the NFL will do whatever it needs to so games are played.

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I'm curious how many ST holders were on the fence to renew due to the extra London Game. I was so pissed that I was actually one of those people. This latest news was what I needed and I put in my renewal last night. In any case, I think there will be a season after some delay in the pre-season activity. It will have to be a personal choice for most on whether they want to congregate at the stadium. The team holds no legal responsibility if folks get hurt or sick, etc. Funny that I've seen some say they would still tailgate but not go into the stadium...makes zero sense but hey, that is a choice.

I know I'll sporadically be there as usual and so will many of the long time fans. I have no Rona fear and don't get in the habit of touching people or licking people in the stadium, so all should be good!

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Some main things I could see happening are testing often. Also, limiting the amount of fans in the stands, (and maybe doing empty stadiums) They may even require that fans wear masks in the stands, if they have fans in them. I could see them doing neutral sites/only having teams play in a few stadiums to cut down on traveling and possible exposure. 

I think that one of the things that really hurt a league like the NBA during this crisis, is that they travel so much and were going all over the place. It doesn't help that the NBA has back to back and sometimes even back to back to back games. Maybe the NFL will learn from that and not have their players traveling all over and just limit the amount of stadiums that everyone is playing in. 

And I could see the NFL shortening the season as well. I think that these four things could go a ways in possibly helping them having some sort of season. In addition to other stuff they may do.

The NBA could play right now. It is easy to isolate ~20 people per team. They could play in 1 arena and rent out 1-2 hotels since no visitors can stay right now. The problem with that is the NBAPA doesn't want to do anything and they already got paid for most of the season.

MLBPA hasn't been paid, so they want to play. The NFL has no clause not to pay, so the NFL will do whatever it needs to so games are played.

They are playing in Taiwan.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/world...virus.html

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They can sue. The question is, is there liability? I think with the public concern around C-19 it is something the sports league owners are worried about.

HB- given the fact that the city owns the stadium, would that add another layer of liability concern?

At this time, I'll most likely renew 4 of my 8 tix right before the June deadline (since I want to ensure the job status of my wife and I remains the same).  Tons of layoffs forthcoming in corp america.

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The bad part about this is the fact that the Season Ticket Holder now has to weigh other factors instead of just renewing based on their team and desire to go to the game.  So now, the 65 year old (or person with known health issues ) season ticket holder of 25 years has to blindly renew or lose his seat and tenure, even though he/she knows their health may be at risk.  This is a no win situation for team owner and fan.

I renewed but, at this time, I have no intention of going to a game. Tailgating with the usual 15-20 people, then going into the stadium with what, 10,000? 50,000? people...what could go wrong?

At this time, I'll most likely renew 4 of my 8 tix right before the June deadline (since I want to ensure the job status of my wife and I remains the same).  Tons of layoffs forthcoming in corp america.

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4% of the casualties in your country are under age 60.

4% of the casualties in Spain are under age 60.

Confirmation bias, lol.

Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games? 

 New Jersey, which hosts home games for the Jets and Giants of the NFL has nearly 8000 deaths thus far, and reports say that between 14%-17% of those deceased people were between the ages of 50 and 64 years old when they died. 

  Many of them were likely fans of the Eagles, Jets or Giants. 

Do you think this will be considered by the NFL when it's time to sell tickets for games in philly or the meadowlands?

I do, I also believe that 60 days from now the case numbers will have plateaued and we'll won't be on nearly the quarantine footing we are at present.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games? 

 New Jersey, which hosts home games for the Jets and Giants of the NFL has nearly 8000 deaths thus far, and reports say that between 14%-17% of those deceased people were between the ages of 50 and 64 years old when they died. 

  Many of them were likely fans of the Eagles, Jets or Giants. 

Do you think this will be considered by the NFL when it's time to sell tickets for games in philly or the meadowlands?

Yes, primarily in the club sections or lower level next to the clubs.  That said, we're emerging to more of a transient city so a lot of that segment of the population defer going to the games as they retain their allegiance to the Giants, Jets, Pats, Steelers, Eagles, and Redskins.

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I'm curious how many ST holders were on the fence to renew due to the extra London Game. I was so pissed that I was actually one of those people. This latest news was what I needed and I put in my renewal last night. In any case, I think there will be a season after some delay in the pre-season activity. It will have to be a personal choice for most on whether they want to congregate at the stadium. The team holds no legal responsibility if folks get hurt or sick, etc. Funny that I've seen some say they would still tailgate but not go into the stadium...makes zero sense but hey, that is a choice.

I know I'll sporadically be there as usual and so will many of the long time fans. I have no Rona fear and don't get in the habit of touching people or licking people in the stadium, so all should be good!

I was. I've been a season ticket holder every year since 95 and was seriously considering not renewing. I actually did renew a couple of weeks ago. Having all the games in Jax makes me feel better about it although the reason sucks. How many games I actually go to will be dependent on the situation at that time.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you. 
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Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games? 

 New Jersey, which hosts home games for the Jets and Giants of the NFL has nearly 8000 deaths thus far, and reports say that between 14%-17% of those deceased people were between the ages of 50 and 64 years old when they died. 

  Many of them were likely fans of the Eagles, Jets or Giants. 

Do you think this will be considered by the NFL when it's time to sell tickets for games in philly or the meadowlands?

Yes, primarily in the club sections or lower level next to the clubs.  That said, we're emerging to more of a transient city so a lot of that segment of the population defer going to the games as they retain their allegiance to the Giants, Jets, Pats, Steelers, Eagles, and Redskins.

Sure, but I'm not talking about Jacksonville. 

I'm talking about larger markets where the curve may not have flattened enough by late summer for the league or the local government to justify gatherings of 60K people. 

If six teams out of 32 aren't permitted to have attendance at home games, how is the league going to move forward with a season? 

I'm just spitballing potential issues here, and I think this could be one.

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If 1 team isn't allowed fans, none will be. It's either all or none. The NFL will be looking at lawsuits if 1 team or city says no fans but others said it was safe enough.

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They will play to no fans if they have to $$$$

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the London games were easier to swallow when we suddenly performed well and won those games, but lately we’ve been laying turds whenever we go across the pond

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Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games?

Yes. But the fact that we're asking this question shows a misunderstanding of the issue. Mass events spread the virus in ways that it would not otherwise have been spread. Even if no over-50 people attend, the virus will spread widely to other people, who will go on to directly or indirectly infect people who are over 50.

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Do people between the ages of 50 to 64 years old attend NFL football games?

Yes. But the fact that we're asking this question shows a misunderstanding of the issue. Mass events spread the virus in ways that it would not otherwise have been spread. Even if no over-50 people attend, the virus will spread widely to other people, who will go on to directly or indirectly infect people who are over 50.

I understand that. 

I was responding to a post that seemed to be intent on diminishing the risk of death to those under sixty. 
Trust me, I don't misunderstand the issue. I have friends and family working in hospitals with makeshift protective gear that they must improperly reuse out of necessity, I have multiple friends who have lost parents, and I have lost former colleagues in NYC to this thing. I don't weigh attendance at football games ahead of the safety of these people. 

I don't consider myself at great risk. I don't wear a mask at the grocer for myself. I wear it for the parents and grandparents of the people who work there and shop there - as well as the elderly who are forced to shop there themselves.

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Yes. But the fact that we're asking this question shows a misunderstanding of the issue. Mass events spread the virus in ways that it would not otherwise have been spread. Even if no over-50 people attend, the virus will spread widely to other people, who will go on to directly or indirectly infect people who are over 50.

I understand that. 

I was responding to a post that seemed to be intent on diminishing the risk of death to those under sixty. 
Trust me, I don't misunderstand the issue. I have friends and family working in hospitals with makeshift protective gear that they must improperly reuse out of necessity, I have multiple friends who have lost parents, and I have lost former colleagues in NYC to this thing. I don't weigh attendance at football games ahead of the safety of these people. 

I don't consider myself at great risk. I don't wear a mask at the grocer for myself. I wear it for the parents and grandparents of the people who work there and shop there - as well as the elderly who are forced to shop there themselves.

I'm diminishing the risk of death to 99% of the population. Take precautions for the high risk groups absolutely, but that doesn't entail shutting down the world. If we weigh a very tiny minority of people's safety above all else then we have a society of paralysis.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I understand that. 

I was responding to a post that seemed to be intent on diminishing the risk of death to those under sixty. 
Trust me, I don't misunderstand the issue. I have friends and family working in hospitals with makeshift protective gear that they must improperly reuse out of necessity, I have multiple friends who have lost parents, and I have lost former colleagues in NYC to this thing. I don't weigh attendance at football games ahead of the safety of these people. 

I don't consider myself at great risk. I don't wear a mask at the grocer for myself. I wear it for the parents and grandparents of the people who work there and shop there - as well as the elderly who are forced to shop there themselves.

I'm diminishing the risk of death to 99% of the population. Take precautions for the high risk groups absolutely, but that doesn't entail shutting down the world. If we weigh a very tiny minority of people's safety above all else then we have a society of paralysis.

Temporary paralysis that will save the lives of human beings who will otherwise suffocate and die - but it's cool because we can go to Fuddruckers and football games.

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