How the hell is the OL playing horribly an excuse? 

What is it an excuse for? 

Jaguars fans, beat writers, pundits, radio personalities are all over the airwaves and internet in unified agreement that this OL is playing terribly and costing us potential wins. 

Because that is exactly what is happening. That's not a [BLEEP] excuse. It's maddening. I'm livid that our braintrust has not yet figured out how to cobble together even a mid-tier offensive line. 

I'm not making an excuse about a damned thing. Why are ppl calling it an excuse?

Same like the rest of the NFL fan base. It's not just us.

Easy way out is to blame it on O-line.

So you have absolutely no answer.

Got it.

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Why are y'all getting so heated about this.

There is no single reason the offense has sucked and lost both games so far. This team has issues including needed better offensive line play/execution, better schematics, better personnel at certain spots, better play sequencing, fewer penalties, better QB pocket presence, better QB accuracy/WR communication, etc. And yes given how close the games have been despite all the mistakes, fixing even just one of those things would have probably change the results in at least one of the games.

Basically, you can both be correct. The question now is what the easiest thing to fix that will get the most bang for the buck. You could try a different set of 5 guys (pretty sure DP/PT won't do that). You could try to add more schematic help to the protection with more TE's and chip help. You could have better play sequencing so def don't know exactly what is coming. But some of the stuff are not easy fixes.

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Next week the excuse will be Buffalo is a really good team, we were on the road etc.  There are a few people that will continue to make excuse after excuse for this team.  You are what your record says you are at the end of the day.

Next weeks excuse will be how bad the OLine is.

LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

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Next weeks excuse will be how bad the OLine is.

LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

Let it out baby, you know you want to!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Next weeks excuse will be how bad the OLine is.

LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

So - you want to fire Doug Pederson right now to save our season?

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LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

So - you want to fire Doug Pederson right now to save our season?

Ken Dorsey wasn't the HC...

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LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

Let it out baby, you know you want to!

I don't know what you're talking about, bro.  But if you don't mind.  Please stop trying to bait me.  It's not going to work.

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So - you want to fire Doug Pederson right now to save our season?

Ken Dorsey wasn't the HC...

Different situation. 

The bills weren't running the the HC's offense. 
Firing the OC in Jax doesn't change the offense. 
You'd have to fire Doug to do that.

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Ken Dorsey wasn't the HC...

Different situation. 

The bills weren't running the the HC's offense. 
Firing the OC in Jax doesn't change the offense. 
You'd have to fire Doug to do that.

No, you don't.

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Next weeks excuse will be how bad the OLine is.

LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

This could be an option if Doug had been clear this is "Press Taylor's offense" and PT is calling plays. Instead Doug has obfuscated all that with all his comments and press conferences. 

So the only way you could accomplish that level change would be the fire both. 

Or i guess you could do what Philly did and have the FO fire the coordinators but keep the HC in place as pretty face, but I don't think that would work here because more fans and media want Baalke fired than anyone on the Jags. Only a few guys like Howie Roseman has built up the trust to try something like that.

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Ken Dorsey wasn't the HC...

Different situation. 

The bills weren't running the the HC's offense. 
Firing the OC in Jax doesn't change the offense. 
You'd have to fire Doug to do that.

If things don't drastically improve, I would completely clean house.

Doug served his purpose of getting the team out of the gutter but I don't think he can take this team over the top to a Super Bowl.

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Different situation. 

The bills weren't running the the HC's offense. 
Firing the OC in Jax doesn't change the offense. 
You'd have to fire Doug to do that.

No, you don't.

Just go ahead and say it's all Press Taylor's fault man. You've been [BLEEP] footing around it since we let you back in. Just be blunt about it. "It's all that damn Press Taylor fault, just fire him and we'll win the Super Bowl." It will be so cathartic for you to give in to your demon.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

LOL, it's an easy excuse that relies on no much thought.  

I would like to remind everyone of the team we are playing:  The Bills.

So that team was in a funk last year.  Fans were blaming the players.  The QB was throwing too many picks.  The O-Line wasn't protecting the QB enough and they couldn't run block.  Similar stuff to what we hear in this very forum.

Well, guess what they did?  They fired Ken Dorsey.  Who's Ken Dorsey?  He's was the OC at the time of the Bills slump last year!!!  They fired him, promoted Joe Brady to OC.  Since they replaced their OC they've gone 7-2 last season and are off to a 2-0 start this year.

Interesting what can happen when you decided to make a change when ineptitude bad coaching isn't tolerated.

This could be an option if Doug had been clear this is "Press Taylor's offense" and PT is calling plays. Instead Doug has obfuscated all that with all his comments and press conferences. 

So the only way you could accomplish that level change would be the fire both. 

Or i guess you could do what Philly did and have the FO fire the coordinators but keep the HC in place as pretty face, but I don't think that would work.

I mean, it might very well come to firing Doug and getting a whole new staff.

But it's obvious that things can still work out if Doug let Press go and find another OC to groom while he takes over the offense.

I recall Dallas also did something like this.  There's no reason we have to fire Doug, unless he want's to keep on the same course that in resulting in disaster.

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Atta boy, see? Don't you feel better up there on your box?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No, you don't.

Just go ahead and say it's all Press Taylor's fault man. You've been [BLEEP] footing around it since we let you back in. Just be blunt about it. "It's all that damn Press Taylor fault, just fire him and we'll win the Super Bowl." It will be so cathartic for you to give in to your demon.

Bro, you're spite towards me is really odd.  I get it, you don't like me.  But stop following me into every thread and trying to start something up with me.  I'm not going to fall for it.  Just let it go, man.

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Different situation. 

The bills weren't running the the HC's offense. 
Firing the OC in Jax doesn't change the offense. 
You'd have to fire Doug to do that.

If things don't drastically improve, I would completely clean house.

Doug served his purpose of getting the team out of the gutter but I don't think he can take this team over the top to a Super Bowl.

I think everyone here agrees with those sentiments. 

The question at hand though is this season. Would firing Doug say before the BYE week salvage the season at all or not? I tend to lean towards firing Doug Pederson and Press Taylor wouldn't change much this year, as I doubt a makeshift Mike McCoy offense that is implemented mid season fixes much especially since those middling SDC offenses were with a much better QB in Phillip Rivers compared to current Trevor Lawrence.

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This could be an option if Doug had been clear this is "Press Taylor's offense" and PT is calling plays. Instead Doug has obfuscated all that with all his comments and press conferences. 

So the only way you could accomplish that level change would be the fire both. 

Or i guess you could do what Philly did and have the FO fire the coordinators but keep the HC in place as pretty face, but I don't think that would work.

I mean, it might very well come to firing Doug and getting a whole new staff.

But it's obvious that things can still work out if Doug let Press go and find another OC to groom while he takes over the offense.

I recall Dallas also did something like this.  There's no reason we have to fire Doug, unless he want's to keep on the same course that in resulting in disaster.

But wouldn't that be an off season salve? There is no way during the season Doug fires Press Taylor and gives up the offense to Mike McCoy.

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Just go ahead and say it's all Press Taylor's fault man. You've been [BLEEP] footing around it since we let you back in. Just be blunt about it. "It's all that damn Press Taylor fault, just fire him and we'll win the Super Bowl." It will be so cathartic for you to give in to your demon.

Bro, you're spite towards me is really odd.  I get it, you don't like me.  But stop following me into every thread and trying to start something up with me.  I'm not going to fall for it.  Just let it go, man.

I'm just helping you get your real thoughts out there instead of beating around the bush. We know your issue is Press Taylor. Your insistence and he's not pushing the right button on that Playstation controller is what's wrong with this team and if we'd just fire him all would be well. And I'm not letting it go, you're finally starting to own up to it.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Bro, you're spite towards me is really odd.  I get it, you don't like me.  But stop following me into every thread and trying to start something up with me.  I'm not going to fall for it.  Just let it go, man.

I'm just helping you get your real thoughts out there instead of beating around the bush. We know your issue is Press Taylor. Your insistence and he's not pushing the right button on that Playstation controller is what's wrong with this team and if we'd just fire him all would be well. And I'm not letting it go, you're finally starting to own up to it.

My issue is that this offense has fallen off a cliff since 2022.  That's my issue.

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If things don't drastically improve, I would completely clean house.

Doug served his purpose of getting the team out of the gutter but I don't think he can take this team over the top to a Super Bowl.

I think everyone here agrees with those sentiments. 

The question at hand though is this season. Would firing Doug say before the BYE week salvage the season at all or not? I tend to lean towards firing Doug Pederson and Press Taylor wouldn't change much this year, as I doubt a makeshift Mike McCoy offense that is implemented mid season fixes much especially since those middling SDC offenses were with a much better QB in Phillip Rivers compared to current Trevor Lawrence.

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I mean, it might very well come to firing Doug and getting a whole new staff.

But it's obvious that things can still work out if Doug let Press go and find another OC to groom while he takes over the offense.

I recall Dallas also did something like this.  There's no reason we have to fire Doug, unless he want's to keep on the same course that in resulting in disaster.

But wouldn't that be an off season salve? There is no way during the season Doug fires Press Taylor and gives up the offense to Mike McCoy.

At the BYE week?! No. It wouldn't salvage the season because that would be in week 12. If the Jags are 4-7 at that point (which is absolutely possible), the season would be over.

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I'm just helping you get your real thoughts out there instead of beating around the bush. We know your issue is Press Taylor. Your insistence and he's not pushing the right button on that Playstation controller is what's wrong with this team and if we'd just fire him all would be well. And I'm not letting it go, you're finally starting to own up to it.

My issue is that this offense has fallen off a cliff since 2022.  That's my issue.

And yet it didn't. Your perception of it has which in turn is clouded by your odd hate boner for Press Taylor.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

My issue is that this offense has fallen off a cliff since 2022.  That's my issue.

And yet it didn't. 

I disagree.

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