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(08-17-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 12:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You should all be American. Culturally a western European society with Enlightenment values underscored by Judeo-Christian ethics. Economically a capitalist free market unhampered by government interference. Where have you been dude. Has this not been going on for at least the last two decades?
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(08-17-2024, 02:45 PM)copycat Wrote:(08-17-2024, 12:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: He's talking about a fantasy world where there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them. Quoted for truth. (08-17-2024, 01:30 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(08-17-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: Right, so if I want to complain that this society was racist from the beginning, and that black, female, and queer voices need to be amplified in the media, you would be happy with just boycotting me? You wouldn't want to do anything else to retaliate? That's fine, but many of your fellow travelers would try for censorship if they got the chance. (08-17-2024, 01:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:(08-17-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: Right, so if I want to complain that this society was racist from the beginning, and that black, female, and queer voices need to be amplified in the media, you would be happy with just boycotting me? You wouldn't want to do anything else to retaliate? I don't know, but people say they do. And other people try to censor those people, get their books removed from libraries, get their shows removed from network TV, etc.
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(08-17-2024, 02:45 PM)copycat Wrote:(08-17-2024, 12:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: He's talking about a fantasy world where there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them. Democrats highlight inequality and try to sell themselves as people who can solve it. Democrats make sure to over-emphasize diversity to the point where people believe that about a quarter of the population is queer when it's really more like a sixteenth. They do try to get things they don't agree with suppressed but so do Republicans. Fortunately for now the judicial branch stops both parties.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (08-17-2024, 04:35 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 02:45 PM)copycat Wrote: You just described the democrat philosophy and playbook. Unwittingly of course. The Right: I do not believe this appropriate for a 7 year old child. The Left: Charlie Kirk is coming to our campus? We cannot allow this! Yup, completely the same.
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(08-17-2024, 04:42 PM)copycat Wrote:(08-17-2024, 04:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: Democrats highlight inequality and try to sell themselves as people who can solve it. Thank you for admitting that what I described is not actually the Democrat playbook. College administrators are not the entire left. Some of them aren't even left in the first place. They have a duty to draw a line of what speech is constructive to the goals of the University and what speech is not. I don't see how Charlie Kirk crossed that line, but that's between him and the University, not me, not the government. I completely agree with efforts to keep displays of queerness away from kids, many on the left don't, but banning the library books for everyone is too far. I wouldn't want my public library banning the theology and self help books I prefer. The queer stuff just needs to be in its own section. But neither the left nor the right will accept that at the moment.
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(08-17-2024, 04:48 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 04:42 PM)copycat Wrote: The Right: I do not believe this appropriate for a 7 year old child. Your first sentence explains a lot. I pointed out an example of left vs right ideals and you concluded I agreed with you? Wow! Let’s try another example. Which side shuts down free speech in the name of political correctness and which side opposes that?
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(08-17-2024, 04:15 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 01:30 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Of course, sunlight is the best disinfectant for stupid ideas. I'm a rights absolutist. You know this. I don't know any Libertarians who support suppressing rights. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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(08-17-2024, 08:05 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 06:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I don't know any Libertarians who support suppressing rights. How do you draw these conclusions? LMAO I think I am starting to understand your hatred of the Donald. You both share that narcissistic gene.
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(08-17-2024, 08:05 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-17-2024, 06:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I don't know any Libertarians who support suppressing rights. Your sample of zero is immaterial. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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(08-17-2024, 08:39 PM)copycat Wrote:(08-17-2024, 08:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: You didn't address my points about inequality and queerness. So I conclude that you conceded them. Here's what I wrote: Quote:[Elements of the right want a world where...] there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them.Here's your reply: Quote:You just described the democrat philosophy and playbook. Unwittingly of course I was not describing the Democrat playbook. At all. And I explained the major difference: Quote:Democrats highlight inequality and try to sell themselves as people who can solve it. These are things that Republicans do not do. They do not embrace diversity. They brush over economic inequality and sanitize queerness.
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