To sum what you're saying up:

 

Whose quote is the other one from?, because only one of those was my quote. 

 

I understand as a liberal, lack of ethics is something thats innate, but let my words stand on their own. Don't underhandedly try to align me with another's as some sort of typical argumentative ploy. 

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You cannot really believe this. Being gay with equality will be the same thing being gay was a hundred years ago and a hundred years from now. They will just be able to legally get healthcare for spouses and visitation rights on death beds. If you want to get into pushing the envelope sexually, you will need to turn to a more repressed culture like the Japanese BDSM scene for starters.

 

We'll see how it plays out....

 

(well, not you and I) but figuratively....

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Whose quote is the other one from?, because only one of those was my quote. 

 

I understand as a liberal, lack of ethics is something thats innate, but let my words stand on their own. Don't underhandedly try to align me with another's as some sort of typical argumentative ploy. 

 

That quote is what you just said in plain language.

 

Just making sure no one loses track of what you're actually saying because you try to make it more sesquipedalian.

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Cognitive dissonance requires that type of irrational fear.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

That quote is what you just said in plain language.

 

Just making sure no one loses track of what you're actually saying because you try to make it more sesquipedalian.

 

I used plain language. There was no need to lump in with another post.

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I used plain language. There was no need to lump in with another post.

 

While your vocabulary is certainly lacking your post danced around your point, which is that there's no difference between homosexuals and pedophiles: that they're both really into what they're into just to be perverts, and one kind of perversion can be substituted for another.

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While your vocabulary is certainly lacking your post danced around your point, which is that there's no difference between homosexuals and pedophiles: that they're both really into what they're into just to be perverts, and one kind of perversion can be substituted for another.

 

I never said there was no difference between homosexuals and pedophiles. 

 

 

Those are your words and that was not my point. 

 

 

LOL, typical liberal tendencies again tho... with the shot at my vocabulary, and the above misrepresentation. 

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I never said there was no difference between homosexuals and pedophiles. 

 

 

Those are your words and that was not my point. 

 

 

LOL, typical liberal tendencies again tho... with the shot at my vocabulary, and the above misrepresentation. 

 

Then what's your concern with legalizing same sex marriage, again?

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Then what's your concern with legalizing same sex marriage, again?

 

I didn't realize I brought one forth in this thread. 

 

All I said was that I was "pro-traditional marriage". 

 

I know that according to some of you liberals, that claim automatically defaults to = me being a "hater"/ "homophobe", but that is not the case. I am allowed my own opinions and to support my own beliefs without "hating" on the other side. 

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I didn't realize I brought one forth in this thread. 

 

All I said was that I was "pro-traditional marriage". 

 

I know that according to some of you liberals, that claim automatically defaults to = me being a "hater"/ "homophobe", but that is not the case. I am allowed my own opinions and to support my own beliefs without "hating" on the other side. 

 

I like it when people are pro things.

 

I'm glad that you understand that you can endorse traditional marriage while simultaneously being completely unconcerned with the proliferation of same sex marriage.

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You are only allowed to have your own opinions if you are able to clearly convey them. When people use your own words to debate you, you cannot accuse them of name calling or putting words in your mouth. If you have an opinion, state it and own it. When you get all cryptic and clever, it never ends well for anyone.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

One thing I have never understood is how the marriage of a homosexual couple threatens the marriage of a heterosexual couple, or the institution of marriage itself.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

One thing I have never understood is how the marriage of a homosexual couple threatens the marriage of a heterosexual couple, or the institution of marriage itself.

 

Obviously it doesn't, and our well thought and intellectually evolved boardmate, the mad dog, agrees. He's pro traditional marriage, which is great, in his last post he made it clear that he has no position at all on what other kinds of marriages might come into existence to exist alongside and on equal legal footing to traditional marriage.

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Regarding the homosexuality with pedophilia connection:  my impression is Brian Brown is expressing concern that if ' Gay Marriage' is legalized and accepted,  that will eventually lead to the strong possibility of pedphilia being pushed and accepted.   In the case of the latter,  including by the courts.    I share this concern.   In addition, IMO [BAD WORD REMOVED] also could be a future agenda in the United State and in other countries that accept ' Gay Marriage'  and related designations.     There was a time when practically no one would even think about publicly pushing for ' Gay Marriage' .   I think the U.S. is heading down a very slippy slope.  

 

 

This is why I prefer the board not to delve into political or pseudo-political discussions.

 

I had a lot of respect for you prior to the above post, D6. That respect is gone. I don't expect you to care.

 

How anybody can believe that Gay Marriage would somehow serve as a gateway to society accepting pedophilia is beyond rational comprehension. I can't stand when people paint gay marriage in such a light. It's such an unrealistic, incomprehensible, contrived way of thinking.

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One thing I have never understood is how the marriage of a homosexual couple threatens the marriage of a heterosexual couple, or the institution of marriage itself.

 

If Uncle Sam riding a rocket is totally unrelated to heterosexual marriage, then so is the joining of two people of the same sex into a lifelong relationship with tax benefits and additional rights.

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Does anyone else have to suppress a Beavis and Butthead moment whenever they hear about the LGBT community shoving something down someone's throat?

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

If one has a fear of pedophilia being legalized and accepted, then perhaps people should spend their time attacking pedophilia, than gay marriage.  You don't fight banning guns because you're worried they'll ban knives next, unless you feel they shouldn't ban guns.  But worrying about them banning knives isn't a good reason to fight banning guns.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I'm not sure what the connection is? What does being gay have to do with pediphilia? These are two completely separate issues. I guess we were going down a slippery slope when we allowed women the right to vote and afforded black people the same freedoms as white people. This backwards thinking is what is holding us back, but things are still progressing regardless which is a good thing.

 

From my perspective,  there's a huge difference between women and black rights compared to supporting ' Gay Marriage'.  As in 180 degrees.   I gladly have and plan on continuing to support true Conservative Women and Blacks for office and in general.   On the other hand,  I can never accept ' Gay Marriage'  because of something that we aren't suppose to discuss on the Forum:  Religious reasons.  

 

I never said that being gay has anything directly to do with pedophilia   However,  I strongly believe that many activists that have supported ' Gay Marriage'  will eventually push the bar trying to legitimize pedaphilla.   It's very difficult to express my views without discussing religion.   But in the most general terms,   there are those that want to separate themselves from religion as much as possible.   Some of those individuals emerge as activists.     While you might view ' Gay Marriage'  as progress,  I view it as regress.   In America,  we still have the right to have differing opinions.

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I'll guess what I think D6 is trying to say in regards to the "connection"...

 

There was a time when homosexuality was considered "taboo" or perversive by a large majority of people....in current society, its increasingly not seen as that way, with the help of the interest groups that are bullying their ideas, and maybe also via the ease for anyone to obtain x rated movies via the internet....Most people understand that once something is gained, it usually doesn't just "stop" there....a fringe will want more and more and become bored with the "status quo"...when being gay isn't enough to satisfy their sexual desires, then what?....then they seek something else to satisfy their needs....could it evolve into legal pedophelia? incest? polygamy?? Who knows what road it will evolve into?? I'd bet few people saw where we are now regarding homosexuality being "normal" 60 years ago....

 

Thank you,  TMD.   To a very large extent,  you summed up my thoughts.

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You are only allowed to have your own opinions if you are able to clearly convey them. When people use your own words to debate you, you cannot accuse them of name calling or putting words in your mouth. If you have an opinion, state it and own it. When you get all cryptic and clever, it never ends well for anyone.

 

I had no issue with people using "my own words" to debate me....I took issue when people (Oklahomie) tried to morph my words with someone elses. Go back and look. There was no getting cryptic and clever to voice my opinion it was just honest....perhaps thats your own guilt getting in the way..... hahahah what am I saying  A liberal has to have a soul before he'd feel any guilt.... and we know they are pretty much like ginger's....

 

This is why I prefer the board not to delve into political or pseudo-political discussions.

 

I had a lot of respect for you prior to the above post, D6. That respect is gone. I don't expect you to care.

 

How anybody can believe that Gay Marriage would somehow serve as a gateway to society accepting pedophilia is beyond rational comprehension. I can't stand when people paint gay marriage in such a light. It's such an unrealistic, incomprehensible, contrived way of thinking.

 

Why did you capitalize "gay marriage" up there?

 

Thank you,  TMD.   To a very large extent,  you summed up my thoughts.

 

You're welcome D6. 

 

I still have respect for you as a poster, despite the MoJo44's of the world. :thumbsup:

 

If respect is lost that easily by that guy, its apparent the prior respect meant little anyway....thus nothing really lost, bro. 

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