He's trying to get 90-100 million with 50-60 mil guaranteed. 
He isn't worried about that 30. (which, btw, was only rumor -  we don't know what was offered)

The issue is the net amount of money would have likely been higher if he just took a deal originally. You have to realize the difference with being a free agent vs under contract when it comes time to negotiations. That said I am so sick of our front office not handling these guys correctly and running them off.

We have no idea what the structure of that deal may have been , what the guarantees may have been and what stipulations were included. 

For all we know the Jags had a team option attached to a two year deal with the 3rd year not being secure of Yannick at all. 

There is way more to all of this than just the money Yan would have made this year had he taken a deal

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Trash

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Trash

No, until he's traded, he's the greatest defensive end in the league, and an outstanding human being.  After he's traded, then we can say whatever we want.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

I'm just not sure how anyone can trust what this FO does anymore. They have preached winning and yet they get rid of cornerstone players. They handle almost every situation about as poorly as JDub would have.

Going to be hard to lure free agents to Jacksonville with how poorly everything is being handled and then add in 2 London games.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Does this mean Coughlin wasn't the ONLY problem.

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Yan needs to get real though. He is missing out on up to 30 million by not signing last year if he sits out this year

He's trying to get 90-100 million with 50-60 mil guaranteed. 
He isn't worried about that 30. (which, btw, was only rumor -  we don't know what was offered)

He should be worried about it.  If he sits out this year, that's two years of earnings he will never get back.  For as big as Frank Clark's deal was, it was only "guaranteed" at around $60M.  And that full $60M was only guaranteed if he was on the roster by certain dates.  Basically he signed at most a 4 year deal and possibly 3 if his play falls off the next year or two.  

Without knowing exactly what the Jags offered it's hard to compare.  All we know is the the base of $19M compared to what Yan wanted at $22M.  But the more important part is the upfront signing bonus and the guaranteed annual bases if there were any.  It seems likely however that if Yan had signed the deal last year, by the end of the 2020 season, he'd be at $40M or so with the signing, base of $19M and various bonuses.  Current state however, if he doesnt want to play for the Jags and decides to sit out if tagged, instead of $40M he'll have made around $2M.  And will be waiting for some team to offer him the huge deal he wants which may or may not happen and he'll need to make up that $38M somewhere.  Rumors were the Jags offered a shorter term deal.  Lets say ultimately he would have made $60M over 3 years.  At the end of 2021, it's likely he'd be going into free agency with $60M in his pocket and the ability to cash a 3rd contract as he'd still only be 26 or so.  Instead he now may need to wait until the end of the 2020 season to get his first big contract.  

Saying all that I'd be stunned if he sat out once we tag him.  He'd be insane to give away another year's worth of top end salary.

Anyways again this whole thing seems crazy from both sides.  Yan may ultimately regret the decisions he has made potentially losing out on boatload of cash and the Jags may end up losing a player they really like.  And it's very possible there was a reasonable compromise somewhere in the middle.

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https://twitter.com/josinaanderson/statu...13280?s=21

Would be a very poor move from them and pretty unlikely to happen also. They have very little leeway to

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He's trying to get 90-100 million with 50-60 mil guaranteed. 
He isn't worried about that 30. (which, btw, was only rumor -  we don't know what was offered)

He should be worried about it.  If he sits out this year, that's two years of earnings he will never get back.  For as big as Frank Clark's deal was, it was only "guaranteed" at around $60M.  And that full $60M was only guaranteed if he was on the roster by certain dates.  Basically he signed at most a 4 year deal and possibly 3 if his play falls off the next year or two.  

Without knowing exactly what the Jags offered it's hard to compare.  All we know is the the base of $19M compared to what Yan wanted at $22M.  But the more important part is the upfront signing bonus and the guaranteed annual bases if there were any.  It seems likely however that if Yan had signed the deal last year, by the end of the 2020 season, he'd be at $40M or so with the signing, base of $19M and various bonuses.  Current state however, if he doesnt want to play for the Jags and decides to sit out if tagged, instead of $40M he'll have made around $2M.  And will be waiting for some team to offer him the huge deal he wants which may or may not happen and he'll need to make up that $38M somewhere.  Rumors were the Jags offered a shorter term deal.  Lets say ultimately he would have made $60M over 3 years.  At the end of 2021, it's likely he'd be going into free agency with $60M in his pocket and the ability to cash a 3rd contract as he'd still only be 26 or so.  Instead he now may need to wait until the end of the 2020 season to get his first big contract.  

Saying all that I'd be stunned if he sat out once we tag him.  He'd be insane to give away another year's worth of top end salary.

Anyways again this whole thing seems crazy from both sides.  Yan may ultimately regret the decisions he has made potentially losing out on boatload of cash and the Jags may end up losing a player they really like.  And it's very possible there was a reasonable compromise somewhere in the middle.

He's going to get paid handsomely. And it will be better than whatever Coughlin was hardlining him with. 

I'd wager nearly anything on that.  Whether he plays for us on the tag or is tagged and traded, he's eventually going to do better than that TC offer. There's a reason he turned that down. 

Players that put up his pressure and FF numbers get paid. Period. He's had one "off" year due to injury and otherwise excellent stats in a league that covets his skillset and has too few players possessing of such talent.

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Go vote.

https://twitter.com/1010XL/status/1234532076193558529

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

And another great day being a Jags fan. Another young stud walking out the door. Its the complete opposite of what your supposed to be doing.

Cant fault the guy, plays well above his draft pick and salary and when it comes time to get paid we wont. We fine him for negotiating, then wonder why he wants to go to one of the other 31 teams. 

Hes 25, sitting a year isnt a huge problem for him and then its on us to get SOMETHING for him. 

This team is cursed, we cant have nice things.

So freaking pissed right now.

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He's going to get paid handsomely. And it will be better than whatever Coughlin was hardlining him with. 

I'd wager nearly anything on that.  Whether he plays for us on the tag or is tagged and traded, he's eventually going to do better than that TC offer. There's a reason he turned that down. 

Players that put up his pressure and FF numbers get paid. Period. He's had one "off" year due to injury and otherwise excellent stats in a league that covets his skillset and has too few players possessing of such talent.

Coughlin isnt here and we still cant come to terms so it's more than just an old man being out of touch.  And Yan likely isn't getting $40M more than he would receive here.  If he chooses to sit out this year, he'll most likely finish his career with less money than he would have had he just taken the original deal.

I'm betting he plays this year either for us on the tag, or with some team that gave us a nice trade deal.

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I don't give a [BLEEP] anymore. You either want to be here or you don't. We're just as miserable as the damn players. But if they trade him they better get at least a late 1st and a future 2nd or a late 1st and early 3rd for the same draft.

Frank Clark and Dee Ford commanded that from the market. And as cited earlier. Ngakoue's still 24 years old and has no history of injuries significantly hindering him, etc.

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Seems like plenty fans of other teams are clamoring for him. Please tag and trade out of the AFC

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Seems like plenty fans of other teams are clamoring for him. Please tag and trade out of the AFC

Welcome to Detroit.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I could describe my feelings about this organization, but the words would be bleeped out. I am so done.

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Miami has THREE first round picks, and no pass rush the speak of. The have close to 90 million in cap space. Taco Charlton led the team with five sacks last year. Call them, see if they are ready, able, and willing to make a trade. Something is better than nothing. 24, almost 25 year old pass rushers don't hit the market everyday. Get SOMETHING for him. Granted, Dave/Doug will screw it up ANYWAY, but.....it's still nice to go into the draft with HOPE.

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Seems like plenty fans of other teams are clamoring for him. Please tag and trade out of the AFC

Welcome to Detroit.

The cost for the Lions,  in terms of trade compensation ( assuming the Jaguars use the Franchise Tag ) and a new contract very likely would exceed the player's value.  This is even with the Lions pass rush being the most problematic facet of the team in the 2019 season.  Even including the loss of Matthew Stafford for the final 8 games,  none which the Lions ended up winning.

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Would be a very poor move from them and pretty unlikely to happen also. They have very little leeway to

I read this as his people have tried to get him to see it he doesn't have the position to get a top deal immediately. He needs to needs to understand the rules of the CBA, he can't just do what he wants. He believes he is worth top money and will not accept anything else, even if he doesn't get paid at all.

It is not a smart decision, sure the rules may not be fair for top talent, but the rules are there and agreed to by the NFLPA.

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