There's a difference between being overmatched and outcoached. Your players not being able to line up correctly isn't because you have bad players, it's because you have bad coaching.

I expect most of the games left this season the coaching will be able to hide behind inferior talent, but not all of them, and this game, against a team that doesn't have superior talent to the Jaguars, should have had Khan considering what his options are moving forward, because that game was a direct indictment on Meyer.

After one game? Really? That’s stunningly shortsighted.

Really? If nothing else Khan should make sure any trades for the rest of the season have to be approved by him. Letting Urban have GM authority was a big mistake. Can't let Urban do anything stupid with the future in case he's going to have to be sacked after one year.

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Who cares about body language, expressions etc.? What I care about is why did this team appear so woefully apathetic and uninspired?

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Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 

This is not an isolated issue.

They get an F for the off-season. Not giving them credit for Trevor Lawrence.

They get an F for running a circus in the off-season.

They get an F for the fake QB competition and the wasted preseason.

They get an F for game 1

I dont expect wins but I am tired of seeing piss poor planning, procedural penalties and dropped passes and mental errors. Give me something that looks like progress. It is too early to think it can't improve but the conduct so far isn't helping.

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The Khan Years

Patience, Persistence, and Piss Poor General Managers.

Firing Urban now makes no sense.
He should have never been hired but he should play out at least half the season.
Urban deserves more chances to show he knows what his teams' actual strengths and weaknesses are. Maybe this game was a fluke or a learning experience.

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After one game? Really? That’s stunningly shortsighted.

Really? If nothing else Khan should make sure any trades for the rest of the season have to be approved by him. Letting Urban have GM authority was a big mistake. Can't let Urban do anything stupid with the future in case he's going to have to be sacked after one year.

Agreed.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

There's no patience anymore. 

Could you imagine this fanbase in 1989? They would have run JJ out of Dallas.

Armchair GMs gonna armchair.

And yet more often than not, the Armchair GMs are right......

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After one game? Really? That’s stunningly shortsighted.

Really? If nothing else Khan should make sure any trades for the rest of the season have to be approved by him. Letting Urban have GM authority was a big mistake. Can't let Urban do anything stupid with the future in case he's going to have to be sacked after one year.

This isn’t fantasy football.

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Armchair GMs gonna armchair.

And yet more often than not, the Armchair GMs are right......

Says the armchair GM. The irony.

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Really? If nothing else Khan should make sure any trades for the rest of the season have to be approved by him. Letting Urban have GM authority was a big mistake. Can't let Urban do anything stupid with the future in case he's going to have to be sacked after one year.

This isn’t fantasy football.

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And yet more often than not, the Armchair GMs are right......

Says the armchair GM. The irony.

How's that ironic? lol That was literally the point.

When it comes to this team, myself and others have been right more often than the actual GMs and coaches. Starting Wingard? Yea... That was brilliant. Chaisson and Henderson? Woo boy that was good!

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Really? If nothing else Khan should make sure any trades for the rest of the season have to be approved by him. Letting Urban have GM authority was a big mistake. Can't let Urban do anything stupid with the future in case he's going to have to be sacked after one year.

This isn’t fantasy football.

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And yet more often than not, the Armchair GMs are right......

Says the armchair GM. The irony.

I don't even know what you mean. I just think Khan needs to make sure he doesn't have a Bill O'Brien situation happen. Nothing Meyer has done so far indicates he's got the chops for leading an NFL team, I just think Khan should make sure he doesn't do anything disastrous, even if he doesn't, no owner should give carte blanche to a coach.

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This isn’t fantasy football.

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Says the armchair GM. The irony.

How's that ironic? lol That was literally the point.

When it comes to this team, myself and others have been right more often than the actual GMs and coaches. Starting Wingard? Yea... That was brilliant. Chaisson and Henderson? Woo boy that was good!

This isn’t fantasy football.

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Says the armchair GM. The irony.

I don't even know what you mean. I just think Khan needs to make sure he doesn't have a Bill O'Brien situation happen. Nothing Meyer has done so far indicates he's got the chops for leading an NFL team, I just think Khan should make sure he doesn't do anything disastrous, even if he doesn't, no owner should give carte blanche to a coach.

The point I’m trying to make is you guys are making judgement calls after one game. Give it time to develop. After 5 or 6 games and it still looks like a Gus Bradley train wreck, then by all means start considering slash and burn. Until that happens, it’s useless to prognosticate doom and gloom.

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How's that ironic? lol That was literally the point.

When it comes to this team, myself and others have been right more often than the actual GMs and coaches. Starting Wingard? Yea... That was brilliant. Chaisson and Henderson? Woo boy that was good!

I don't even know what you mean. I just think Khan needs to make sure he doesn't have a Bill O'Brien situation happen. Nothing Meyer has done so far indicates he's got the chops for leading an NFL team, I just think Khan should make sure he doesn't do anything disastrous, even if he doesn't, no owner should give carte blanche to a coach.

The point I’m trying to make is you guys are making judgement calls after one game. Give it time to develop. After 5 or 6 games and it still looks like a Gus Bradley train wreck, then by all means start considering slash and burn. Until that happens, it’s useless to prognosticate doom and gloom.

I understand completely where you're coming from but I think my main point is that this was the worst team the Jags will face all season.

If the defense is getting torched by Tyrod Taylor, imagine what it'll look like against literally any other QB this season. This should have been the best possible to start for Urban and yet, we got blown out. Maybe he does turn this franchise around like Jimmy Johnson..... Can't wait to find out.

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How's that ironic? lol That was literally the point.

When it comes to this team, myself and others have been right more often than the actual GMs and coaches. Starting Wingard? Yea... That was brilliant. Chaisson and Henderson? Woo boy that was good!

I don't even know what you mean. I just think Khan needs to make sure he doesn't have a Bill O'Brien situation happen. Nothing Meyer has done so far indicates he's got the chops for leading an NFL team, I just think Khan should make sure he doesn't do anything disastrous, even if he doesn't, no owner should give carte blanche to a coach.

The point I’m trying to make is you guys are making judgement calls after one game. Give it time to develop. After 5 or 6 games and it still looks like a Gus Bradley train wreck, then by all means start considering slash and burn. Until that happens, it’s useless to prognosticate doom and gloom.

I didn't say fire the guy, I said take precautions against him possibly making the future worse.

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This isn’t fantasy football.

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Says the armchair GM. The irony.

How's that ironic? lol That was literally the point.

When it comes to this team, myself and others have been right more often than the actual GMs and coaches. Starting Wingard? Yea... That was brilliant. Chaisson and Henderson? Woo boy that was good!

I notice that fljagator dude hasn't made any comments on C.J.'s Matador act out there yesterday. Guess seeing his crush pull his usual gutless play stye out was too much to bear.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The point I’m trying to make is you guys are making judgement calls after one game. Give it time to develop. After 5 or 6 games and it still looks like a Gus Bradley train wreck, then by all means start considering slash and burn. Until that happens, it’s useless to prognosticate doom and gloom.

I didn't say fire the guy, I said take precautions against him possibly making the future worse.

Owner is running this thing into the ground again. Too patient with original hires. To excited for an untested hire and retention of a also ran GM. No way unproven guy should have final say and act like he had nothing to do with the off season circus. 

I dont expect a playoff team but I don't expect uncoverd WRs on pre-snap having a linebacker run out to cover at the last minute. Gaff upon gaff without leadership.

It can get better but this is just a waste of our time.

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The Khan Years

Patience, Persistence, and Piss Poor General Managers.

I will root for Meyer to succeed, but it seems like he keeps making really bad choices. This isn’t hindsight driven clarity. These are things that seemed like glaringly poor moves in the moment.

Keeping an underwhelming OL/ coach together with minimal competition.
Flat FA despite ample resources
Poor use of premium draft selections (ETN and Campbell)
The Tebow BS
QB competition…
Trading Schobert, Oliver, Minshew, and Jones for minimal capital in return
Cutting Wilson for Wingard
Minimal use of priority waiver claim
Starting Wingard
Not emphasizing the run with a rookie qb making his first start.

I feel like I am not even remembering everything. Hopefully they come out looking like geniuses by the end of next year. At this point their master plan amounts to us getting our [BLEEP] whooped by the Texans.

To me it looks like he is just overwhelmed at the controls and pressing random buttons.

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My first impression after watching this game...

I don't think we win a game this season.  Not with that train wreck that we saw yesterday.  The Jaguars looked like a AA college team trying to compete at the NFL level.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

When you think about it, after all the hand-wringing about Trevor "struggling," he was actually the best player on the field for the Jaguars yesterday. That shows how terrible everyone else was.

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I'm curious to see how the staff adjusts for this next game. If I see two things, less penalties and a more balanced offense, I'll be satisfied more positive changes are coming. Those are two items on our long list of deficiencies that can be fixed posthaste. Better defensive play would be nice but that's going to take more than a week to fix.

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My first impression after watching this game...

I don't think we win a game this season.  Not with that train wreck that we saw yesterday.  The Jaguars looked like a AA college team trying to compete at the NFL level.

If they continue to play like that, I agree. I would think they have to improve though given the low bar to start.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

When you think about it, after all the hand-wringing about Trevor "struggling," he was actually the best player on the field for the Jaguars yesterday.  That shows how terrible everyone else was.

No doubt. He is the least of our worries. We just need to keep him healthy.

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I'm curious to see how the staff adjusts for this next game. If I see two things, less penalties and a more balanced offense, I'll be satisfied more positive changes are coming. Those are two items on our long list of deficiencies that can be fixed posthaste. Better defensive play would be nice but that's going to take more than a week to fix.

Agree 100%.  The come out and throw it all over the place approach to offense will never work in the NFL.  Having somewhat of a run game is important.  Also, it's not so much the penalties... it's the STUPID penalties that kill drives and progress.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.