Urban would accept the job, convince everyone to draft Fields, then once he realizes his mistake get an ailment and leave. He then would accept the HC job at Texas..I can't believe anyone is seriously considering this guy.  Well maybe a fool...

Lotta bitter Gator fans in this forum, lol. It's been a long time bro. Time to move on.

Yeah, I'm a Gator fan and kinda gave up that grudge awhile back.

However, I don't want him for basically all the other reasons. Health concerns, his history with "bad" people, his general personality -- the alpha type that perhaps would want to be HC/GM or would be hired before a GM and pick his own yes man.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Offensive or defensive minded doesn't make any difference in a good head coach.  He just needs to choose the right coordinators.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

0-7 post season record. If it was defensive coordinator though would be a different story

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There's no way I would give the keys to this franchise to a retread like Jim Caldwell or Marvin Lewis, or probably any other retread. Robert Saleh, and all defensive minded guys, are off my list. I want an offensive mind to teach and mentor Trevor Lawrence. None of that get a defensive mind, strong team leader, then let him give all the offense to an offensive minded guru. No to Urban Meyer and Lincoln Riley. An unlikely maybe to Joe Brady or Eric Bieniemy, the Jags can do better. Brian Daboll and Arthur Smith are intriguing, but I'd prefer Matt Campbell over those two. My swing for the fences call would be to Dabo Swinney since he is a proven winner and has had a good run with Lawrence. When he says no thanks I'd call Matt Campbell, and if no go there I'd go with either Daboll or Smith (whomever had the better interview)

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Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

0-7 post season record.  If it was defensive coordinator though would be a different story

I hear ya. I'm very skeptical of him too, because he doesn't have any particular scheme or style that stands out. But he had a great eye for coordinators, and talent his first few years. They also did a good job of developing guys at the beginning of that run. 

My thing is that how in the other thread, I posted a list of past "retreads" who just didn't meet expectations at their first stop. But got to and or won a SB at their second job. Of any of the retread candidates, he seems the most likely to pull that off.

Well, him and McDaniels. But I don't think McDaniels is leaving New England.

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There's no way I would give the keys to this franchise to a retread like Jim Caldwell or Marvin Lewis, or probably any other retread. Robert Saleh, and all defensive minded guys, are off my list. I want an offensive  mind to teach and mentor Trevor Lawrence. None of that get a defensive mind, strong team leader, then let him give all the offense to an offensive minded guru. No to Urban Meyer and Lincoln Riley. An unlikely maybe to Joe Brady or Eric Bieniemy, the Jags can do better. Brian Daboll and Arthur Smith are intriguing, but I'd prefer Matt Campbell over those two. My seeing for the fences call would be Dabo Swinney since he is a proven winner and has had a good run with Lawrence. When he says no thanks I'd call Matt Campbell, and if no go there I'd go with either Daboll or Smith (whomever had the better interview)

I understand that mentality. It the current en vogue one around the NFL a la Arizona, 49ers, Rams, Panthers, etc. 

Having said that, the time it has worked with Super Bowl win in the past 10-15 years was like Payton with Brees. You could maybe give McVeigh a pass with the Rams, but they had every opportunity to beat the Patriots but got bottled up in the SB rematch. I guess Arians got there in Arizona with Warner, but also couldn't overcome the Steelers.

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There's no way I would give the keys to this franchise to a retread like Jim Caldwell or Marvin Lewis, or probably any other retread. Robert Saleh, and all defensive minded guys, are off my list. I want an offensive  mind to teach and mentor Trevor Lawrence. None of that get a defensive mind, strong team leader, then let him give all the offense to an offensive minded guru. No to Urban Meyer and Lincoln Riley. An unlikely maybe to Joe Brady or Eric Bieniemy, the Jags can do better. Brian Daboll and Arthur Smith are intriguing, but I'd prefer Matt Campbell over those two. My swing for the fences call would be to Dabo Swinney since he is a proven winner and has had a good run with Lawrence. When he says no thanks I'd call Matt Campbell, and if no go there I'd go with either Daboll or Smith (whomever had the better interview)

The [BLEEP] is with you guys wanting to sign college coaches with zero NFL experience?

Bienemy is the beat coaching candidate out there this year.  We can't do better

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There's no way I would give the keys to this franchise to a retread like Jim Caldwell or Marvin Lewis, or probably any other retread. Robert Saleh, and all defensive minded guys, are off my list. I want an offensive  mind to teach and mentor Trevor Lawrence. None of that get a defensive mind, strong team leader, then let him give all the offense to an offensive minded guru. No to Urban Meyer and Lincoln Riley. An unlikely maybe to Joe Brady or Eric Bieniemy, the Jags can do better. Brian Daboll and Arthur Smith are intriguing, but I'd prefer Matt Campbell over those two. My swing for the fences call would be to Dabo Swinney since he is a proven winner and has had a good run with Lawrence. When he says no thanks I'd call Matt Campbell, and if no go there I'd go with either Daboll or Smith (whomever had the better interview)

The [BLEEP] is with you guys wanting to sign college coaches with zero NFL experience?

Bienemy is the beat coaching candidate out there this year.  We can't do better

What makes Bieniemy the best candidate? His poor offense at Colorado when he was the OC there and called plays? He is not the play caller for KC, and has a loaded offensive juggernaut that is run by the proven offensive mastermind Andy Reid. I'm not saying Bieniemy does not contribute in KC but I don't think he contribute enough to give him the spoils that this team will have in several days.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

Lewis is the poster boy of mediocrity

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Im kinda leaning toward Brian Daboll as my top HC candidate. His resume is crazy good with the championship experience and what he was able to do with Josh Allen and that Bills offense.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Offensive or defensive minded doesn't make any difference in a good head coach.  He just needs to choose the right coordinators.

I wouldn't want Lewis or Smith as coordinators. Lewis especially. I endured him for many years here in the Cincinnati area. His teams showed no discipline. He let the players run wild on an off the field and never held them accountable for anything. They were always getting in trouble and Lewis did nothing. He was so wishy-washy. There were rumblings that Smith's teams were the same way. I definitely don't want another drill sergeant like Tom Coughlin, but I want coaches and coordinators who will hold players accountable for their actions and at least, expect them to act like grown men.

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Not Marvin Lewis or Lovie Smith. Smith couldn't even last in college. I don't want them as coordinators or even position coaches. I want an offensive minded head coach anyway. Martindale is just not a fit for this team.

Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

I live in the Cincinnati area. He was coach of the Bengals for many years and he "let the criminals run the asylum." "Pacman" Jones and Vontaze Burfict were always getting into trouble on and off the field. They weren't the only ones either. Marvin Lewis never held them accountable for anything. It was an embarrassment.

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Im kinda leaning toward Brian Daboll as my top HC candidate.  His resume is crazy good with the championship experience and what he was able to do with Josh Allen and that Bills offense.

He's definitely in my top 3 with Bieniemy and Arthur Smith.

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Offensive or defensive minded doesn't make any difference in a good head coach.  He just needs to choose the right coordinators.

I wouldn't want Lewis or Smith as coordinators. Lewis especially. I endured him for many years here in the Cincinnati area. His teams showed no discipline. He let the players run wild on an off the field and never held them accountable for anything. They were always getting in trouble and Lewis did nothing. He was so wishy-washy. There were rumblings that Smith's teams were the same way. I definitely don't want another drill sergeant like Tom Coughlin, but I want coaches and coordinators who will hold players accountable for their actions and at least, expect them to act like grown men.

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Curious what you have against Marvin Lewis?

I live in the Cincinnati area. He was coach of the Bengals for many years and he "let the criminals run the asylum." "Pacman" Jones and Vontaze Burfict were always getting into trouble on and off the field. They weren't the only ones either. Marvin Lewis never held them accountable for anything. It was an embarrassment.

That makes sense. Definitely don't want bad culture again.

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Definitley want an offensive minded head coach. I don’t want some defensive coach who will try and control the offense, make it 3 yards and a cloud of dust and brainwash Trevor into being scared to take chances on offense.

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Daboll outcoaching BB

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Hey Guys....you miss me lol?

Anyway, any chance Jags can land Bill Belichick for HC. Trevor Lawrence would be his Tomy Brady. I would love to see this.

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Im kinda leaning toward Brian Daboll as my top HC candidate.  His resume is crazy good with the championship experience and what he was able to do with Josh Allen and that Bills offense.

Very good choice. I really like him.

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You all watching the Bill's offense. We need their OC. Have to trade rb Robinson cus dont nee him. Passing the ball is where its at.

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