If that is the case.  How come tebow never developed and blaine and countless others.  It is easy in situations with plenty of time to change stuff.  Against blitzing teams will resort back to what has done forever. 

 

 

Tebow did develop his throwing motion decently but the guy was shut out of the NFL at that point because of the media circus he brings. Teams don't want that for a guy whose ceiling is what you've pretty much seen. You have to literally build your roster around him and it's not worth it for the marginal talent he brings. 

 

Blaine Gabbert doesn't have the football IQ to be a franchise QB. For him it's less about the way he throws than having the balls to make plays and actually spin the rock downfield. He's just a check down guy and you can find those guys everywhere.  When the big stage comes up and the lights go on he vanishes. 

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If that is the case. How come tebow never developed and blaine and countless others.

Did Tebow, Gabbert or any of your countless others throw for 4000 yards and 35 TDs in their second year?


You'll forgive me if I give the guy that actually did that a bit more confidence.


He showed progress -then regressed.


He can show progress again.

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Did Tebow, Gabbert or any of your countless others throw for 4000 yards and 35 TDs in their second year?


You'll forgive me if I give the guy that actually did that a bit more confidence.


He showed progress -then regressed.


He can show progress again.

 

That is true slipped my mind.  

 

How a great qb gets over 3000 yards

off of prevent d in the late third/ 4th quarter. 

 

 

But honestly all kidding aside. 

If he turns it around that's awesome. 

If he doesn't or is replaced. I don't blame anyone. 

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So here's the thing. Yo Boy thinks Bradshaw is just 'making excuses', and clearly doesn't have any more insight into the reality than Yo Boy does. Hey, what does this Terry Bradshaw guy (4× Super Bowl champion, 2× Super Bowl MVP, 3× Pro Bowl, First-team All-Pro, NFL Most Valuable Player, Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year, 2× NFL passing touchdowns leader, NFL 1970s All-Decade Team) know about quarterbacks, am I right? Especially when compared to the gut feeling of Yo Boy (...).


But a disgruntled college football blogger with an axe to grind about E J Manuel, complete with stats showing that Chris Weinke, Rick Mirer, Brandon Weeden, Ken Dorsey and Ryan Tannehill are better than Peyton Manning? That's enough to change the way he thinks about Doug Marrone.


When you've got double standards like that, it gets increasingly painfully obvious where you're coming from.

First and Foremost Terry Bradshaw opinion of Bortles is no better then mines..I'm pretty sure he haven't seen every game of Bortles...I have! Just because he have good accolades doesn't mean he have a good points!



I'm assuming u referring to my Marrone thread, when you were reference the college blogger... That doesn't have anything to do with this topic.. If you wanna discuss that, we can go to the appropriate thread...

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If that is the case.  How come tebow never developed and blaine and countless others.  It is easy in situations with plenty of time to change stuff.  Against blitzing teams will resort back to what has done forever. 

 

You all act like Brady was trash from day one.  

 

And Mrs. Jaguars stop attacking me cause you feel your a true fan.  Yet share your time with other teams.  

 

Cheating on the Jaguars isn't cool. 

 

Tebow and Gabbert are not comparable to each other or Bortles. You should know that after watching all three quarterbacks play.

 

Serious question: Why do you think accusing me of "cheating on the Jaguars" (which is impossible for me to do) is acceptable behavior on the forum?

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First and Foremost Terry Bradshaw opinion of Bortles is no better then mines..

 

Um, yeah... about that...

 

It kinda is.

 

As in, is entirely better than yourses.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Did Tebow, Gabbert or any of your countless others throw for 4000 yards and 35 TDs in their second year?


You'll forgive me if I give the guy that actually did that a bit more confidence.


He showed progress -then regressed.


He can show progress again.

 

Finally someone known for negativity says this about Blake Bortles. His passing yardage total that season was 4,428 - more than Tom Brady. The 35 passing TDs tied NFL MVP Cam Newton. The only QB with more TDs, of course, was Brady with 37. Anybody who thinks Blake can't go back to that level either did not watch him play in 2015 or does not know much about football.

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Blake was horrendous this season and threw 600 yards and 12 touchdowns less. 600 yards is pretty much two games and his touchdown numbers are inflated since we have zero run game.


So why anyone actually thinks those numbers from last season validate him being good is beyond me


The best blake weve seen statistically is 600 yards more than the dumpster fire of this season, the numbers dont matter.

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Blake was horrendous this season and threw 600 yards and 12 touchdowns less. 600 yards is pretty much two games and his touchdown numbers are inflated since we have zero run game.


So why anyone actually thinks those numbers from last season validate him being good is beyond me.

 

NYC's post makes perfect sense if you actually think while reading it. If a player has done it before and is only one year older since then, he obviously is able to do it now.

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NYC's post makes perfect sense if you actually think while reading it. If a player has done it before and is only one year older since then, he obviously is able to do it now.

What im saying is that the numbers from last year doesnt actually mean hes ever been a good quarterback or hes shown anything to suggest he will be a good one in the future. His dumpster fire performance if this year was only slightly less than his "franchise qb" numbers so im not sure why we think they make him good.

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So why anyone actually thinks those numbers from last season validate him being good is beyond me


 

 

The numbers from 2015 don't validate him as being good. They validate that he's shown the ability to improve his crap mechanics before.  

 

They weren't great in 2015 but they got better from his rookie year and allowed some quality production through the air. 

 

If he improved his mechanics once and then regressed  --  why would it be such a stretch for him to make improvements again? 

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Honestly Bortles doesn't even have to fix his mechanics all the way. At the very least if he needs to be sloppy just be like Matt Stafford side-arm sloppy which I actually noticed he started doing after the Detroit game. All guys don't throw the same way. They just need to find a way to meet BB in the middle without it hurting him or the team. 

You don't really want what Stafford does either, he just gets away with it a lot because he has perhaps the best pure arm talent in the league. He is more or less this generations Favre.

 

Blake with Matt Stafford sloppiness would be the same ol' trainwreck cause Blake's arm isn't in the same realm. 

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Tebow and Gabbert are not comparable to each other or Bortles. You should know that after watching all three quarterbacks play.


Serious question: Why do you think accusing me of "cheating on the Jaguars" (which is impossible for me to do) is acceptable behavior on the forum?

Because it is in fact truth. I bleed Teal or #DTWD


You bleed Jags, Packers,Broncos.


That is infact cheating on the Jaguars. Mrs. Split time.

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The numbers from 2015 don't validate him as being good. They validate that he's shown the ability to improve his crap mechanics before.  

 

They weren't great in 2015 but they got better from his rookie year and allowed some quality production through the air. 

 

If he improved his mechanics once and then regressed  --  why would it be such a stretch for him to make improvements again? 

 

How are 4,428 yards and 35 TDs not great numbers? Blake Bortles may not have been a great QB in 2015 by your definition, but those are great numbers.

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How are 4,428 yards and 35 TDs not great numbers? Blake Bortles may not have been a great QB in 2015 by your definition, but those are great numbers.

 I said his mechanics weren't great in 2015  -  not his numbers. 

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 I said his mechanics weren't great in 2015  -  not his numbers. 

 

That makes sense. It was his first full season as the starting QB.

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I said his mechanics weren't great in 2015 - not his numbers.

His numbers against the patriots was pathetic. And they were the only team who never let up.


So if all the teams did the exact same. Then what?


Should we add that Blake not once has a QB rating 80 percent. Not one game.

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His numbers against the patriots was pathetic. And they were the only team who never let up.


So if all the teams did the exact same. Then what?


Should we add that Blake not once has a QB rating 80 percent. Not one game.

 

If I could make any sense out of whatever the hell you're going on about I'd answer.  

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His numbers against the patriots was pathetic. And they were the only team who never let up.


So if all the teams did the exact same. Then what?


Should we add that Blake not once has a QB rating 80 percent. Not one game.

 

There is no such thing as a QBR of 80% because that statistic is not a percentage. If you want to convince me you know more than I do about football, figure out what a QBR is.

 

And why on Earth do you think it is even possible for 13 teams do to the exact same thing to Blake Bortles? It obviously is not because they are all totally different.

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There is no such thing as a QBR of 80% because that statistic is not a percentage. If you want to convince me you know more than I do about football, figure out what a QBR is.

 

Just an aside, but the QBR rating is proprietary, meaning that the formula to calculate it is unknown.  Me personally have seen way to many silly stats that it produces to take the QBR seriously.  I think QB rating is closer on the whole, as it takes in percentage and average distance.  It also rewards to TDs and penalizes for interceptions.

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