Lee is a proven NFL WR who knows the offense and fits in the locker room. He's a good blocker, which is key for the run game. Don't forget how many years the Jags tried to find even 1 quality WR, and how they were down to rookies last year at one point. I'm okay with keeping Lee. Hurns, too - it's not my money.

Plus, more flexibility in the draft. They don't have to reach for a WR.

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What a terrible deal. Let Arob walk and sign MR 8 and 3. I'm not liking this move.

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Lee is our best WR with ARob gone

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Don't like this deal

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Rotoworld has our WR as

Lee
Westbrook
Cole
Moncrief
Hurns

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To put moncrief over lee westbrook is stupid..

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Also I expect jags to trade Allen Hurns or cut him.. Then make Jayden Mickens and Rashad Greene the 5th and 6th WR..

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Trade Allen Hurns and 29th pick to sandieago chargers 1st round draft pick then select will hernandez.. Chargers looking hard at this guy according to many sources.. We need this guy Hes a beast..

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Trade Allen Hurns and 29th pick to sandieago chargers 1st round draft pick then select will hernandez.. Chargers looking hard at this guy according to many sources.. We need this guy Hes a beast..

So why in the world would they want Hurns over him?

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I am OK with this, but if you had to choose between AC and Lee, I would have tried my best to get Colvin back. Maybe he wanted to start outside somewhere, oh well. Hopefully Lee can right his ill timed drops and he can continue to improve.

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Lee is not even a top 30 Receiver last year. I mean geez, the guys cannot catch to save his life.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

No one is trading for Hurns' production the past two years or his accrued concussions and they're definitely not trading for him before this Friday to save the Jags from having to cut him or restructure him. You might be able to trade him on Madden though.

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What a terrible deal.  Let Arob walk and sign MR 8 and 3. I'm not liking this move.

Arob didn't want to be here. Get over it...

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You conveniently left out Lee has nearly 600 more yards as well.  This isn't close.  And it's not hard to see, either.

Lee is becoming Hurns prior to Hurns injuries.  Hurns is becoming what Lee was when Lee was hurt.  Their paths are taking opposite directions.

In 500+ snaps and 70+ targets.  You forgot to provide the context to the stats above, which is important.

You said he was being phased out , which would imply the team is actively putting Lee over him. When in reality Hurns has just been injured. He hasn't been phased out.

Based on everything we've seen so far Hurns has been inarguably more productive and valuable than Lee.

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Why are we arguing between two incredibly average overpaid WRs?

And yes both are overpaid.

I agree both are incredibly average and neither is actually worth $9+ plus mil, but I still say Hurns is better than Lee because I trust my eyes over stats. With that in mind, Hurns should be making slightly more than Lee and he is. Hurns shouldn't have to take a dime less. 

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No one is trading for Hurns' production the past two years or his accrued concussions and they're definitely not trading for him before this Friday to save the Jags from having to cut him or restructure him.  You might be able to trade him on Madden though.

To be fair, I said the same thing about Gabbert.. .and well.. they got a pick for him. Maybe for Hurns, who knows.

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Assuming we truly sign Moncrief - he, Cole, Westbrook, and Lee will be our top 4.

Hurns is likely to be released if not restructured.

Talk about "more productive and valuable..."

At the 5th spot, maybe.

I can see Moncrief and Westbrook brawling for the start at the #1WR spot(split-end) with the loser backing him up. Cole and Lee would do the same at the #2 WR spot (flanker) ...and then Hurns likely takes over the slot WR role with Mickens backing him as the PR.

I imagine Greene and Wynn will challenge Mickens for his spot but good luck... Mickens is pretty darn good on returns. It looks like including the PR we're going to carry six WRs now which may mean one less RB... As in 4Net, Grant and  Yeldon may be it along with the FB.

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Assuming we truly sign Moncrief - he, Cole, Westbrook, and Lee will be our top 4.

Hurns is likely to be released if not restructured.

Talk about "more productive and valuable..."

At the 5th spot, maybe.

I can see Moncrief and Westbrook brawling for the start at the #1WR spot(split-end) with the loser backing him up. Cole and Lee would do the same at the #2 WR spot (flanker) ...and then Hurns likely takes over the slot WR role with Mickens backing him as the PR.

I imagine Greene and Wynn will challenge Mickens for his spot but good luck... Mickens is pretty darn good on returns. It looks like including the PR we're going to carry six WRs now which may mean one less RB... As in 4Net, Grant and  Yeldon may be it along with the FB.

Why would you want a 178 pound receiver that has shown little ability to beat press coverage playing the X? 
 That's the receiver position that has to beat the jam at the L.O.S. the most. He faces more press and man-to-man coverage than any other receiver. And you want to put an underweight speedster there?  I don't see that as a wise move. 

The Z position (flanker) allows the receiver to untether from the L.O.S. , go in motion, and basically use his speed without having to constantly beat press coverage. This is where Westbrook shines. 

The looks at split end should go to Moncreif, Lee and a hopefully bulked up Cole.  

They'll obviously move guys around as they did quite a bit last season, but unless they know they are getting zone or "off" coverage I don't think they will line up Westbrook at split end.

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Good grief.  Some of you clearly like to argue just for the sake of it.  Hurns may be able to bounce back, but you don't pay someone for what they did two years ago.  Especially when he already got paid for what he did two years ago.  His last two seasons say resoundingly he isn't worth $7 mil right now.  If he wants to play on a 1 year prove it deal for $3 or 4 mil, fine.  But I think that ship has sailed here with the Lee and Moncrief signings.

Typically I'd agree about focusing on recent years, but it's not that easy. Hurns has proven his toughness that he'll battle through anything but last year's injury was too much and he missed games. Lee has nearly as many since they were drafted. I understand Lee put up more stats recently, but last year we couldn't really judge them at all on the deeper routes because Blake's arm was shot after the Bears game. With all of that said, we all know that Hurns was day and night better than Lee back in 2015, and there's every reason to think that if he's able to stay healthy, he'll reestablish himself as clearly better.

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Signed Norwell, Crief and Lee..... but it would have been breaking the bank to pay ARob?

I’m not saying I would have kept ARob but so many people complained about the salary cap for future guys. Now it’s suddenly ok?

I think Robinson not getting done was more than just money.

I don't know... we're now having to pay Lee and Moncrief more combined than we'd have had to pay Robinson when this team would have been light-years better off with just Robinson. ARob being signed would have also allowed us to keep 5 WRs, and now we pretty much have to keep 6 which means one less valuable roster spot. 

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Cap should be ok for now. We had $26 mil before the league increase; so should have been $36 mil +/-. We still are good. I think.... lol

They've been including the roll-over money all along, and there's never been any kind of league increase unless you're talking about the natural year-to-year increase, but that's long been included in the numbers. Going into free agency we were $29 mil under, but we've since signed Norwell, Lee and Moncrief. ...and Wynn, but he's probably minimum wage. Just keep in mind you don't subtract their entire yearly average because first-year cap hits are almost always a bit less. 

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'02

I can see Moncrief and Westbrook brawling for the start at the #1WR spot(split-end) with the loser backing him up. Cole and Lee would do the same at the #2 WR spot (flanker) ...and then Hurns likely takes over the slot WR role with Mickens backing him as the PR.

I imagine Greene and Wynn will challenge Mickens for his spot but good luck... Mickens is pretty darn good on returns. It looks like including the PR we're going to carry six WRs now which may mean one less RB... As in 4Net, Grant and  Yeldon may be it along with the FB.

Why would you want a 178 pound receiver that has shown little ability to beat press coverage playing the X? 
 That's the receiver position that has to beat the jam at the L.O.S. the most. He faces more press and man-to-man coverage than any other receiver. And you want to put an underweight speedster there?  I don't see that as a wise move. 

The Z position (flanker) allows the receiver to untether from the L.O.S. , go in motion, and basically use his speed without having to constantly beat press coverage. This is where Westbrook shines. 

The looks at split end should go to Moncreif, Lee and a hopefully bulked up Cole.  

They'll obviously move guys around as they did quite a bit last season, but unless they know they are getting zone or "off" coverage I don't think they will line up Westbrook at split end.

Maybe I have Cole and Westbrook mixed up. I was thinking Westbrook was starting out there this past season.

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'02

What a terrible deal.  Let Arob walk and sign MR 8 and 3. I'm not liking this move.

Arob didn't want to be here. Get over it...

That's my take. Arob didn't wanna be here and colvin wanted to be here but he wanted a shot to play on the outside more.

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