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Jags looking to trade depth


Quote:So we can now start threads on rumors and speculations. Got it..
You can start threads about whatever you want... as long as it pertains to the particular forum you are posting in.

And follows the TOC and what not...

 

it's pretty simple but... common core and what not...

no child left behind...

 

it's OK.

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Quote:What OL depth are you getting from Marks? People aren't just giving away a good OL for someone that we would potentially cut in that scenario.
Yea if Marks is trading it will be for a draft pick, not for some trash OL guy

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Quote:No way Marks is getting cut. I just don't see it. Day is safe too. Most likely Bennett.
 

 

Agreed, especially on Sheldon Day.


 

I can't imagine this team keeping a 6th DT with roster spots at such a premium. It comes down to making a choice and keeping Marks or Bennett as a 5th DT. I have to think Marks has the edge on the roster over Bennett unless they're thinking about Bennett being six years younger. With all of this in mind, Caldwell is very likely actively shopping Sen'Derrick. Don't be surprised if we suddenly hear of him being traded for say a 5th round pick.


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Quote:So we can now start threads on rumors and speculations. Got it..


Yeah. This is probably the first time it's happened...EVER.
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Quote:Yeah. This is probably the first time it's happened...EVER.
 

 

Especially during the off-season. Leading up to Free Agency and the Draft....nothing but facts.

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Quote:Alualu might be the most underwhelming player in Jags history. I have never seen him make a big play in his career, aside from the occasional coverage sack. I often notice him getting pushed aside against the run, or completely stonewalled trying to rush the passer, otherwise I wouldn't even know he was on the field.

No way should we trade Marks, the heart and soul of this defense for a long stretch, and keep the perpetually below average alualu. Tyson brings absolutely nothing to the defense.
 


 

Agreed on Alualu. Until recently after realizing Woodard is on the PUP and that there is no other backup strongside DE on the roster, I had Alualu landing on the waiver wire. It now looks like he's making the roster to provide depth behind Odrick, but I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if he fails to do so. Sen'Derrick Marks is easily a better player than Tyson Alualu, and Michael Bennett for that matter, and Marks should be kept over either unless they are able to find some draft comp for him.


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Quote:@alexmarvez As referenced by @MarkdominikESPN, on @SIRIUSXM NFL, @Jaguars so deep at some spots (DL/TEs) team hopes to trade depth at end of preseason


Hmmmmmm interesting.
 

At TE I don't see where it's really possible unless we're talking Marcedes Lewis.  I kind of doubt a trade scenario for him based on his age and current contract.

 

At DL the only possibility that stands out is Alualu.  He's only listed once on the current depth chart and would be the only one that might have some trade value.  Behind him on the depth chart (at DE) is Marks, but Marks is also listed in the second string (DT) behind a rookie.  I can't see giving up versatility and depending on a rookie to last throughout the season.



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Agreed on Alualu. Until recently after realizing Woodard is on the PUP and that there is no other backup strongside DE on the roster, I had Alualu landing on the waiver wire. It now looks like he's making the roster to provide depth behind Odrick, but I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if he fails to do so. Sen'Derrick Marks is easily a better player than Tyson Alualu, and Michael Bennett for that matter, and Marks should be kept over either unless they are able to find some draft comp for him.


 
 

I heard Gus mention that they are cross-training some of the 3-Techs at the big end spot, specifically mentioning Marks.  I get the sense that they like both young guys in Bennett and Day.  It would not surprise me to see them move Marks or one of the young guys into a rotational role with Odrick.  Alualu is going to have competition for that role.  

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Quote:You can start threads about whatever you want... as long as it pertains to the particular forum you are posting in.

And follows the TOC and what not...


it's pretty simple but... common core and what not...

no child left behind...


it's OK.


Noo. Actually i have had threads remove that were pretty similar to this one.. Speculation and rumors.. Buts its cool.. I know how it is ..
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Quote:Alualu might be the most underwhelming player in Jags history. I have never seen him make a big play in his career, aside from the occasional coverage sack. I often notice him getting pushed aside against the run, or completely stonewalled trying to rush the passer, otherwise I wouldn't even know he was on the field.

No way should we trade Marks, the heart and soul of this defense for a long stretch, and keep the perpetually below average alualu. Tyson brings absolutely nothing to the defense.
 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...son-Alualu

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...r-16-yards

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...o-s-fumble

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...Alualu-INT

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0a...11-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-2-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-3-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0a...10-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...own-failed

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-7-yd-loss

 

 

Probably his career highlight reel, but there have been "some" moments.

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Quote:Noo. Actually i have had threads remove that were pretty simple to this one.. Speculation and rumors.. Buts its cool.. I know how it is ..
 

I am curious to know how it is...........

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Quote:I am curious to know how it is...........
 

It should be clear.  His/her threads are "simple to this one".



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Quote:It should be clear.  His/her threads are "simple to this one".
 

Yes, but I am interested in knowing the degree of which his thread was simple to this one.

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Quote:Yes, but I am interested in knowing the degree of which his thread was simple to this one.
yea yea yea.. Phone typo.. Continue...
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Quote:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...son-Alualu

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...r-16-yards

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...o-s-fumble

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highl...Alualu-INT

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0a...11-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-2-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-3-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0a...10-yd-loss

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...own-failed

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09...-7-yd-loss

 

 

Probably his career highlight reel, but there have been "some" moments.
 

 

Indeed these 10 plays do pretty much some up the extent of Alualu's success in the league. Keep in mind, however, that the former 10th overall pick has accomplished this much playing in every game over the past six seasons. In other words, he's had 10 impressive plays in 96 games playes. That's basically one big play every 10 games.


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I agree with Pirkster. He's had some moments. Has played better than some other players we've drafted that high and couldn't possibly be more underwhelming than Matt Jones whose feet turned to concrete after the combine.
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Quote:I agree with Pirkster. He's had some moments. Has played better than some other players we've drafted that high and couldn't possibly be more underwhelming than Matt Jones whose feet turned to concrete after the combine.
 

What I respect about him, and probably what's kept him around, is that he always seems to be working hard.

 

He gets flattened, and he gets back up and gives 110% on the next play.

 

If we were down big and the rest of the team was giving their half effort, he was still giving 110%.  Every play.

 

He's also played hurt, where some folks can't seem to stay on the field.

 

Complain about the pick all you want, I get it.  Regardless, the player still earns my respect.

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Quote:I agree with Pirkster. He's had some moments. Has played better than some other players we've drafted that high and couldn't possibly be more underwhelming than Matt Jones whose feet turned to concrete after the combine.
 

Nah, he had his big games and moments too.  I believe against Oakland and Baltimore.

 

Talent wasn't the problem.

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Quote:What I respect about him, and probably what's kept him around, is that he always seems to be working hard.

 

He gets flattened, and he gets back up and gives 110% on the next play.

 

If we were down big and the rest of the team was giving their half effort, he was still giving 110%.  Every play.

 

He's also played hurt, where some folks can't seem to stay on the field.

 

Complain about the pick all you want, I get it.  Regardless, the player still earns my respect.
Agreed 100%.

 

Alualu gets a whole lot of dumb hate around here, simply because of where he was drafted. Was he over drafted? Yes he probably was, but we'll never know what kind of player he actually could have been after that knee injury his rookie year.

 

Like you said, the guy played on a bum knee basically his entire first 2 seasons. I might be wrong, but didn't he get micro fracture surgery after his 2nd season?

 

I know he had some sort of knee surgery (I'm pretty sure it was a microfracture, but I'm too lazy to look it up to make sure), yet hes still never missed a game in his entire NFL career.

 

Add that onto the lack of talent he had around him, before the new front office came aboard and rebuilt. Also add in the position hes played over the past couple of seasons. The Big End which isn't a sexy number popping position regardless.

 

Alualu is a pros pro, to the fullest extent. I guarantee you he's very well respected among a whole lot of people/players in the NFL. He is what at least 80% of the NFL is made up of. The guys who aren't the super stars, they aren't in the lime light and they don't make the record breaking contract $$. Yet they never complain about what their role is. They'll do whatever they're told to do and they'll do it at an absolute 100+%, every single chance they get.

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alualu also always played with crap at the end positions and the back 7 so even if he was doing well the talent around him allowed the offense to double him more often than not.  I could see him leaving us and being a better player elsewhere.  i actually like the guy healthy or not he gives 110 and never says a bad word.  


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