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Smoot?

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I haven't heard as much as a peep about the guy since being drafted. For those who have been at practices, has anything about him stood out, either good or bad?

He's like the unknown name on the roster right now.
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(07-31-2017, 07:52 PM)Dakota Wrote: I haven't heard as much as a peep about the guy since being drafted. For those who have been at practices, has anything about him stood out, either good or bad?

He's like the unknown name on the roster right now.

Personally, I don't expect much at all. Announcers at the Senior Bowl pointed out that he didn't do much all week and he wasn't even the best pass rusher on his own Illini team. In my opinion he was the worst selection we made. We could've had Dan Feeney for God's sake! We're so deep at DE right now, I wouldn't even be surprised if he didn't make the team.
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He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.
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(07-31-2017, 08:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.

Pretty different styles of players. Smoot's much more of a traditional end and can play either weakside or strongside
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(07-31-2017, 08:35 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.

Pretty different styles of players. Smoot's much more of a traditional end and can play either weakside or strongside

Sure. On a different team. With the jags his role is pretty much big end.
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(07-31-2017, 08:00 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 07:52 PM)Dakota Wrote: I haven't heard as much as a peep about the guy since being drafted. For those who have been at practices, has anything about him stood out, either good or bad?

He's like the unknown name on the roster right now.

Personally, I don't expect much at all. Announcers at the Senior Bowl pointed out that he didn't do much all week and he wasn't even the best pass rusher on his own Illini team. In my opinion he was the worst selection we made. We could've had Dan Feeney for God's sake! We're so deep at DE right now, I wouldn't even be surprised if he didn't make the team.

Feeney is a guard made for zone blocking and we are going with more of a power scheme.  We should of drafted Pat Elflein though, the best center in the draft and moved Linder back to RG
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(This post was last modified: 07-31-2017, 08:59 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(07-31-2017, 08:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.

I don't see him as an Alualu type at all. Aluala was much bigger and was a former DT. Smoot is like 6'3" 264 lbs. which is pretty average for a DE. Personally, I like UDFA Hunter Dimick a lot more than Smoot.

(07-31-2017, 08:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:00 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Personally, I don't expect much at all. Announcers at the Senior Bowl pointed out that he didn't do much all week and he wasn't even the best pass rusher on his own Illini team. In my opinion he was the worst selection we made. We could've had Dan Feeney for God's sake! We're so deep at DE right now, I wouldn't even be surprised if he didn't make the team.

Feeney is a guard made for zone blocking and we are going with more of a power scheme.  We should of drafted Pat Elflein though, the best center in the draft and moved Linder back to RG

Feeney played very well at OT for the Hoosiers his last year in college. His versatility to play OT or OG would've been a lot more valuable than Smoot, who might not even make the team.
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The Smoot is a unit of measurement developed in 1958 at MIT. As a prank, a fraternity there grabbed one of there pledges, Oliver Smoot, one night and used him to measure the length of the Mass Ave bridge (from Cambridge to Boston near Fenway Park). They turned him end to end and kept count all the way across the Charles River.

They marked off the bridge in partial Smoots and wrote the total length at the end of the bridge. The length was 364.4 Smoots plus or minus 1 ear.

The bridge was re-done in recent years and the measurements were allowed to stay as a part of Boston lore. A couple of years ago, Oliver Smoot's grandson was accepted at MIT but chose to enroll elsewhere as he did not want to repeat the prank. Also, the word "smoot" is now listed in the American Heritage Dictionary.

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(07-31-2017, 08:37 PM)knarnn Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:35 PM)JackCity Wrote: Pretty different styles of players. Smoot's much more of a traditional end and can play either weakside or strongside

Sure. On a different team. With the jags his role is pretty much big end.
He has a bit of Reggie Hayward to his game, will be interesting to see how they align the dline up in different situations like 3rd and long. Hopefully we get a small glimpse in pre season.
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i'm also curious about what he's going to bring to the game. He's supposed to be a much more physical DE than Fowler and Ngakoue, so maybe he's not going to be able to showcase much until the real hitting in pre-season starts. Or he may just be another Renaldo Wynn type that never does anything yet Coughlin seems to like him.
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(This post was last modified: 07-31-2017, 09:28 PM by knarnn.)

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I don't see him as an Alualu type at all. Aluala was much bigger and was a former DT. Smoot is like 6'3" 264 lbs. which is pretty average for a DE. Personally, I like UDFA Hunter Dimick a lot more than Smoot.
He played light in his last year in college. He's being asked to pack the weight back on. He's expected to learn from and back up Calais Campbell at big end. 

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I saw nothing noteworthy from him during Saturday's practice.
 

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(07-31-2017, 08:00 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 07:52 PM)Dakota Wrote: I haven't heard as much as a peep about the guy since being drafted. For those who have been at practices, has anything about him stood out, either good or bad?

He's like the unknown name on the roster right now.

Personally, I don't expect much at all. Announcers at the Senior Bowl pointed out that he didn't do much all week and he wasn't even the best pass rusher on his own Illini team. In my opinion he was the worst selection we made. We could've had Dan Feeney for God's sake! We're so deep at DE right now, I wouldn't even be surprised if he didn't make the team.


We're deep at DE? This is news to me. We have Campbell on the strongside, and then Ngoukue and Fowler on the weakside. Who else? 

(07-31-2017, 08:57 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.

I don't see him as an Alualu type at all. Aluala was much bigger and was a former DT. Smoot is like 6'3" 264 lbs. which is pretty average for a DE. Personally, I like UDFA Hunter Dimick a lot more than Smoot.


Hunter was described by one scout as the stiffest defensive end he's ever witnessed. He's got some impressive power to his game, but he's not better than Smoot. ...not by a longshot. Smoot's time will come.
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(This post was last modified: 07-31-2017, 10:18 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(07-31-2017, 09:28 PM)Jags02 Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:00 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Personally, I don't expect much at all. Announcers at the Senior Bowl pointed out that he didn't do much all week and he wasn't even the best pass rusher on his own Illini team. In my opinion he was the worst selection we made. We could've had Dan Feeney for God's sake! We're so deep at DE right now, I wouldn't even be surprised if he didn't make the team.


We're deep at DE? This is news to me. We have Campbell on the strongside, and then Ngoukue and Fowler on the weakside. Who else? 

(07-31-2017, 08:57 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I don't see him as an Alualu type at all. Aluala was much bigger and was a former DT. Smoot is like 6'3" 264 lbs. which is pretty average for a DE. Personally, I like UDFA Hunter Dimick a lot more than Smoot.


Hunter was described by one scout as the stiffest defensive end he's ever witnessed. He's got some impressive power to his game, but he's not better than Smoot. ...not by a longshot. Smoot's time will come.

Don't sleep on Woodard either. I think the kid has real potential. As for Dimick being stiff, we shall see. People said the same thing about Jared Allen coming out of college. (Not that I'm comparing Dimick to Allen.) Personally, Smoot doesn't impress me at all though.
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(07-31-2017, 10:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 09:28 PM)Jags02 Wrote: We're deep at DE? This is news to me. We have Campbell on the strongside, and then Ngoukue and Fowler on the weakside. Who else? 



Hunter was described by one scout as the stiffest defensive end he's ever witnessed. He's got some impressive power to his game, but he's not better than Smoot. ...not by a longshot. Smoot's time will come.

Don't sleep on Woodard either. I think the kid has real potential. As for Dimick being stiff, we shall see. People said the same thing about Jared Allen coming out of college. (Not that I'm comparing Dimick to Allen.) Personally, Smoot doesn't impress me at all though.


We've seen just as much out of Woodard this offseason as we've seen from Smoot.
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(07-31-2017, 08:57 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(07-31-2017, 08:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: He's a big end. Alualu 2.0 minus the first round draft pick investment.

I don't see him as an Alualu type at all. Aluala was much bigger and was a former DT. Smoot is like 6'3" 264 lbs. which is pretty average for a DE. Personally, I like UDFA Hunter Dimick a lot more than Smoot.

(07-31-2017, 08:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Feeney is a guard made for zone blocking and we are going with more of a power scheme.  We should of drafted Pat Elflein though, the best center in the draft and moved Linder back to RG

Feeney played very well at OT for the Hoosiers his last year in college. His versatility to play OT or OG would've been a lot more valuable than Smoot, who might not even make the team.

So Smoot might not make the team? I'll take that bet.

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Neither Smoot nor Dimick really stood out to me in practice. Dimick has power, but does look a little stiff. We'll see how they fare in the preseason.
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(This post was last modified: 08-01-2017, 06:16 AM by TealHammer.)

Smoot is a strong side DE. A relatively low impact position on defense. Even if he's an average NFL strong side DE in year 1, you aren't going to notice him that much.

After paying a fortune to get a guy the Jags feel will be an elite strong side DE, it was bizarre they drafted a backup strong side DE in the third round instead of adding a quality interior offensive lineman. That decision is made even more bizare given the official Jag media told us 24/7 last year towards the end of the season that the team didn't have a LG + team added zero quality players at that position or center.
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#19

Could have drafted Feeney.

Our line would have been atleast competitive.

Robinson Feeney Linder Omeneh(sp) Parnell

As of right now our line is bottom 10 in the league. Easily.
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(07-31-2017, 07:52 PM)Dakota Wrote: I haven't heard as much as a peep about the guy since being drafted. For those who have been at practices, has anything about him stood out, either good or bad?

He's like the unknown name on the roster right now.

Watch the one-on-one analysis from Lageman and Boselli. Smoot looks really bad.



                                                                          

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