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If we beat the Titans will you take Jags seriously?

#81
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2017, 08:46 PM by jaguarmvp.)

(09-14-2017, 11:54 AM)jg77 Wrote: I think we have the best defense in the NFL and we have a top 5 RB in my IMO.  I'm already taking us serious.  We have to get rid a few people to move to the next level but next year we're going to be superbowl contenders.

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#82

Being a former head coach, i have access to some otherwise top secret information. Titans will beat the Jags twice this season.
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#83

Gotta guarantee me one thing:

Please Rock the 'Bank this Sunday, for those of us who could not be there

That is all
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#84

(09-15-2017, 10:03 PM)Jeff.Fisher Wrote: Being a former head coach, i have access to some otherwise top secret information. Titans will beat the Jags twice this season.

A real head coach, former or otherwise, will know that you have to play the first game first before thinking of the rematch.  But you are Jeff Fisher after all. 

We feel the fear matey.  Thanks for the attention.
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#85

(09-16-2017, 05:38 AM)BritJag Wrote:
(09-15-2017, 10:03 PM)Jeff.Fisher Wrote: Being a former head coach, i have access to some otherwise top secret information. Titans will beat the Jags twice this season.

A real head coach, former or otherwise, will know that you have to play the first game first before thinking of thei rematch.  But you are Jeff Fisher after all. 

We feel the fear matey.  Thanks for the attention.

Remember it when i'm your coach next season. My boy is coming with me. Kerry collins qb coach. We will be 8-8 together
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#86

If we beat the Titans I will just find it ironic. For the last few seasons I have prayed that we would be good and win the division, but we always landed on our face. We finally seem to be putting things together on the defensive side of the football, but we still have a big, gaping hole at the most important position on the team, QB. This is looking to be one of the best QB classes we've seen in years, but several other teams need QB's as well. It would be nice to be able to finally get the franchise QB we've so badly needed since Mark Brunell left, without having to mortage the future, but if we beat the Titans, we have a very good chance at winning the division. That would probably put us near the end of the draft, meaning we would have to trade up and that would cost a fortune. It has to be done though. It's a catch-22. Yes, I want my team to succeed right now, but I know we can only go so far without a franchise QB. Oh well. If we have to give up a couple of first round picks to get into position to draft a QB, so be it. After all, I believe we are a QB and a couple of O-Linemen away from being a Superbowl contender and it would be nice to see a positive outcome when it comes to wins and losses this season. I'm tired of finishing below .500.
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(09-16-2017, 08:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: If we beat the Titans I will just find it ironic. For the last few seasons I have prayed that we would be good and win the division, but we always landed on our face. We finally seem to be putting things together on the defensive side of the football, but we still have a big, gaping hole at the most important position on the team, QB. This is looking to be one of the best QB classes we've seen in years, but several other teams need QBs as well. It would be nice to be able to finally get the franchise QB we've so badly needed since Mark Brunell left, without having to mortgage the future, but if we beat the Titans, we have a very good chance at winning the division. That would probably put us near the end of the draft, meaning we would have to trade up and that would cost a fortune. It has to be done though. It's a catch-22. Yes, I want my team to succeed right now, but I know we can only go so far without a franchise QB. Oh well. If we have to give up a couple of first round picks to get into position to draft a QB, so be it. After all, I believe we are a QB and a couple of O-Linemen away from being a Superbowl contender and it would be nice to see a positive outcome when it comes to wins and losses this season. I'm tired of finishing below .500.

All I can say about this without ruining the thread is keep praying for Jacksonville to be good win the division.
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#88

(09-16-2017, 10:11 AM)JaguarsWoman Wrote:
(09-16-2017, 08:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: If we beat the Titans I will just find it ironic. For the last few seasons I have prayed that we would be good and win the division, but we always landed on our face. We finally seem to be putting things together on the defensive side of the football, but we still have a big, gaping hole at the most important position on the team, QB. This is looking to be one of the best QB classes we've seen in years, but several other teams need QBs as well. It would be nice to be able to finally get the franchise QB we've so badly needed since Mark Brunell left, without having to mortgage the future, but if we beat the Titans, we have a very good chance at winning the division. That would probably put us near the end of the draft, meaning we would have to trade up and that would cost a fortune. It has to be done though. It's a catch-22. Yes, I want my team to succeed right now, but I know we can only go so far without a franchise QB. Oh well. If we have to give up a couple of first round picks to get into position to draft a QB, so be it. After all, I believe we are a QB and a couple of O-Linemen away from being a Superbowl contender and it would be nice to see a positive outcome when it comes to wins and losses this season. I'm tired of finishing below .500.

All I can say about this without ruining the thread is keep praying for Jacksonville to be good win the division.

Why would it ruin the thread?
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#89

The short answer, yes.


The longer answer:

For me as a fan and close follower of the team, week 2 is even more important than week one because it is an even better indication that we have corrected what I feel was the biggest problem with the team last year, coaching.

I believe we have already seen three big improvements from week one that I will be watching closely to see if they carry over.
  1. Timeout/clock management
  2. Play calling
  3. Sideline coaching
In addition to seeing consistency with the above improvements a win week 2 will show me two more critical areas that are needed to have a successful season.
  1. Maintaining Intensity.  For the first time in what feels like forever, the team came out fast and focused.  We weren't playing catch up in the 3rd like it feels we always are. It is a long season and we need to start EVERY GAME that way.
  2. Self Scouting/Game Planning.  "We are going to impose our will" is a pretty macho statement and can be effective in the NFL but for the past few seasons we have heard that statement and seen it completely fail.  When your idea of execution of that is to have a playbook the size of the original Tecmo Bowl then set up algorithms that let the defense be 100% sure what play your are going to call in certain situations, that isn't "imposing your will".  That is being naive.  You can be sure HOFer Dick LeBeau will know how to disrupt the gameplan we used on the tinhorns.  If we can self scout and have counters for his counters then I really think we are in business.
Its a long season, a loss does not mean the sky is falling and a win does not mean we are superbowl favorites.
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#90
(This post was last modified: 09-16-2017, 01:26 PM by SeldomRite.)

(09-16-2017, 11:55 AM)Takedakai Wrote: The short answer, yes.


The longer answer:

For me as a fan and close follower of the team, week 2 is even more important than week one because it is an even better indication that we have corrected what I feel was the biggest problem with the team last year, coaching.

I believe we have already seen three big improvements from week one that I will be watching closely to see if they carry over.
  1. Timeout/clock management
  2. Play calling
  3. Sideline coaching
In addition to seeing consistency with the above improvements a win week 2 will show me two more critical areas that are needed to have a successful season.
  1. Maintaining Intensity.  For the first time in what feels like forever, the team came out fast and focused.  We weren't playing catch up in the 3rd like it feels we always are. It is a long season and we need to start EVERY GAME that way.
  2. Self Scouting/Game Planning.  "We are going to impose our will" is a pretty macho statement and can be effective in the NFL but for the past few seasons we have heard that statement and seen it completely fail.  When your idea of execution of that is to have a playbook the size of the original Tecmo Bowl then set up algorithms that let the defense be 100% sure what play your are going to call in certain situations, that isn't "imposing your will".  That is being naive.  You can be sure HOFer Dick LeBeau will know how to disrupt the gameplan we used on the tinhorns.  If we can self scout and have counters for his counters then I really think we are in business.
Its a long season, a loss does not mean the sky is falling and a win does not mean we are superbowl favorites.

Your comment about Lebeau can just make his guys able to tackle Fournette is a bit on the naive side, too.

Sometimes you can scheme and still lose. It's like Vic Ketchman used to say sometimes, "do you understand butt kicked? This isn't a video game, it's real people, and sometimes the guy lined up on the other side is just better."

Does that mean the Jaguars shouldn't bother to scheme and game plan to be prepared for what the titans will try to do? Obviously not. However, the biggest part of winning in football is having the better players. I think the Jaguars overall do have the better players, and if 8+ in the box for the texans wasn't doing it I don't think it will do it any more for the titans this week.
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(09-16-2017, 01:25 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: Your comment about LeBeau can just make his guys able to tackle Fournette is a bit on the naive side, too.

Sometimes you can scheme and still lose. It's like Vic Ketchman used to say sometimes, "do you understand butt kicked? This isn't a video game, it's real people, and sometimes the guy lined up on the other side is just better."

Does that mean the Jaguars shouldn't bother to scheme and game plan to be prepared for what the titans will try to do? Obviously not. However, the biggest part of winning in football is having the better players. I think the Jaguars overall do have the better players, and if 8+ in the box for the texans wasn't doing it I don't think it will do it any more for the titans this week.

Obviously it is very important to game plan for the Titans. I read an article on NFL.com about how Fournette was able to run the ball down Houston's throats and Bortles managed to get the ball out of his hand quickly. A big reason was game planning for the Texans.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...n-road-win
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#92

Beat baltimore and i might take them serious
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#93

(09-16-2017, 01:43 PM)My Desired Display Name Wrote: Beat Baltimore and I might take them serious.

I would definitely take them serious with a win in London.
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#94

(09-15-2017, 08:26 PM)hb1148 Wrote:
(09-13-2017, 10:47 AM)Thaddeus43 Wrote: When the texans get smashed by the Bengals, will Jags still feel good about their win?

You were saying?

This troll won't be back anytime soon, if the Jags lose Sunday he'll be back along with the other trolls on here pretending to be Jags fan.
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#95

(09-16-2017, 02:46 PM)DuvalJag Wrote:
(09-15-2017, 08:26 PM)hb1148 Wrote: You were saying?

This troll won't be back anytime soon, if the Jags lose Sunday he'll be back along with the other trolls on here pretending to be Jags fan.

Chances are he will never come back even if we lose.
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#96

Bump

Regrettable thread title lol
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#97

The Cows did not win but did not look good, that is a bad team
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#98

I now take the Jags seriously... for a 2018 top 5 pick.
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#99

Jax D will keep them in most games but I think you're going to have to live with Bortles mistakes to win more. Risk more to win more and if it does not work out don't fret cause next yrs QB class looks solid. If you're smart resign ARob now on the cheap. He is your best offensive player and it shows even with Bortles. That says a lot.
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