The economy disagrees with you.

Rich white guys think the only presidential responsibility is stimulating the economy. Believe it or not, it involves ALOT more. Being able to only complete one mere task at a job that entails thousands of tasks should still get you fired.

You say he is clueless then imply only rich white guys are the only ones benefiting from a Trump economy. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

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The economy disagrees with you.

Rich white guys think the only presidential responsibility is stimulating the economy. Believe it or not, it involves ALOT more. Being able to only complete one mere task at a job that entails thousands of tasks should still get you fired.

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

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Rich white guys think the only presidential responsibility is stimulating the economy. Believe it or not, it involves ALOT more. Being able to only complete one mere task at a job that entails thousands of tasks should still get you fired.

You say he is clueless then imply only rich white guys are the only ones benefiting from a Trump economy. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

I'm saying his top and only priority is making more money for the top 1%. That was his motivation for running, (as well as boosting his own massive ego.)

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Rich white guys think the only presidential responsibility is stimulating the economy. Believe it or not, it involves ALOT more. Being able to only complete one mere task at a job that entails thousands of tasks should still get you fired.

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

He's royally screwed up the national defense part. He tweets threats to our enemies and constantly criticizes the countries who are supposed to be our biggest allies. Ticking off your allies is not a smart move. Especially when we might need them down the road. That just shows that the man lacks people skills. Not a good look for a president of the most powerful country on Earth.

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Rich white guys think the only presidential responsibility is stimulating the economy. Believe it or not, it involves ALOT more. Being able to only complete one mere task at a job that entails thousands of tasks should still get you fired.

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

I would put international diplomacy/foreign affairs very high on a presidents responsibilities.  How would you rate him there?

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

If anyone hasn't bothered to look, The Don is on his 5th foreign trip in 10 months and is pretty much crushing it on the world stage.

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If anyone hasn't bothered to look, The Don is on his 5th foreign trip in 10 months and is pretty much crushing it on the world stage.

I sure as hell know he isn't running around the globe apologizing "For America"  and kneeling with his head down in front of the other world leaders.

That is one of the more vile things his predecessor did IMO.

I cannot begin to imagine the relationships shrillary would have fostered if her and the DNC's plan had worked and that treasonous skank ended up Potus.

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If anyone hasn't bothered to look, The Don is on his 5th foreign trip in 10 months and is pretty much crushing it on the world stage.

I sure as hell know he isn't running around the globe apologizing "For America"  and kneeling with his head down in front of the other world leaders.

And most Americans are grateful for that!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

He's royally screwed up the national defense part. He tweets threats to our enemies and constantly criticizes the countries who are supposed to be our biggest allies. Ticking off your allies is not a smart move. Especially when we might need them down the road. That just shows that the man lacks people skills. Not a good look for a president of the most powerful country on Earth.

Link?

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Has anyone thought about just how BAD a party has to be for someone like Trump win a Presidential Election??

Yes, the Democratic party, with Hillary, Wasserman-Schultz, and Nancy Freaking Pelosi leading the way in 2016 was God-awful

It wasn't as much about the GOP being bad as it was Hillary being the worst candidate in US history.

There are a handful of guys that Trump took down that I would be just fine with being president that would have done a good job.

It's weird, you and I agreeing, but I totally agree.

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If anyone hasn't bothered to look, The Don is on his 5th foreign trip in 10 months and is pretty much crushing it on the world stage.

No, he's not. Just because he goes to these countries, doesn't mean he's making any headway. Especially after all the bad things he had to say about other countries in his speeches and tweets.

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I sure as hell know he isn't running around the globe apologizing "For America"  and kneeling with his head down in front of the other world leaders.

And most Americans are grateful for that!

According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine this week, Trump's approval rating hit an all time low of 37%, so I doubt most people are grateful for anything he does.

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And most Americans are grateful for that!

According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine this week, Trump's approval rating hit an all time low of 37%, so I doubt most people are grateful for anything he does.

According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine in late October of 2016, Hillary Clinton had a 12 point lead on Donald Trump.

http://fortune.com/2016/10/23/hillary-cl...s-leading/

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Everyone knew, everyone saw it happening live.

The simple truth? No one cares.

Everyone is waiting for the latest tweet to get outraged over.

True. What difference would it make now, anyway? Trump is president. Like it or not, there is nothing we can do about it now. I blame the DNC though. They were determined to force Hillary down people's throats as the only other legitimate choice and it backfired. Maybe now, they will get the hint that people don't like Hillary Clinton. I hate Trump, but Hillary was not a good option. She was and is, completely untrustworthy.

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As much as I have turned to dislike Trump, this is the part I find most interesting.  The Democratic party is the most corrupt organization there is and somehow they will be given a pass from the voters that are within it.  

Bernie would have had less a chance to win than Hillary would have.  His policies were garbage.

Wrong. Polls had him beating Trump, where as the same polls had Trump beating Hillary. As someone who didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary, I would've voted for Sanders and I know several other people who would've done the same. Whether Bernie would've won the general election, I don't know, but I bet he would've done better than Clinton did.

Were these the same polls that had Hillary winning in a landslide on election day?  

Sanders never had any expectation of winning anything.  He knew the game was rigged.  Those who continue to carry water for the guy completely ignore the fact that he was paid off to step aside and support the nominee.  He's perfectly content to be a socialist except when it comes to his personal finances, so he's nothing more than a giant hypocrite.  For a guy who has lived an entire life without actually ever having a real job, he's done pretty well for himself.

As far as Brazil's revelations in her book, she's trying to slow walk some of the allegations now that the excerpts have come out.  I've watched a couple of interviews she's done in the past day or two, and she's proving to be an adept tap dancer.  The problem here is that the Clinton camp swooped in and took control of the DNC long before Clinton won the nomination.  Obama had left the party bankrupt, and she had the resources to pay off the party debt, but that came at a price.  Her campaign had complete control over the party finances, and thus the party itself.  There's no way Bernie Sanders was oblivious to this, so his entire campaign was nothing more than a dog and pony show to provide Hillary with a foil.  Little did she know that the disdain many had for her would be significant enough that for some, Bernie seemed like a feasible alternative.

At the end of the day, I'm amazed the FEC hasn't stepped in to investigate this because there's all sorts of fishiness with this story if Brazil is to be believed.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

You say he is clueless then imply only rich white guys are the only ones benefiting from a Trump economy. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

I'm saying his top and only priority is making more money for the top 1%. That was his motivation for running, (as well as boosting his own massive ego.)

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You do realize that under current tax code, the top 1% pay over 40% of all taxes paid. The bottom 50% pays absolutely nothing.

I haven't seen any of the bottom 50% creating jobs. Jobs are those things that generate income and drive the economy.

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Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

I would put international diplomacy/foreign affairs very high on a presidents responsibilities.  How would you rate him there?

Not much different than the previous 2-3....

we're still very much involved in the middle east, we're still at odds with Syria, Iran, N. Korea....
I mean... not much has changed except for Trumps tweeting rhetoric.

Which I know makes a lot of you kids feel uncomfortable... but we're in no more danger today than we were 1.5 years ago. At least not from the big bad across the ocean. I know there is a lot of scare tactics in the media about big bad Korea... Russia this... but Trump hasn't made it worse. If anything he's put up a big middle finger to all of them to let them know we won't be pushed around or allow them to use scare tactics to muzzle us.

There are a lot of foreign leaders that don't like Trump... I'd venture to say plenty didn't like Obama.
Why? Simply put... it isn't what they say but whether their agenda matches. If not... easy to not like someone.

If foreign leaders were a fan of Obama it's only because his liberal US destroying agenda/policies were in line with theirs. And even then, that doesn't guarantee that they respected him at all.

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True. What difference would it make now, anyway? Trump is president. Like it or not, there is nothing we can do about it now. I blame the DNC though. They were determined to force Hillary down people's throats as the only other legitimate choice and it backfired. Maybe now, they will get the hint that people don't like Hillary Clinton. I hate Trump, but Hillary was not a good option. She was and is, completely untrustworthy.

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Wrong. Polls had him beating Trump, where as the same polls had Trump beating Hillary. As someone who didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary, I would've voted for Sanders and I know several other people who would've done the same. Whether Bernie would've won the general election, I don't know, but I bet he would've done better than Clinton did.

Were these the same polls that had Hillary winning in a landslide on election day?  

Sanders never had any expectation of winning anything.  He knew the game was rigged.  Those who continue to carry water for the guy completely ignore the fact that he was paid off to step aside and support the nominee.  He's perfectly content to be a socialist except when it comes to his personal finances, so he's nothing more than a giant hypocrite.  For a guy who has lived an entire life without actually ever having a real job, he's done pretty well for himself.

As far as Brazil's revelations in her book, she's trying to slow walk some of the allegations now that the excerpts have come out.  I've watched a couple of interviews she's done in the past day or two, and she's proving to be an adept tap dancer.  The problem here is that the Clinton camp swooped in and took control of the DNC long before Clinton won the nomination.  Obama had left the party bankrupt, and she had the resources to pay off the party debt, but that came at a price.  Her campaign had complete control over the party finances, and thus the party itself.  There's no way Bernie Sanders was oblivious to this, so his entire campaign was nothing more than a dog and pony show to provide Hillary with a foil.  Little did she know that the disdain many had for her would be significant enough that for some, Bernie seemed like a feasible alternative.

At the end of the day, I'm amazed the FEC hasn't stepped in to investigate this because there's all sorts of fishiness with this story if Brazil is to be believed.

Polls are dumb

"Out of 3000 probable voters, +/- 3%"

What kind of real information does that provide? 3k people polled by CNN think a certain way, no crap. lol

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And most Americans are grateful for that!

According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine this week, Trump's approval rating hit an all time low of 37%, so I doubt most people are grateful for anything he does.

They didn't ask me.

Wonder who they polled? New Yorkers? Californians? Mexico?

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According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine this week, Trump's approval rating hit an all time low of 37%, so I doubt most people are grateful for anything he does.

According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine in late October of 2016, Hillary Clinton had a 12 point lead on Donald Trump.

http://fortune.com/2016/10/23/hillary-cl...s-leading/

At that time, maybe she did, but a lot came out after that date which caused many people to change their minds. Not to mention that there were a lot of undecided voters that weren't taken into account, which ultimately decided the election.

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I'm saying his top and only priority is making more money for the top 1%. That was his motivation for running, (as well as boosting his own massive ego.)

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You do realize that under current tax code, the top 1% pay over 40% of all taxes paid. The bottom 50% pays absolutely nothing.

I haven't seen any of the bottom 50% creating jobs. Jobs are those things that generate income and drive the economy.

It doesn't matter how much of the total taxes that they pay. They can afford it and it doesn't effect them, because they still have billions or millions of dollars. They should pay the same percentage of their income that everyone else pays. That's only fair. We need a flat tax rate. Everyone pays the same percentage of their income. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

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I would put international diplomacy/foreign affairs very high on a presidents responsibilities.  How would you rate him there?

Not much different than the previous 2-3....

we're still very much involved in the middle east, we're still at odds with Syria, Iran, N. Korea....
I mean... not much has changed except for Trumps tweeting rhetoric.

Which I know makes a lot of you kids feel uncomfortable... but we're in no more danger today than we were 1.5 years ago. At least not from the big bad across the ocean. I know there is a lot of scare tactics in the media about big bad Korea... Russia this... but Trump hasn't made it worse. If anything he's put up a big middle finger to all of them to let them know we won't be pushed around or allow them to use scare tactics to muzzle us.

There are a lot of foreign leaders that don't like Trump... I'd venture to say plenty didn't like Obama.
Why? Simply put... it isn't what they say but whether their agenda matches. If not... easy to not like someone.

If foreign leaders were a fan of Obama it's only because his liberal US destroying agenda/policies were in line with theirs. And even then, that doesn't guarantee that they respected him at all.

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Were these the same polls that had Hillary winning in a landslide on election day?  

Sanders never had any expectation of winning anything.  He knew the game was rigged.  Those who continue to carry water for the guy completely ignore the fact that he was paid off to step aside and support the nominee.  He's perfectly content to be a socialist except when it comes to his personal finances, so he's nothing more than a giant hypocrite.  For a guy who has lived an entire life without actually ever having a real job, he's done pretty well for himself.

As far as Brazil's revelations in her book, she's trying to slow walk some of the allegations now that the excerpts have come out.  I've watched a couple of interviews she's done in the past day or two, and she's proving to be an adept tap dancer.  The problem here is that the Clinton camp swooped in and took control of the DNC long before Clinton won the nomination.  Obama had left the party bankrupt, and she had the resources to pay off the party debt, but that came at a price.  Her campaign had complete control over the party finances, and thus the party itself.  There's no way Bernie Sanders was oblivious to this, so his entire campaign was nothing more than a dog and pony show to provide Hillary with a foil.  Little did she know that the disdain many had for her would be significant enough that for some, Bernie seemed like a feasible alternative.

At the end of the day, I'm amazed the FEC hasn't stepped in to investigate this because there's all sorts of fishiness with this story if Brazil is to be believed.

Polls are dumb

"Out of 3000 probable voters, +/- 3%"

What kind of real information does that provide? 3k people polled by CNN think a certain way, no crap. lol

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According to a poll done by Fortune Magazine this week, Trump's approval rating hit an all time low of 37%, so I doubt most people are grateful for anything he does.

They didn't ask me.

Wonder who they polled? New Yorkers? Californians? Mexico?

I live in Ohio, a very red state and I hate him. I know many, many others who feel the same. Several of my family members who voted for Trump have now turned against him. Many, over the border wall and how he is now backing off saying the Mexicans would pay for it. My family members said they don't want it if we are gonna pay for it, because Trump promised it would cost us nothing. I told them they were idiots for believing him. He had no authority to force another country to pay for something we want. It's not just liberals and people on both coast who disapprove of Trump. It's people that voted for him and now see how he has broken promises that he campaigned on, ridiculous as they were.

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You do realize that under current tax code, the top 1% pay over 40% of all taxes paid. The bottom 50% pays absolutely nothing.

I haven't seen any of the bottom 50% creating jobs. Jobs are those things that generate income and drive the economy.

It doesn't matter how much of the total taxes that they pay. They can afford it and it doesn't effect them, because they still have billions or millions of dollars. They should pay the same percentage of their income that everyone else pays. That's only fair. We need a flat tax rate. Everyone pays the same percentage of their income. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

I agree, the bottom 50% should start paying the same as the rest of us.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

He's royally screwed up the national defense part. He tweets threats to our enemies and constantly criticizes the countries who are supposed to be our biggest allies. Ticking off your allies is not a smart move. Especially when we might need them down the road. That just shows that the man lacks people skills. Not a good look for a president of the most powerful country on Earth.

You're also under the impression that North Korea isn't a threat to South Korea and that we shouldn't do anything about them launching missiles over our allies. How is Trump Tweeting about how that's unacceptable a bad thing? Would you also ignore a gun pointed to your head, hoping it will just go away? 

Which countries is he criticizing that don't also criticize him? I'm also curious if you have examples so I know what you're talking about.

Rich white people aren't the only people making up the US economy.

I'd argue national defense and stimulating the economy (when possible) are pretty much the only responsibilities of the President. What are some of the other things it's about that Trump hasn't done?

I would put international diplomacy/foreign affairs very high on a presidents responsibilities.  How would you rate him there?

That's the funny thing about diplomacy. Obama's version of it included what many thought as respecting foreign leaders and diminishing our role in the world's affairs. How did that work? Middle eastern countries and North Korea walked all over him. Being crass and rude doesn't make you an ineffective leader. Churchill was considered a jerk, but no one would question his leadership.

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