My biggest concern is that I think the team was/is losing focus.  The Pats grind every week in a business like mentality.  They do everything required to win each week.  The Jags had kind of done that for most of the season but then they took the 49ers lightly (I think the Cardinals too with Gabbert at QB).  I just hope they learn from their mistake.  They were not mentally prepared for the Niners and I don't think they put in the work last week to be ready (making assumptions here of course).

Not knocking Coughlin, but it seemed his Jags teams seem to "play down" to competition.  We would be so much better than another team on paper and end up losing to someone we had no business losing too.  But almost always stepped up against big opponents.  I hope Marrone can get these guys focused and properly prepared.

NFL officiating (especially what constitutes a catch) is the biggest joke in all of sports.  "Completing the process" and "surviving the ground" are flat out stupid.  I hope the NFL does away with these phrases and changes the definition of a catch to what we all know it looks like across America.  If the ball is in your hand for a moment, boom, it's a catch.
Triplette also sounded like a pissy little school girl all game.  Talk about no professionalism at all!  If I was Goodell, that dude would have been fired mid-game.

I feel like you’re not watching the game. Play down to the competition? Destroyed Texans twice. Destroyed Colts twice. Beat Bengals.


Yea Jags lost to the 49ers and Cards but plays down to competition? Not true. West coast games are always tricky.

They’re not losing focus. They got beat by a hot QB and a hot team. They battled back from 16 down to lead 19-16. They battled back to 33-37. We had some bone head mistakes which will certainly be cleaned up.

Some people on here take one game as gospel but forget the other 15. If the Jags come out and smoke the Titans then what? They’re focused and good again?

Yes, we definitely handled business a lot this season.  It's just an observation.

I'm not sure why we continue to make excuses for west coast games.  Great teams are able to win any time, any where.

I'm not sure what you're arguing here.  It's a discussion board...aren't we supposed to discuss?

Why excuse the Jags for not showing up against a "hot team" as you put it?  The 49ers are playing great lately and we fell short.  That's not a good thing.

I do believe we are better than we showed this past week but it's also not genuine to blow off the game entirely.

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3.  This was also an ugly game for the defense.  Giving up all of those points to the 49ers was not good.  The sideline squabble between Malik Jackson and Aaron Colvin was not good.  The stupid personal foul penalties-including two in one drive-gave the 49ers offense forty five (45) additional yards on a day they certainly did not need it.  While there was incentive for the Jaguars to win to keep pace with Pittsburgh and New England, from a playoff seeding standpoint, realistically, nothing was at stake.  Pittsburgh and or New England losing these last two weeks was not likely.  If the team will lose poise during this game where comparatively little was at stake, what will happen in the playoffs when things are do or die?  I sure hope this game was a lesson in poise.

4.  Somehow I knew Jeff Triplette would screw us someway. But that quick whistle on the forward progress fumble left me shaking my head in disbelief (aside from the loud string of profanities I spewed).  That call hurt us, but it didn't cost the team the game.  Nevertheless, does anybody have any faith that the Jaguars-not being one of the league's glamor franchises-can possibly avoid rectum wrecking calls like that if we go up against Pittsburgh or New England?

Not to quote whole post, because I agree.  But as an observation, I immediately wondered how much #4 had to do with the highlighted.

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3.  This was also an ugly game for the defense.  Giving up all of those points to the 49ers was not good.  The sideline squabble between Malik Jackson and Aaron Colvin was not good.  The stupid personal foul penalties-including two in one drive-gave the 49ers offense forty five (45) additional yards on a day they certainly did not need it.  While there was incentive for the Jaguars to win to keep pace with Pittsburgh and New England, from a playoff seeding standpoint, realistically, nothing was at stake.  Pittsburgh and or New England losing these last two weeks was not likely.  If the team will lose poise during this game where comparatively little was at stake, what will happen in the playoffs when things are do or die?  I sure hope this game was a lesson in poise.

4.  Somehow I knew Jeff Triplette would screw us someway. But that quick whistle on the forward progress fumble left me shaking my head in disbelief (aside from the loud string of profanities I spewed).  That call hurt us, but it didn't cost the team the game.  Nevertheless, does anybody have any faith that the Jaguars-not being one of the league's glamor franchises-can possibly avoid rectum wrecking calls like that if we go up against Pittsburgh or New England?

Not to quote whole post, because I agree.  But as an observation, I immediately wondered how much #4 had to do with the highlighted.

Funny you ask, because I did not readily associate the two points, but it makes you wonder if the refs might have been hypersensitive- at least when it came to the Jack taunting call.  I saw Jack standing over the guy, but not hearing what, if anything Jack said to him, I don't know if the call was legit or a case of an itchy trigger finger on the part of the ref.  The Jackson and Ngakoue calls seemed legit at face value.

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Not to quote whole post, because I agree.  But as an observation, I immediately wondered how much #4 had to do with the highlighted.

Funny you ask, because I did not readily associate the two points, but it makes you wonder if the refs might have been hypersensitive- at least when it came to the Jack taunting call.  I saw Jack standing over the guy, but not hearing what, if anything Jack said to him, I don't know if the call was legit or a case of an itchy trigger finger on the part of the ref.  The Jackson and Ngakoue calls seemed legit at face value.

Maybe I stated that incorrectly.  I'm wondering if the 'non-fumble' call was as a result of the two unsportsmanlike penalties.  It immediately popped into my head when they called it because there was absolutely no way that forward progress had been stopped on that play.  If I recall correctly, that was the same drive.

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Funny you ask, because I did not readily associate the two points, but it makes you wonder if the refs might have been hypersensitive- at least when it came to the Jack taunting call.  I saw Jack standing over the guy, but not hearing what, if anything Jack said to him, I don't know if the call was legit or a case of an itchy trigger finger on the part of the ref.  The Jackson and Ngakoue calls seemed legit at face value.

Maybe I stated that incorrectly.  I'm wondering if the 'non-fumble' call was as a result of the two unsportsmanlike penalties.  It immediately popped into my head when they called it because there was absolutely no way that forward progress had been stopped on that play.  If I recall correctly, that was the same drive.

My answer still doesn't change much.  I didn't associate the two.

Do you think that perhaps one or more Jaguars players said something to one of the refs and the ref acted vindictively beyond the penalty in question?

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Maybe I stated that incorrectly.  I'm wondering if the 'non-fumble' call was as a result of the two unsportsmanlike penalties.  It immediately popped into my head when they called it because there was absolutely no way that forward progress had been stopped on that play.  If I recall correctly, that was the same drive.

My answer still doesn't change much.  I didn't associate the two.

Do you think that perhaps one or more Jaguars players said something to one of the refs and the ref acted vindictively beyond the penalty in question?

Or maybe the Jags have a reputation and they call things a little differently.  Take a look at how pissed the ref was after the Ngokue penalty.  How difficult would it be for him to just say [BLEEP] them and tell Marrone that forward progress was stopped? Did that happen?  Who knows?  Are refs human and capable of being vindictive?  Absolutely.

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My answer still doesn't change much.  I didn't associate the two.

Do you think that perhaps one or more Jaguars players said something to one of the refs and the ref acted vindictively beyond the penalty in question?

Or maybe the Jags have a reputation and they call things a little differently.  Take a look at how pissed the ref was after the Ngokue penalty.  How difficult would it be for him to just say [BLEEP] them and tell Marrone that forward progress was stopped? Did that happen?  Who knows?  Are refs human and capable of being vindictive?  Absolutely.

They could have very easily thrown Ngakoue out of the game with that penalty. He made blatant contact with an official in an aggressive manner and it wasn't accidental. They had every right to throw him out of the game right then. Especially since he came running into the action way late.

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Correction to a faulty impression:

Lageman broke down the pass to the FB down the left sideline that went for 44 yards.

He pointed out the different responsibilities the various defenders had, and indicated it was not Poz's fault/responsibility.

According to Lageman, Telvin Smith had flat responsibility, but bit hard on the play action fake. Lageman indicated Poz actually tried covering for Telvin Smith on the play.

If this is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt it), then mea culpa and apologies to Poz.

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Correction to a faulty impression:

Lageman broke down the pass to the FB down the left sideline that went for 44 yards.

He pointed out the different responsibilities the various defenders had, and indicated it was not Poz's fault/responsibility.

According to Lageman, Telvin Smith had flat responsibility, but bit hard on the play action fake.  Lageman indicated Poz actually tried covering for Telvin Smith on the play.

If this is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt it), then mea culpa and apologies to Poz.

Yeah, it sounds like Telvin had the mental error, Poz recognized it, and tried to clean up the mistake. 

It’s tough to know exactly what’s going on from the tv view. That’s why I find Lageman’s film reviews to be a real gem.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Correction to a faulty impression:

Lageman broke down the pass to the FB down the left sideline that went for 44 yards.

He pointed out the different responsibilities the various defenders had, and indicated it was not Poz's fault/responsibility.

According to Lageman, Telvin Smith had flat responsibility, but bit hard on the play action fake.  Lageman indicated Poz actually tried covering for Telvin Smith on the play.

If this is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt it), then mea culpa and apologies to Poz.

Yeah, it sounds like Telvin had the mental error, Poz recognized it, and tried to clean up the mistake. 

It’s tough to know exactly what’s going on from the tv view. That’s why I find Lageman’s film reviews to be a real gem.

Yes.  Lageman's breakdowns are invaluable to those who want a better understanding of what happened on a given play and football overall.  This is precisely why I offered the retraction and apology to Poz I did.

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I place this loss primarily on the defense. They did not stop anything. Next the running game. then Bortles.

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I place this loss primarily on the defense. They did not stop anything. Next the running game. then Bortles.

I don't understand how you can make this claim. It was a complete team failure top to bottom. Defense didn't play well of course but Bortles also also threw three interceptions putting the defense in terrible spots. Also the running game was non existent so blame goes all around

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"Sucess Is Not a Goal, It is a By-product"

I place this loss primarily on the defense. They did not stop anything. Next the running game. then Bortles.

I don't understand how you can make this claim. It was a complete team failure top to bottom. Defense didn't play well of course but Bortles also also threw three interceptions putting the defense in terrible spots. Also the running game was non existent so blame goes all around

Sounds like you're in agreement but want to argue anyway.

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I don't understand how you can make this claim. It was a complete team failure top to bottom. Defense didn't play well of course but Bortles also also threw three interceptions putting the defense in terrible spots. Also the running game was non existent so blame goes all around

Sounds like you're in agreement but want to argue anyway.

I'm not an agreement though. He clearly stated the loss was primarily on the defense which I disagreed with. There is no primary blame when it is everybody's fault equally.

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"Sucess Is Not a Goal, It is a By-product"

Sounds like you're in agreement but want to argue anyway.

I'm not an agreement though. He clearly stated the loss was primarily on the defense which I disagreed with. There is no primary blame when it is everybody's fault equally.

Maybe I misinterpret the original post, but it sounds like it meant the defense did the worst job, followed by the running effort followed by Bortles failures. I don't think it was absolving any of the three, just noting the order in which he thought they contributed to the loss.

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Correction to a faulty impression:

Lageman broke down the pass to the FB down the left sideline that went for 44 yards.

He pointed out the different responsibilities the various defenders had, and indicated it was not Poz's fault/responsibility.

According to Lageman, Telvin Smith had flat responsibility, but bit hard on the play action fake.  Lageman indicated Poz actually tried covering for Telvin Smith on the play.

If this is accurate (and I have no reason to doubt it), then mea culpa and apologies to Poz.

I'm glad you apologized, Poz is not a Jaguar who'd I want having a beef with me.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley