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Sessions terminates US policy that let legal pot flourish

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(01-06-2018, 10:06 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 08:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think the whole thing just goes to show, political principles like "states' rights" and "local control" only go so far.  

"Let's leave it up to the states" is what they all say, unless of course, the states are going to do something they don't like.

It absolutely should be a state's right issue, but several Supreme Court rulings that massively expanded the scope of the commerce clause have overturned the intent of the Constitution and given control to the Federal government on matters like this. So right now the only way to give this issue back to the states is for Congress to pass a bill that eliminates the existing anti-pot law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

So, are you saying that Sessions did this so Congress would legalize pot?
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(01-07-2018, 08:37 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 10:06 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: It absolutely should be a state's right issue, but several Supreme Court rulings that massively expanded the scope of the commerce clause have overturned the intent of the Constitution and given control to the Federal government on matters like this. So right now the only way to give this issue back to the states is for Congress to pass a bill that eliminates the existing anti-pot law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

So, are you saying that Sessions did this so Congress would legalize pot?

Of course not. Sessions is an authoritarian who wants pot to be criminalized.


That doesn't change the fact that (because of the supreme court rulings) congress has the sole authority to end the federal law against pot, and that Sessions did the legally correct thing in overturning the Obama era executive-branch-only lawmaking.



                                                                          

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#23

Well you have to remember this is coming from a mind that believes marijuana is nearly as bad if not worse as heroin. So far he's off to a fast start as being the head candidate for [BLEEP] of the year.
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#24

Like I've said before.. Sessions is a demented old man that has no place in modern society.
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(01-08-2018, 09:35 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Like I've said before.. Sessions is a demented old man that has no place in modern society.

Right, how DARE he believe in the Rule of Law. How dare he...  Rolleyes
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(01-05-2018, 06:39 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2018, 12:38 AM)TJBender Wrote: And we both know that's not why Sessions is doing this.

It's a good move to force HR 1227, a Republican bill btw, out of committee this year.

I doubt this was Sessions' intent, but you're right. The politicians need to remove the feds from the equation.
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(01-06-2018, 10:06 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 08:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think the whole thing just goes to show, political principles like "states' rights" and "local control" only go so far.  

"Let's leave it up to the states" is what they all say, unless of course, the states are going to do something they don't like.

It absolutely should be a state's right issue, but several Supreme Court rulings that massively expanded the scope of the commerce clause have overturned the intent of the Constitution and given control to the Federal government on matters like this. So right now the only way to give this issue back to the states is for Congress to pass a bill that eliminates the existing anti-pot law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

They just need to reschedule it.
It's currently the same as cocaine and heroin.
Asinine.

At worst it's tobacco and alcohol.
At best it's Ginko Biloba.
That's the most and least it should be regulated by law.
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(This post was last modified: 01-09-2018, 01:31 PM by TrivialPursuit.)

(01-09-2018, 01:18 PM)Kane Wrote:
(01-06-2018, 10:06 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: It absolutely should be a state's right issue, but several Supreme Court rulings that massively expanded the scope of the commerce clause have overturned the intent of the Constitution and given control to the Federal government on matters like this. So right now the only way to give this issue back to the states is for Congress to pass a bill that eliminates the existing anti-pot law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

They just need to reschedule it.
It's currently the same as cocaine and heroin.
Asinine.

At worst it's tobacco and alcohol.
At best it's Ginko Biloba.
That's the most and least it should be regulated by law.
Thousands are killed every single year by alcohol...

but since every Congressman and Senator has a liquor cabinet in their cushy government offices....

Let's all blame an all-natural, no chemical change necessary plant for the country's problems....

EDIT: Not calling you out or anything, Kane. I know you're on the side of common sense

(01-08-2018, 10:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-08-2018, 09:35 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Like I've said before.. Sessions is a demented old man that has no place in modern society.

Right, how DARE he believe in the Rule of Law. How dare he...  Rolleyes

He actually thinks the 80s and 90s War on Drugs was successful enough to want to go back to it. You don't think that's a deranged mind?

Do you remember DARE? That was the most ridiculous thing in the world.. that program taught me what drugs were in elementary school - great frigging idea that was - it made me curious to try!
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#29

(01-09-2018, 01:27 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:
(01-09-2018, 01:18 PM)Kane Wrote: They just need to reschedule it.
It's currently the same as cocaine and heroin.
Asinine.

At worst it's tobacco and alcohol.
At best it's Ginko Biloba.
That's the most and least it should be regulated by law.
Thousands are killed every single year by alcohol...

but since every Congressman and Senator has a liquor cabinet in their cushy government offices....

Let's all blame an all-natural, no chemical change necessary plant for the country's problems....

EDIT: Not calling you out or anything, Kane. I know you're on the side of common sense

(01-08-2018, 10:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Right, how DARE he believe in the Rule of Law. How dare he...  Rolleyes

He actually thinks the 80s and 90s War on Drugs was successful enough to want to go back to it. You don't think that's a deranged mind?

Do you remember DARE? That was the most ridiculous thing in the world.. that program taught me what drugs were in elementary school - great frigging idea that was - it made me curious to try!

DARE was a waste of time and money.
But I got a cool shirt out of it.
And I kept my pledge to not drink, smoke, or do drugs...

Well until I was a teenager.

If history has taught us anything it is that prohibition doesn't work.
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(01-10-2018, 02:46 PM)Kane Wrote:
(01-09-2018, 01:27 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Thousands are killed every single year by alcohol...

but since every Congressman and Senator has a liquor cabinet in their cushy government offices....

Let's all blame an all-natural, no chemical change necessary plant for the country's problems....

EDIT: Not calling you out or anything, Kane. I know you're on the side of common sense


He actually thinks the 80s and 90s War on Drugs was successful enough to want to go back to it. You don't think that's a deranged mind?

Do you remember DARE? That was the most ridiculous thing in the world.. that program taught me what drugs were in elementary school - great frigging idea that was - it made me curious to try!

And I kept my pledge to not drink, smoke, or do drugs...

Well until I was a teenager.

HAHAHAHA +1 for you, sir. This is so very true.
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