And I seriously want to know why you and KupperY think he's so easily replaceable.  The fact that he's gotten as far as he has and has the utmost respect of his teammates says a hell of a lot to me.  

Cousins is overrated and is far from being worth the money he will demand.  I'm not going to pull up the ESPN article again that says that he's not viewed as anything special by a lot of NFL people.  

No thanks to Alex Smith.  What's he won?  

Then we get to draft choices which are next to impossible to truly evaluate due to all of the gimmicky NCAA offenses.  So what?  We take a flyer on another first-rounder where we could end up back in the same boat again?  Oh goody.

And then even if we win this game or the Super Bowl we should 'upgrade the position'?  Good grief.  

Do I want to bring in a developmental guy?  Yes.  Should we go hog-wild and try to replace him immediately?  Not a chance.

I think it's easier to replace mediocrity, than it is to replace an outgoing star, because the bar is set lower. Our QB bar here in Jacksonville is not that high. I'm not saying it'll be easy to try and find a replacement, I'm just saying we have to try. No team ever gets better by settling. 

I have been pretty vocal about my opposition to signing Cousins. Like you say, he's not special and he'd cost us a fortune. Alex Smith is showing that he's a good QB, when they actually get him a decent deep threat and let him throw the ball (this year), but the guy is in his mid 30's. To me, it would be a waste of a high draft pick (the cost it would take to get Smith), just to have him as a starter for a couple of years. 

The draft is the place to get a QB. Why is taking a QB in round 1, more risky to you than taking a TE in the same spot? I don't get it. The draft is a crapshoot, no matter which positional player you take. There are no guarantees. You just have to trust what you see. Personally, I see 3 of the most accurate rookie passers I've seen in years (Rosen, Mayfield and Rudolph). To me, accuracy is the #1 factor in selecting a QB. I want a guy who has the ability to place the football where only his WR can get it. I see that in these 3 guys. I don't see it consistently in any other QB in this draft. Darnold flashes it at times, but then he gets wildly inaccurate at other times. There are no developmental QB's in this draft either. Drafting a QB in round 3 on, would truly be a waste of a pick. I've seen almost every eligible QB in this draft (with the exception of some small school guys) and this draft is top heavy with the quality going straight off a cliff after round 1, possibly round 2 depending on who falls. 

Drafting a QB early does not mean we immediately replace Bortles. It means we are actively trying to bring in viable competition for him. Getting a "developmental guy" in the mid rounds is not viable competition. It's burning a draft pick on a guy who's ceiling may be the same as Chad Henne's was. What does that accomplish?

Well the top 2 picks are projected to be quarterbacks. Do you suggest moving up 27 or more spots? Perhaps we could pull off a Rickey Williams type trade? I really like that idea, go from possibly winning it all to trying to develop a quarterback. Essentially starting over!! I realize you've seen almost every quarterback in this draft class (so you must own a television) , but so has anyone who watches college football.

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I initially liked Bortles coming out of college all the way up to the 2016 season. At the time it seemed apparent to me that he didn't have it and his basic mechanics were ruined. This season completely reversed my perception of him. His mechanics are better, he's making strides and last week he played absolutely outstanding. He's earned his extension, it makes more sense for the team to keep him and evaluate his play next year. It's entirely possible he takes the next step and plays with a little more consistency and puts on a few shows like we saw last week. He has 4-5 games like that a season and comes in big during most of the big games there's really noone to upgrade him with outside obvious big names that we can't even get.

QBs take the longest out of any position to develop. If we let him walk I promise you there are plenty of teams that'll happily take him at this point. If we can make it to the Superbowl with Blake then I don't see why people will be so eager to get rid of him.

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I initially liked Bortles coming out of college all the way up to the 2016 season. At the time it seemed apparent to me that he didn't have it and his basic mechanics were ruined. This season completely reversed my perception of him. His mechanics are better, he's making strides and last week he played absolutely outstanding. He's earned his extension, it makes more sense for the team to keep him and evaluate his play next year. It's entirely possible he takes the next step and plays with a little more consistency and puts on a few shows like we saw last week. He has 4-5 games like that a season and comes in big during most of the big games there's really noone to upgrade him with outside obvious big names that we can't even get.

QBs take the longest out of any position to develop. If we let him walk I promise you there are plenty of teams that'll happily take him at this point. If we can make it to the Superbowl with Blake then I don't see why people will be so eager to get rid of him.

Compared to last season, the number of "get rid of him" posters has gone way down.

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I think it's easier to replace mediocrity, than it is to replace an outgoing star, because the bar is set lower. Our QB bar here in Jacksonville is not that high. I'm not saying it'll be easy to try and find a replacement, I'm just saying we have to try. No team ever gets better by settling. 

I have been pretty vocal about my opposition to signing Cousins. Like you say, he's not special and he'd cost us a fortune. Alex Smith is showing that he's a good QB, when they actually get him a decent deep threat and let him throw the ball (this year), but the guy is in his mid 30's. To me, it would be a waste of a high draft pick (the cost it would take to get Smith), just to have him as a starter for a couple of years. 

The draft is the place to get a QB. Why is taking a QB in round 1, more risky to you than taking a TE in the same spot? I don't get it. The draft is a crapshoot, no matter which positional player you take. There are no guarantees. You just have to trust what you see. Personally, I see 3 of the most accurate rookie passers I've seen in years (Rosen, Mayfield and Rudolph). To me, accuracy is the #1 factor in selecting a QB. I want a guy who has the ability to place the football where only his WR can get it. I see that in these 3 guys. I don't see it consistently in any other QB in this draft. Darnold flashes it at times, but then he gets wildly inaccurate at other times. There are no developmental QB's in this draft either. Drafting a QB in round 3 on, would truly be a waste of a pick. I've seen almost every eligible QB in this draft (with the exception of some small school guys) and this draft is top heavy with the quality going straight off a cliff after round 1, possibly round 2 depending on who falls. 

Drafting a QB early does not mean we immediately replace Bortles. It means we are actively trying to bring in viable competition for him. Getting a "developmental guy" in the mid rounds is not viable competition. It's burning a draft pick on a guy who's ceiling may be the same as Chad Henne's was. What does that accomplish?

Well the top 2 picks are projected to be quarterbacks. Do you suggest moving up 27 or more spots? Perhaps we could pull off a Rickey Williams type trade? I really like that idea, go from possibly winning it all to trying to develop a quarterback. Essentially starting over!! I realize you've seen almost every quarterback in this draft class (so you must own a television) , but so has anyone who watches college football.

Again, my targets would be Rosen (Gone), Mayfield (likely gone) and Rudolph (I believe he might be there when we pick.) We'll just have to wait and see what happens closer to the draft to figure out our course of action. A lot can happen between now and then.

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I think it's easier to replace mediocrity, than it is to replace an outgoing star, because the bar is set lower. Our QB bar here in Jacksonville is not that high. I'm not saying it'll be easy to try and find a replacement, I'm just saying we have to try. No team ever gets better by settling. 

I have been pretty vocal about my opposition to signing Cousins. Like you say, he's not special and he'd cost us a fortune. Alex Smith is showing that he's a good QB, when they actually get him a decent deep threat and let him throw the ball (this year), but the guy is in his mid 30's. To me, it would be a waste of a high draft pick (the cost it would take to get Smith), just to have him as a starter for a couple of years. 

The draft is the place to get a QB. Why is taking a QB in round 1, more risky to you than taking a TE in the same spot? I don't get it. The draft is a crapshoot, no matter which positional player you take. There are no guarantees. You just have to trust what you see. Personally, I see 3 of the most accurate rookie passers I've seen in years (Rosen, Mayfield and Rudolph). To me, accuracy is the #1 factor in selecting a QB. I want a guy who has the ability to place the football where only his WR can get it. I see that in these 3 guys. I don't see it consistently in any other QB in this draft. Darnold flashes it at times, but then he gets wildly inaccurate at other times. There are no developmental QB's in this draft either. Drafting a QB in round 3 on, would truly be a waste of a pick. I've seen almost every eligible QB in this draft (with the exception of some small school guys) and this draft is top heavy with the quality going straight off a cliff after round 1, possibly round 2 depending on who falls. 

Drafting a QB early does not mean we immediately replace Bortles. It means we are actively trying to bring in viable competition for him. Getting a "developmental guy" in the mid rounds is not viable competition. It's burning a draft pick on a guy who's ceiling may be the same as Chad Henne's was. What does that accomplish?

That's a lot of words to say the exact same thing that you've been saying.  I hope you're not trying to convince me of anything.

I'm not. I'm just trying to get you to tell me, why you think he'll be a consistent QB, before our window of opportunity closes? So far, I haven't heard that.

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I never, ever called the season mediocre. Get it right. I'm calling one starter on our team mediocre, because the stats and his performances on the field, prove he is mediocre. Luckily, to this point, we've had an elite defense which has been able to cover up for his faults. Thank God! Yes, he performed well last week and I'll admit that as I have said before, but he's been wildly inconsistent throughout his career. I just want to bring in competition that might prove to be more consistent at the QB position, so we don't have to rely on our defense to bail us out so often. Is that so wrong?

He has been inconsistent,  but signs look to be moving in the right direction.  And it was him that saved the defense in the fourth quarter Sunday, not the running game, like it or not,  BLAKE BORTLES saved the win for us!!

What signs are you talking about? We nearly lost the Buffalo game, because of his inconsistency. I'll admit he was pretty good when he needed to be against Pittsburgh, but he was far from consistent. Just look at the stats if you don't believe me. You never know what Blake Bortles is gonna show up from week to week, the guy who looks to be a word beater for short stretches or the guy who couldn't hit the side of a barn. It's almost like he's two different QB's in one body. One is like Eli Manning in his prime and the other is like Jamarcus Russell.

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I initially liked Bortles coming out of college all the way up to the 2016 season. At the time it seemed apparent to me that he didn't have it and his basic mechanics were ruined. This season completely reversed my perception of him. His mechanics are better, he's making strides and last week he played absolutely outstanding. He's earned his extension, it makes more sense for the team to keep him and evaluate his play next year. It's entirely possible he takes the next step and plays with a little more consistency and puts on a few shows like we saw last week. He has 4-5 games like that a season and comes in big during most of the big games there's really noone to upgrade him with outside obvious big names that we can't even get.

QBs take the longest out of any position to develop. If we let him walk I promise you there are plenty of teams that'll happily take him at this point. If we can make it to the Superbowl with Blake then I don't see why people will be so eager to get rid of him.

Compared to last season, the number of "get rid of him" posters has gone way down.

Let me make this clear, I'm not in the "get rid of him" category. I'm in the "we need a viable, immediate alternative plan", category. I just want to add real competition at the QB position. I'm not advocating cutting Bortles. I did at one point, but he deserves to stay throughout his current contract. I just want him to be able to fight off a real threat for his job and be more consistent. Who knows, it might push him to be better. So far, he's had absolutely no competition at QB, in his time here.

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Well the top 2 picks are projected to be quarterbacks. Do you suggest moving up 27 or more spots? Perhaps we could pull off a Rickey Williams type trade? I really like that idea, go from possibly winning it all to trying to develop a quarterback. Essentially starting over!! I realize you've seen almost every quarterback in this draft class (so you must own a television) , but so has anyone who watches college football.

Again, my targets would be Rosen (Gone), Mayfield (likely gone) and Rudolph (I believe he might be there when we pick.) We'll just have to wait and see what happens closer to the draft to figure out our course of action. A lot can happen between now and then.

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That's a lot of words to say the exact same thing that you've been saying.  I hope you're not trying to convince me of anything.

I'm not. I'm just trying to get you to tell me, why you think he'll be a consistent QB, before our window of opportunity closes? So far, I haven't heard that.

And what makes you so sure that the guys that you want them to draft will be either? Actually, you've already told me that they might not, which is exactly why I wouldn't waste a high pick.

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Again, my targets would be Rosen (Gone), Mayfield (likely gone) and Rudolph (I believe he might be there when we pick.) We'll just have to wait and see what happens closer to the draft to figure out our course of action. A lot can happen between now and then.

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I'm not. I'm just trying to get you to tell me, why you think he'll be a consistent QB, before our window of opportunity closes? So far, I haven't heard that.

And what makes you so sure that the guys that you want them to draft will be either? Actually, you've already told me that they might not, which is exactly why I wouldn't waste a high pick.

Exactly. None of those guys have ever stared down the barrel of a top flight NFL pass rush. And yet somehow they can provide the push that might make the current QB better?

Or, is it that someone hitched their wagon to the "Bortles must go" train, and is now justifying his position?

We ARE NOT dropping a high round draft pick (especially a 1st) on a project QB. And as someone who has seen ALL of the viable QBs available in the draft this year, the OP knows... They are ALL projects. None of these guys are pro ready... None of them. There may be a lot of QBs drafted this year, but most of them will never see extensive playing time in their careers.

Right now this team belongs to Blake Bortles. In good times and bad, for better or worse.

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Lol at using our first round pick on Rudolph

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He has been inconsistent,  but signs look to be moving in the right direction.  And it was him that saved the defense in the fourth quarter Sunday, not the running game, like it or not,  BLAKE BORTLES saved the win for us!!

What signs are you talking about? We nearly lost the Buffalo game, because of his inconsistency. I'll admit he was pretty good when he needed to be against Pittsburgh, but he was far from consistent. Just look at the stats if you don't believe me. You never know what Blake Bortles is gonna show up from week to week, the guy who looks to be a word beater for short stretches or the guy who couldn't hit the side of a barn. It's almost like he's two different QB's in one body. One is like Eli Manning in his prime and the other is like Jamarcus Russell.

Eli in his prime was a world beater?

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Bortles gets flak for his bad games. He doesn’t get enough credit for his overall performance. I could see them taking a flier on someone late but not early.

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What signs are you talking about? We nearly lost the Buffalo game, because of his inconsistency. I'll admit he was pretty good when he needed to be against Pittsburgh, but he was far from consistent. Just look at the stats if you don't believe me. You never know what Blake Bortles is gonna show up from week to week, the guy who looks to be a word beater for short stretches or the guy who couldn't hit the side of a barn. It's almost like he's two different QB's in one body. One is like Eli Manning in his prime and the other is like Jamarcus Russell.

Eli in his prime was a world beater?

You know what I mean. I certainly wasn't going to use Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, because on his very best day, Bortles has never been that good. Eli's ceiling is about where I'd put Blake on his best day

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Bortles gets flak for his bad games. He doesn’t get enough credit for his overall performance. I could see them taking a flier on someone late but not early.

There is no QB worth even wasting a pick on, late in the draft. The mid to late round QB's are garbage. I'd rather keep Henne and I hate that guy. Don't believe me? Just watch the East/West Shrine game or the NFLPA Collegiate game today. Those games featured the crop of "project" QB's that will be available in the middle and late rounds of the draft. They all were terrible. Both games were dominated by defenses and forced turnovers. If you're counting on developing a mid to late round QB, this is definitely NOT the draft to do it in.

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Eli in his prime was a world beater?

You know what I mean. I certainly wasn't going to use Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, because on his very best day, Bortles has never been that good. Eli's ceiling is about where I'd put Blake on his best day

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Bortles gets flak for his bad games. He doesn’t get enough credit for his overall performance. I could see them taking a flier on someone late but not early.

There is no QB worth even wasting a pick on, late in the draft. The mid to late round QB's are garbage. I'd rather keep Henne and I hate that guy.

Bortles ceiling is Tom Brady, but his floor is much lower. Maybe that’s what you are thinking. Both have posted 120+ QB ratings exactly 5 times this season. Bortles has a 3 game stretch where he was the best QB in the league. However Tom Brady doesn’t get held to under 100 yards and only 1 TD vs Buffalo.

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I believe he's our starter next season and I trust whatever the front office does regarding his contract.

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Eli in his prime was a world beater?

You know what I mean. I certainly wasn't going to use Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, because on his very best day, Bortles has never been that good. Eli's ceiling is about where I'd put Blake on his best day

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Bortles gets flak for his bad games. He doesn’t get enough credit for his overall performance. I could see them taking a flier on someone late but not early.

There is no QB worth even wasting a pick on, late in the draft. The mid to late round QB's are garbage. I'd rather keep Henne and I hate that guy.

So you mean a QB that won two Super Bowls?

Sign me up.

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You know what I mean. I certainly wasn't going to use Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, because on his very best day, Bortles has never been that good. Eli's ceiling is about where I'd put Blake on his best day

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There is no QB worth even wasting a pick on, late in the draft. The mid to late round QB's are garbage. I'd rather keep Henne and I hate that guy.

Bortles ceiling is Tom Brady, but his floor is much lower. Maybe that’s what you are thinking. Both have posted 120+ QB ratings exactly 5 times this season. Bortles has a 3 game stretch where he was the best QB in the league. However Tom Brady doesn’t get held to under 100 yards and only 1 TD vs Buffalo.

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You know what I mean. I certainly wasn't going to use Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, because on his very best day, Bortles has never been that good. Eli's ceiling is about where I'd put Blake on his best day

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There is no QB worth even wasting a pick on, late in the draft. The mid to late round QB's are garbage. I'd rather keep Henne and I hate that guy.

Bortles ceiling is Tom Brady, but his floor is much lower. Maybe that’s what you are thinking. Both have posted 120+ QB ratings exactly 5 times this season. Bortles has a 3 game stretch where he was the best QB in the league. However Tom Brady doesn’t get held to under 100 yards and only 1 TD vs Buffalo.

Look I like Blake, but that's just an asinine statement. NO ONE'S ceiling is Tom Brady.

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Bortles ceiling is Tom Brady, but his floor is much lower. Maybe that’s what you are thinking. Both have posted 120+ QB ratings exactly 5 times this season. Bortles has a 3 game stretch where he was the best QB in the league. However Tom Brady doesn’t get held to under 100 yards and only 1 TD vs Buffalo.

Look I like Blake, but that's just an asinine statement. NO ONE'S ceiling is Tom Brady.

I was responding to the post that said “on his best day” his ceiling is Eli Manning. I am not saying for a career he could be Tom Brady. Im saying in his good games his ceiling is Tom Bradyesq numbers (5 games with QB rating over 120). His bad games (his floor) is much much lower. In a single game basis (or 3 game stretch this season) he can hang with the best this year. You couldnt say that last year or even in the preseason this year.

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Only Alex Smith (6) had more 120+ QB rating games than Bortles (5) this year. Bortles is just wildly inconsistent from week to week. I no longer feel the team is doomed against great opponents but also don’t feel extremely confident against bad ones. It’s a weird feeling.

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Only Alex Smith (6) had more 120+ QB rating games than Bortles (5) this year. Bortles is just wildly inconsistent from week to week. I no longer feel the team is doomed against great opponents but also don’t feel extremely confident against bad ones. It’s a weird feeling.

I agree he's been somewhat of an enigma this season.

For me, it seems Blake has matured and progressed on and off the field since being drafted.  His press conferences show a lot more maturity, confidence and intelligence than years ago.  His play is still up and down but he has shown command of the offense and has made some (not too many) throws this season that were beautiful dimes.

I have no hesitation seeing him behind center next year.  It's been fun to watch and I'm rooting for his success.  He's a great guy and it'd be great to see him succeed!

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