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Poor Melania

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(03-23-2018, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 09:41 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Where is this hypocrisy? Are you assuming every Trump supporter is a conservative Christian or far right leaning? This is the problem today. There is a need to label everyone the same based on some ignorant self-imposed and mythic correlation.

Oh, so they're not hypocrites.   They're not just defending Trump.  They actually think if a man cheats on his wife, it's okay.  Only conservative Christians think that's a bad thing to do.  

I get it. 

No, then they're not hypocrites.   I stand corrected.   The Trump defenders in this thread have no morals, therefore they can't be hypocrites.   I didn't think of that.  Thanks for setting me straight on that.

I'm a Libertarian, so I don't care what they do; it's none of my business. Having morals doesn't give me the right to require that you conform to them.
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#22

Poor Melania lol
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(03-23-2018, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 09:41 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Where is this hypocrisy? Are you assuming every Trump supporter is a conservative Christian or far right leaning? This is the problem today. There is a need to label everyone the same based on some ignorant self-imposed and mythic correlation.

Oh, so they're not hypocrites.   They're not just defending Trump.  They actually think if a man cheats on his wife, it's okay.  Only conservative Christians think that's a bad thing to do.  

I get it. 

No, then they're not hypocrites.   I stand corrected.   The Trump defenders in this thread have no morals, therefore they can't be hypocrites.   I didn't think of that.  Thanks for setting me straight on that.
I think the issue is you are taking this too personal and based on your moral objectivity. You may also be assuming the man "cheats" and the relationship isn't an open one. Look, I don't care how they want to live, nor do I care how you live. Who are we to say what is right or wrong? My moral and ethical beliefs have no bearing on you, the President or anyone else; vice versa. Honestly, I'm reasonably certain performance in the sack and with whom and at what time really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...to most.
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(03-23-2018, 11:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 10:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Oh, so they're not hypocrites.   They're not just defending Trump.  They actually think if a man cheats on his wife, it's okay.  Only conservative Christians think that's a bad thing to do.  

I get it. 

No, then they're not hypocrites.   I stand corrected.   The Trump defenders in this thread have no morals, therefore they can't be hypocrites.   I didn't think of that.  Thanks for setting me straight on that.
I think the issue is you are taking this too personal and based on your moral objectivity. You may also be assuming the man "cheats" and the relationship isn't an open one. Look, I don't care how they want to live, nor do I care how you live. Who are we to say what is right or wrong? My moral and ethical beliefs have no bearing on you, the President or anyone else; vice versa. Honestly, I'm reasonably certain performance in the sack and with whom and at what time really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...to most.
I agree with almost everything you said.

However if Trump came out and said "Melania and I have an open marriage. We are both open to other partners." there would be so much backlash not only from Trumps haters but also from a ton of conservatives that voted for him.

I don't care what Trump does because tons of powerful men across this country cheat on their spouses. Athletes, actors, and men of office have clearly all done it. Mine and yours moral beliefs don't matter but the presidents do. It's how he earned millions of votes.
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(03-23-2018, 12:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 11:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote: I think the issue is you are taking this too personal and based on your moral objectivity. You may also be assuming the man "cheats" and the relationship isn't an open one. Look, I don't care how they want to live, nor do I care how you live. Who are we to say what is right or wrong? My moral and ethical beliefs have no bearing on you, the President or anyone else; vice versa. Honestly, I'm reasonably certain performance in the sack and with whom and at what time really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...to most.
I agree with almost everything you said.

However if Trump came out and said "Melania and I have an open marriage. We are both open to other partners." there would be so much backlash not only from Trumps haters but also from a ton of conservatives that voted for him.

I don't care what Trump does because tons of powerful men across this country cheat on their spouses. Athletes, actors, and men of office have clearly all done it. Mine and yours moral beliefs don't matter but the presidents do. It's how he earned millions of votes.

So you only care if he is Donald Trump. Got it, TDS diagnosis confirmed.
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Lol yeh, poor Melania can you imagine the stress associated with being able to spend all that money decisions decisions
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(03-23-2018, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 12:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: I agree with almost everything you said.

However if Trump came out and said "Melania and I have an open marriage. We are both open to other partners." there would be so much backlash not only from Trumps haters but also from a ton of conservatives that voted for him.

I don't care what Trump does because tons of powerful men across this country cheat on their spouses. Athletes, actors, and men of office have clearly all done it. Mine and yours moral beliefs don't matter but the presidents do. It's how he earned millions of votes.

So you only care if he is Donald Trump. Got it, TDS diagnosis confirmed.
Lol if that's what you gathered from what I wrote, go for it. 

"I don't care what Trump does"....
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#28

(03-23-2018, 08:30 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 08:00 AM)Jagwired Wrote: Not to mention they generally couldn't give two rats butts about the sanctity of marriage. The sorry [BLEEP] clintons proved that. I guess if it is the hated Trump though, well... you know.

So... should we give two rats butts about the sanctity of marriage or not?   Or should we forgive Bill Clinton because Trump also cheated on his wife?   What the heck does this have to do with liberals?  

I'm just saying, I feel sorry for Melania Trump.   She seems like a nice person who didn't want to be First Lady in the first place.  And now, all she gets is daily humiliation.

They think if they say "liberal" enough it will draw attention away from having to continue to make excuses for Donald's sleazeoid behavior. They're embarrassed they they have invested so much emotional capital they've got to go all in. No matter how desperate it makes them look.

Melania probably never thought life would take this turn. Before 2016 she could look the other way and live her life of the rich man's princess. Now I assume the prenup has her locked in. She doesn't want to return to a double-wide in Slovenia, lol.
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(03-23-2018, 12:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 11:56 AM)B2hibry Wrote: I think the issue is you are taking this too personal and based on your moral objectivity. You may also be assuming the man "cheats" and the relationship isn't an open one. Look, I don't care how they want to live, nor do I care how you live. Who are we to say what is right or wrong? My moral and ethical beliefs have no bearing on you, the President or anyone else; vice versa. Honestly, I'm reasonably certain performance in the sack and with whom and at what time really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things...to most.
I agree with almost everything you said.

However if Trump came out and said "Melania and I have an open marriage. We are both open to other partners." there would be so much backlash not only from Trumps haters but also from a ton of conservatives that voted for him.

I don't care what Trump does because tons of powerful men across this country cheat on their spouses. Athletes, actors, and men of office have clearly all done it. Mine and yours moral beliefs don't matter but the presidents do. It's how he earned millions of votes.
Agree there should be a traditional Presidential persona. I just don't believe there should be so much focus on it. In any case, it appears it will only matter for one term anyways. He's slowly sinking into the swamp!
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(03-23-2018, 02:12 PM)B2hibry Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 12:04 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: I agree with almost everything you said.

However if Trump came out and said "Melania and I have an open marriage. We are both open to other partners." there would be so much backlash not only from Trumps haters but also from a ton of conservatives that voted for him.

I don't care what Trump does because tons of powerful men across this country cheat on their spouses. Athletes, actors, and men of office have clearly all done it. Mine and yours moral beliefs don't matter but the presidents do. It's how he earned millions of votes.
Agree there should be a traditional Presidential persona. I just don't believe there should be so much focus on it. In any case, it appears it will only matter for one term anyways. He's slowly sinking into the swamp!

His sink has been far from slow.  He's been in the swamp the entire time.  It's been so painfully obvious from day one.
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(03-23-2018, 03:58 PM)JaguarKick Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 02:12 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Agree there should be a traditional Presidential persona. I just don't believe there should be so much focus on it. In any case, it appears it will only matter for one term anyways. He's slowly sinking into the swamp!

His sink has been far from slow.  He's been in the swamp the entire time.  It's been so painfully obvious from day one.

I was wonder who would be the one. So you are going to be the one that has been absent and now will go around to every thread with an "I told ya so"? This is not a celebratory moment deserving a beating of the chest no matter where you sit.
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IF any of the alleged affairs happened over 10 years ago, I really don't care.  That's between Mr. and Mrs. Trump and is really none of my business.  Also, what may or may not have happened over 10 years ago has nothing to do with what is happening today.  I mean, it's not like President Trump was recently "intimate" in The Oval Office with an intern or anything.

This is all just the left and the left-leaning media trying to "dig up dirt" on The President in order to change public perception.

Consider this... and I am not saying that it's the case but it's a possibility.  What if the far left media paid a porn star and a Playboy model to tell this story, just so they have "a story"?  So far President Trump has denied the allegations, so all there is is a "he said she said" scenario.

As far as the "gold digger" comments... well, in my opinion those are off base.  After all she did give birth to a son and also was a step-mother to children from her husband's prior marriage.  She also made a very good income as a model prior to her marriage to Donald Trump.

The bottom line is this "news story" has somewhat accomplished it's goal in order to further polarize the far left and the far right low information voters.  The results can be seen in this very thread.


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#33

I've seen some ridiculous memes lately.. one saying it's ridiculous to not care about Donald Trump's affairs while caring about what Bill Clinton did. HYPOCRITES!

That's just moronic. Billy Clinton did it in the oval office and abused his position of ultimate power to RAPE women. In the oval office. IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

Trump did this crap before he was President? I don't care. At all. Let me know when he sticks a cigar inside a woman in the oval office....
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(03-23-2018, 05:29 PM)B2hibry Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 03:58 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: His sink has been far from slow.  He's been in the swamp the entire time.  It's been so painfully obvious from day one.

I was wonder who would be the one. So you are going to be the one that has been absent and now will go around to every thread with an "I told ya so"? This is not a celebratory moment deserving a beating of the chest no matter where you sit.

I agree, 100%.  I haven't been so much discussing things on here, but I've had multiple discussions with many on facebook.  I've argued with people who call Trump Hitler and people who believe he's leading America to a golden age.  Both are equally wrong.

And no, I'm not going anywhere with "I told you so."  Being right from day one really doesn't help me or anyone else.  I couldn't believe Trump was elected, but was willing to give him a shot until Betsy DeVos became his secretary of education.  At that point, I was done.  It's been really easy to see how poorly he's been leading since--only now conservatives are starting to see it unravel, too.
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#35

Still better than Shrilly.
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(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018, 06:19 AM by The Real Marty.)

(03-23-2018, 06:44 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: IF any of the alleged affairs happened over 10 years ago, I really don't care.  That's between Mr. and Mrs. Trump and is really none of my business.  Also, what may or may not have happened over 10 years ago has nothing to do with what is happening today.  I mean, it's not like President Trump was recently "intimate" in The Oval Office with an intern or anything.

This is all just the left and the left-leaning media trying to "dig up dirt" on The President in order to change public perception.

Consider this... and I am not saying that it's the case but it's a possibility.  What if the far left media paid a porn star and a Playboy model to tell this story, just so they have "a story"?  So far President Trump has denied the allegations, so all there is is a "he said she said" scenario.

As far as the "gold digger" comments... well, in my opinion those are off base.  After all she did give birth to a son and also was a step-mother to children from her husband's prior marriage.  She also made a very good income as a model prior to her marriage to Donald Trump.

The bottom line is this "news story" has somewhat accomplished it's goal in order to further polarize the far left and the far right low information voters.  The results can be seen in this very thread.

Trump's own lawyer has admitted that he paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 for her silence.   Also, there is an agreement signed by her and Trump's own lawyer, and Trump's lawyers are still actively trying to hold her to that agreement.   So how can there be any thought that this is a set up by the "far left media?"  Unless they just decided to make a nice $130,000 gift to some porn star for no reason at all.

And I agree with you about Melania.   She truly seems like a very nice person, who doesn't deserve to be called "gold digger" or have her motives questioned.   She's the victim here.
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(03-23-2018, 07:10 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: One has to wonder, at what point does Melania file for divorce.   She never wanted to be first lady in the first place.   And so far,  it's been one humiliation after another. 

Stormy Daniels.   Now Karen McDougal.  

Maybe there's some sort of prenup that's locking Melania into this marriage.   I don't know.   But she's a beautiful woman and apparently a very nice person.  She deserves better than this.  

I understand why Hillary stayed with Bill.  Hillary wanted a political future.  But Melania?  She's not the same kind of person as Hillary.    When will she say, enough's enough, and file for divorce?

Let's see........hot woman married to a much older buffoon (who happens to be worth billions.).  What could it possibly be, other than true love?

If he worked at Home Depot, do you honestly believe that she ever would have married him in the first place?
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(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018, 08:54 AM by The Real Marty.)

(03-24-2018, 07:51 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 07:10 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: One has to wonder, at what point does Melania file for divorce.   She never wanted to be first lady in the first place.   And so far,  it's been one humiliation after another. 

Stormy Daniels.   Now Karen McDougal.  

Maybe there's some sort of prenup that's locking Melania into this marriage.   I don't know.   But she's a beautiful woman and apparently a very nice person.  She deserves better than this.  

I understand why Hillary stayed with Bill.  Hillary wanted a political future.  But Melania?  She's not the same kind of person as Hillary.    When will she say, enough's enough, and file for divorce?

Let's see........hot woman married to a much older buffoon (who happens to be worth billions.).  What could it possibly be, other than true love?

If he worked at Home Depot, do you honestly believe that she ever would have married him in the first place?

Probably not, because he wouldn't be the same person.   His type of person does not work at Home Depot.  

There are a lot of things that make a person "attractive."   The money he has is a result of self-confidence and ability.   The money isn't who he is, it's a symptom of who he is, and I don't doubt that she married him because after the initial attraction, she loved him.   Just because a person has things about them that are attractive, that doesn't mean they can't find true love.   I was attracted to my wife because she was cute and smart.  But that's not why I married her.  Something had to happen beyond that.  

Just adding up the attractive qualities in a person and saying, that's why they got married, under that formula, the more attractive qualities a person has, the more cynical your view of why they got married.  But that's way too cynical.   Trump was a handsome, successful guy, and from all reports, he can be very charming.   That's probably why he had a chance with Melania.  But just giving a guy a chance isn't enough.   They probably found some chemistry between them, opened their hearts, and found love.

What's really notable is how so many Trump supporters in this thread are willing to call the First Lady a prostitute.   But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, in the upside down world of Trump supporters, where lies are called truth and truth is called lies, Trump cheats on Melania, therefore Melania is a whore.
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(03-23-2018, 07:44 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: You leave out the fact that Melania was and is a gold digger.


No kidding, who would marry that piece of [BLEEP] if he didn't have money?

Seriously, it's not fair to call Melania a gold digger. She seems to be a nice person who loves her child. She was a successful millionaire before they married.
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(03-23-2018, 11:50 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Still better than Shrilly.

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