If it puts Lee on the bench where he deserves, I'm o.k. with it. There wasn't much to pick from, considering the targets that were already chosen by other teams.

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If it puts Lee on the bench where he deserves, I'm o.k. with it. There wasn't much to pick from, considering the targets that were already chosen by other teams.

It's more likely to put Westbrook in the slot as a number three.

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If it puts Lee on the bench where he deserves, I'm o.k. with it. There wasn't much to pick from, considering the targets that were already chosen by other teams.

It's more likely to put Westbrook in the slot as a number three.

As long as it makes Cole and Ridley the #1 and #2, I'm fine with it.

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It's more likely to put Westbrook in the slot as a number three.

As long as it makes Cole and Ridley the #1 and #2, I'm fine with it.

I have a feeling you're not gonna like how the WR lineup shakes out lol

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As long as it makes Cole and Ridley the #1 and #2, I'm fine with it.

I have a feeling you're not gonna like how the WR lineup shakes out lol

You're probably right. I just don't understand why you would take away from the playing time of two really promising second year receivers (Cole and Westbrook), in order to play a disappointing posession receiver with bad hands (Lee)?

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I have a feeling you're not gonna like how the WR lineup shakes out lol

You're probably right. I just don't understand why you would take away from the playing time of two really promising second year receivers (Cole and Westbrook), in order to play a disappointing posession receiver with bad hands (Lee)?

1  - Lee beats the press much better than either of those guys
2 - he's only displayed "bad hands" in part of  one season - He was consistent catching the ball down the stretch last season
3 - all these guys will get time, the hand-wringing over how much seems really silly to me
4 - He's more dynamic than your "possession receiver" label suggests
5 - If Lee's not getting it done, do you really not trust the coaching staff to give more reps to the other talent available?

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I would be fine with Ridley. He would be another Alabama prospect that fell perfectly into our hands for the second straight year in a row. He's been a pretty consistent player in college. I don't think he's Amari Cooper or Julio Jones but then again both of those guys played with better passers in college. Hurts isn't really a drop back and pass it kind of QB and that's not how Saban likes his offenses to begin with.

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I have a feeling you're not gonna like how the WR lineup shakes out lol

You're probably right. I just don't understand why you would take away from the playing time of two really promising second year receivers (Cole and Westbrook), in order to play a disappointing posession receiver with bad hands (Lee)?

Cole, Westbrook, Mickens, Wynn
all showed a lil bit at times last year (wynn in preseason and TC)
They'll all have a chance to earn more playing time and I would think the best receivers will see the field the most. If it is Cole and Westbrook so be it.
But Lee had a lot of drops last year in the beginning and middle of the season and didn't record another drop after like week 9 or 10.

I'm not a big Lee fan either. But he's the tenured guy in the WR group and he has a skill set different than Cole and Westbrook... I don't think Lee will limit their playing time any. 
There's also Moncrief who signed a deal that suggests they expect him to be on the field a lot.

But outside of a few plays, Westbrook didn't show a lot last season to deem him the automatic #1 or #2. And honestly, Cole had a stretch of like 3 good games and was pretty absent outside of that. Mickens had 1 game where he nabbed 3 TDs or something and was invisible mostly otherwise.

I don't see how anyone could say Westbrook and Cole are clearly better receivers and deserving of the #1 roster spot heading into camp.
But you could say they deserve the chance to compete (which they will) and I doubt the contract of Lee and Moncrief will keep those guys on the bench if they are clearly playing better

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Mr 8 and 3 Mr Lee.

@Caldrac, I agree Ridley is not Cooper or Jones. Not even close. Jones was a physical specimen. Cooper was a notch below Jones. And then there's Ridley.

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I took what I felt was the BAP, Ridley would not be my first choice but considering who was selected before I felt that Ridley was a good value here. I considered Mike Hughes and James Daniels but felt as if they weren't needs either so went back to BAP. I do love DJ Moore but Ridley is better

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Wow. I just read where Ridley ran a 4.44 at the combine. That's decent speed. And he's good at putting his foot in the ground and making a move for more yards. He's got solid hands. He catches balls out in front of him and pulls them in with ease.

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Wow. I just read where Ridley ran a 4.44 at the combine. That's decent speed. And he's good at putting his foot in the ground and making a move for more yards. He's got solid hands. He catches balls out in front of him and pulls them in with ease.

I know... they knock him for only running a 4.43 or 4.44 because they projected him to be so much faster given how fast he looks on tape. The thing is, that's decent speed, and the fact that he looks so much faster on tape is a bonus as it means he has football speed.  

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Wow. I just read where Ridley ran a 4.44 at the combine. That's decent speed. And he's good at putting his foot in the ground and making a move for more yards. He's got solid hands. He catches balls out in front of him and pulls them in with ease.

I know... they knock him for only running a 4.43 or 4.44 because they projected him to be so much faster given how fast he looks on tape. The thing is, that's decent speed, and the fact that he looks so much faster on tape is a bonus as it means he has football speed.  

I haven't heard anyone knock him for his speed. The one huge knock on him was that he was shorter than expected at the Combine. I like Ridley a lot, but at only 6' tall, I'd pass. I really think the Jags would be better served with a tall WR who can catch fades in the endzone.

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I know... they knock him for only running a 4.43 or 4.44 because they projected him to be so much faster given how fast he looks on tape. The thing is, that's decent speed, and the fact that he looks so much faster on tape is a bonus as it means he has football speed.  

I haven't heard anyone knock him for his speed. The one huge knock on him was that he was shorter than expected at the Combine. I like Ridley a lot, but at only 6' tall, I'd pass. I really think the Jags would be better served with a tall WR who can catch fades in the endzone.

I think we would be in search of speedy receivers.  It seems to me that we have QB's currently on the roster that extend plays to buy time for speedy receivers to get open.

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I know... they knock him for only running a 4.43 or 4.44 because they projected him to be so much faster given how fast he looks on tape. The thing is, that's decent speed, and the fact that he looks so much faster on tape is a bonus as it means he has football speed.  

I haven't heard anyone knock him for his speed. The one huge knock on him was that he was shorter than expected at the Combine. I like Ridley a lot, but at only 6' tall, I'd pass. I really think the Jags would be better served with a tall WR who can catch fades in the endzone.

The write-ups on him are pretty consistent tho where they all pretty much agree to not knock him so much for his height because he's so darn good at getting separation.

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I haven't heard anyone knock him for his speed. The one huge knock on him was that he was shorter than expected at the Combine. I like Ridley a lot, but at only 6' tall, I'd pass. I really think the Jags would be better served with a tall WR who can catch fades in the endzone.

The write-ups on him are pretty consistent tho where they all pretty much agree to not knock him so much for his height because he's so darn good at getting separation.

Separation is great.

But the Jags have plenty of receivers that get separation. (despite unpopular myth from the ill-informed) 
They need another guy that wins the height mismatch in the redzone, highpoints jump-balls well, and dominates the jam vs physical DBs at the line.  They are missing  ^ that. They aren't missing "separation."

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The write-ups on him are pretty consistent tho where they all pretty much agree to not knock him so much for his height because he's so darn good at getting separation.

Separation is great.

But the Jags have plenty of receivers that get separation. (despite unpopular myth from the ill-informed) 
They need another guy that wins the height mismatch in the redzone, highpoints jump-balls well, and dominates the jam vs physical DBs at the line.  They are missing  ^ that. They aren't missing "separation."

St. Brown early ish (round 2 maybe)
or Auden Tate later like round 4.
Both of these guys need some work (or a lot of work) with route running and will need a year to fully develop but could be good RZ targets with their size.
I also like DJ Chark as a possibility.

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I like Simmie Cobbs out of Indiana. Big body receiver, decent speed and can go up and get it. Can probably land him in RD4 as well.

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WR would not be my preference in round 1, but if Calvin Ridley fell to #29, I would love to take him, depending of course on who else was available. I'd be very surprised if he fell that far.

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The write-ups on him are pretty consistent tho where they all pretty much agree to not knock him so much for his height because he's so darn good at getting separation.

Separation is great.

But the Jags have plenty of receivers that get separation. (despite unpopular myth from the ill-informed) 
They need another guy that wins the height mismatch in the redzone, highpoints jump-balls well, and dominates the jam vs physical DBs at the line.  They are missing  ^ that. They aren't missing "separation."

Do we though? 

 Cole got separation last year sure. Moncrief doesn't separate consistently on his routes (even though he is fast. Route running is meh. Lee only gets separation on crossers, and Dedes sample in the NFL is pretty small although he flashed some and was v good at it in college.

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