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(04-03-2018, 09:45 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote:(04-02-2018, 10:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Nice. One guy I hope they take is Townsend from Florida. He'd be an upgrade over Nortman and will save the team money. They may need to trade up to the 6th round with their 2 7th round picks. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-03-2018, 09:45 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote:(04-02-2018, 10:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Nice. Interesting that DT Curtis Cothran is the only DL on the list. Looking at his bio, Cothron is a bit skinny for a DT unable to provide any real run support at the spot, but he's a gifted interior pass rusher.
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(04-03-2018, 08:50 PM)Jags02 Wrote:(04-03-2018, 09:45 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote: I’ve compiled a list from a bunch of different sites and here are the guys the Jags have visited with: I think it's also interesting that none of the WRs on the list appear to be first round guys (i.e. Ridley, DJ Moore, Sutton). Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
I'd be bummed if we took a te in round one. They take way too long to develop. Plus what do y'all like about Hurst and Andrews? Andrews runs the sloppiest routes out of every te prospect I've watched and all Hurst does is catch pop passes, flats and crossers. Why would we take an h back in the first round?
OC/G Billy Price and LB Kenny Young were in to visit today.
https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2018/04...wednesday/
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Another Will/ST. Sams and Mikes seem to be slim pickings.
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Based on the visits/meetings they're making sure our 3rd Lb is a coverage guy first and foremost. Rashaan Evans is the only traditional strong side, his skillset is intriguing as he could also replace Fowler off the EDGE. Play strong side on obvious runs then move to EDGE in nickel and obvious passing downs. Not bad in coverage either.
(04-04-2018, 08:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: Based on the visits/meetings they're making sure our 3rd Lb is a coverage guy first and foremost. Rashaan Evans is the only traditional strong side, his skillset is intriguing as he could also replace Fowler off the EDGE. Play strong side on obvious runs then move to EDGE in nickel and obvious passing downs. Not bad in coverage either. Didn't realize we met with Evans. Griffin can do it all too We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(04-03-2018, 05:21 PM)JackCity Wrote: Crosby could well be in play at #29. He's a mauler. Could play guard in year 1 before sliding across to RT. Or just stay there. I hope not, that would be a pretty big reach. He was a bit erratic at the Senior Bowl. I believe there will be some much better prospects available at #29. Now if he fell to #61, he'd be a strong consideration.
https://twitter.com/mike_e_kaye/status/9...83424?s=19
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(04-03-2018, 09:45 AM)HolsterHusto Wrote:(04-02-2018, 10:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Nice. So by this list: Ist OL/QB/TE 2nd OL/TE 3rd OLB 4th WR 6th P/CB 7th CB/P
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Your thoughts become your words, Your words become your actions, Your actions become your habits, Your habits become your values, Your values become your destiny. (04-04-2018, 08:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: Based on the visits/meetings they're making sure our 3rd Lb is a coverage guy first and foremost. Rashaan Evans is the only traditional strong side, his skillset is intriguing as he could also replace Fowler off the EDGE. Play strong side on obvious runs then move to EDGE in nickel and obvious passing downs. Not bad in coverage either. You also have to consider as far as the LB visits go, most if not all are also good special teamers - meaning they are looking for bubble guys who might make the roster on ST and depth. The more boxes you check helps you make the team. We're going to have a very hard time finding a sam from this crop of LBs, that seem to be getting weaker and weaker. You're not seeing colleges produce the sams the NFL needs any longer. So, the NFL is having to make due with what's there. As I've always said about the draft... you can't manufacture players. You draft the player when available to you, not when it's convenient. It could be some time before we find a stud sam. I'd wager our starting sam is already on the roster this season. JaG4LyFe Wrote: So by this list: Ist OL/QB/TE 2nd OL/TE 3rd OLB 4th WR 6th P/CB 7th CB/P -------------------------------------------------------- ^^ I would take this all day, everyday. ^^
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(04-10-2018, 04:51 PM)pirkster Wrote:(04-04-2018, 08:20 PM)JackCity Wrote: Based on the visits/meetings they're making sure our 3rd Lb is a coverage guy first and foremost. Rashaan Evans is the only traditional strong side, his skillset is intriguing as he could also replace Fowler off the EDGE. Play strong side on obvious runs then move to EDGE in nickel and obvious passing downs. Not bad in coverage either. It's more so that the skillset and position of sam is becoming redundant in the modern game. Most of the time you only have 2 LBs on the field and they generally go to your best coverage players. True 2 down LBs are one of the least valuable positions now. Makes more sense to ensure you have 3 startable LBs who can run + cover even if they aren't the classic Sam size or skillset. If you can find one with all of those traits then great but it's not expected.
https://twitter.com/NFLDraftInsider/stat...9179103233
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https://twitter.com/pacificscouting/stat...25568?s=19
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(04-10-2018, 05:01 PM)JackCity Wrote:(04-10-2018, 04:51 PM)pirkster Wrote: You also have to consider as far as the LB visits go, most if not all are also good special teamers - meaning they are looking for bubble guys who might make the roster on ST and depth. The more boxes you check helps you make the team. It's really a shame what college is doing to the NFL game. They aren't producing the players the NFL prefers. NFL is forced to change in response. It's making players more difficult to evaluate, and also causing them to do remedial coaching and changing their schemes and playbooks to better suit what's coming out. Sams just fall later in the draft as a result. Fewer to choose from, lower versatility, lower priority, lower draft cost. College turned football into a track meet, and that's forced the NFL being to reflect that as well. They're forced to change to best use what's available. College is producing less than ideal talent, generally speaking. They line up the athletes and outscore the opponent. It's one of the reasons it's felt that OL talent is dropping and many are struggling in the NFL. Savvy coaches and GMs can use this to their advantage when rebuilding a team. It's what brought about the popularity of the 3-4. Instead of having distinct role players sam, will, and mike... you can place less than ideal players into productive roles. Same for DL. You only need an NT instead of two DTs. Your ends can be cast off LEs and/or undersized DTs that aren't valued by 4-3 teams. Your ILBs can be made of MLBs that don't have sideline to sideline talent. Your OLBs can be tweeners that find it hard to be productive with their hand down in a 4-3. You can build it quickly on a relative bargain. That's not to say you can't put prototypical talent in those positions... you certainly can. It's just more helpful to a 4-3 to have closer to the prototype than not. With 3-4, you can get by a lot easier without prototypes with your front seven.
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(04-12-2018, 04:47 PM)pirkster Wrote: It's really a shame what college is doing to the NFL game. They aren't producing the players the NFL prefers. I get your point, but this seems like so much "victim mentality" to me. Yes, there are standards for what it takes to be on a an NFL roster, but to imply that coaches employed by the NFL can't get NFL-caliber athletes to perform at a necessary level is the worst kind of mindset. Look at what Scarnecchia does in New England. They rotate people through that O-Line like no one else and always put a quality performance on the field. Yes, bad players exist, but at some point you have to wonder at the level of coaching these players are getting.
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