After watching some of the condensed game, in just now realizing that NO scored their first td with their starters (minus Brees) against our second string defense.

I'm not worried about the defense one bit. We were down 4 DL

On offense it looked really good, gave up some pressure from the backup RT though. My biggest concern for the team, as it has been through camp, is OL depth

Yes. I was laughing.
They kept their starters (not all but a lot of them) in for 3 series on each side (O&D). 

Brees didn't play. And I'm not sure if Peat is their starting LT but he was inactive. And Cameron Meredith WR was out.
And on D for them I think 1st rdr Davenport sat out.
The rest of their inactive list are dudes I've never heard of and old man Ben Watson.
Oh and Catfish Teo.


Payton was likely unhappy with the O and D after the first two drives ended with a TD for us and only a FG for them.
So they got some extra reps.

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First team defense was concerning. But i have confidence they'll work out the kinks.

Yeah I wouldn't worry yet...

First team defense was concerning. But i have confidence they'll work out the kinks.

Missing Poz already...

Nah not really... It was more alarming the amount of plays they made with Savage at QB through the air and the seemingly lack of pass rush from our first unit.

I'm not saying Lee was anywhere close to good...but was the line supposed to be blocking while he was in the game?

Having only watched the game by the play-by-play log, this was going to be my biggest question.  Was Lee overwhelmed, was he holding the ball too long, or was the line just wet cardboard?  The PBP was doubleplusungood, that was for certain.

Still, 3rd QB, first pro reps, if that is the biggest concern we have in preseason, this is going to be a great year.

Yeah.... if we're sweating the 3rd QB... we are way ahead of last year.

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Appreciated the highlights on the main site. I have the DVR set for NFL Network replay. Thanks for all the updates. Team looked settled in the highlights. That is something after all these years.

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Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011

Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past.

Man am I glad the football season has finally begun!  Even though it's "just preseason," being able to discuss and debate actual football games as opposed to kicking around subjects during the off season rejuvenates the spirit of football fans everywhere.  In any event, enough of my preamble.  Here are my thoughts.

1.  Call me a traditionalist if you must, but the teal and white combination will always be my favorite uniform.  Even though there have been changes to the teal and white uniform (stripes on pants, tubing on jerseys, etc), as a Jaguars fan, I most readily identify with that color combination.  It was good to see the team sporting that look.

2.  I have always imagined the Jaguars hoisting their first championship banner.  Even though we have won divisional championships before, the team didn't put up any such banners-until now.  For those of you not at the game, the banners were flags-rather than banners- put on a flagpole in the south end zone in the east corner-the side opposite the bell the veterans ring to start the 4th quarter.  There were four in all-starting from the top:  A general Jaguars team flag, and one each commemorating each of the team's three divisional titles, with the most recent one at the top.  Here's hoping they have three more up at this time next year-one for the divisional title, one for the conference title, and one for the long overdue World Championship!!!

3.  For those of us who were concerned about how the offense would look, tonight, the first team offense was impressive.  Granted, it was week one of preseason, and undoubtedly there were starters from the Saints defense that likely did not play.  Nevertheless, the offense was impressive.  Fournette ran the ball well, and even gained yardage when there was a collision in the backfield between he and Bortles.  Bortles seemed to exhibit a command of the offense and a confidence we haven't seen in quite some time.  He completed 6-9 by my count, and the incompletions were accurate.  I think all of them were somehow either deflected at the last second by a defender, or on a sideline pattern, Westbrook didn't come down with it, even though many in the stadium felt Marrone should have challenged the call.  Bortles attacked short, intermediate, and deep.  The offensive line provided very good running lanes and good protection.  Lee, Westbrook, Moncrief and O Shaughnessy contributed receptions.  Over the years, there were preseason performances by the first team offense that has sent the Jaguars fan base into a collective hissy fit.  This definitely was NOT one of those times. With the usual caveats about preseason football being hopefully being universally understood by this point, Jaguars fans feeling pretty good about the offense coming out of this game is understandable.

4.  Conversely, I have to say I was mildly disappointed in the defense.  Going up against a Saints team without the services of Drew Brees, the Saints seemed to have surprising success moving the ball down the field and into scoring range.  Granted, the same caveats about guys like Campbell not playing and it being in preseason apply to the defense, and I don't know what the hell the refs saw in calling hands to the face against Ramsey.  But I was hoping for a little more from the strength of our team.

5.  For a game that was the first preseason game of the season, with a bunch of new rules to be implemented-seemingly without much in the way of explanation to the teams and fans from the league-, this was a game mercifully low in penalties. 

6.  Speaking of the new rules, I wonder if the new rules governing the blocking of kickoff returns somehow played a role in the seemingly poor kickoff coverage tonight.  The Saints had several good returns that put them in good field position to start drives.  But this is usually one of those things that tend to improve as the preseason  progresses.  On a more positive ST note...Lambo was his usual seemingly automatic self.

7.  Rookie Watch:

• Taven Bryan-DNP
  
• D.J. Chark-Had one catch for decent yardage, made noteworthy by his fight for extra yards and refusal to go down.  Chark later had a great tackle on a punt.  If these two plays are a true indication of a blue collar work ethic, assuming he stays out of trouble and learns the WR position, it's easy to see him becoming a fan favorite here.
  
• Ronnie Harrison-I saw him in the game, but he did not really stand out.
  
• Will Richardson-I did not see him in the game at all.
  
• Tanner Lee-I preface this by acknowledging I may well be unfair here, but when he entered the game, I had zero faith he would do anything positive.  In fact, as I think back on this game, all of the bad stuff happened when he entered the game.
  
• Leon Jacobs-saw him in early, but did not see him do much.
  
• Logan Cooke-Continues to look light years beyond what I saw the first padded practice of the year.
  

More later.

Great info and opinions as always. One thing I have to push back on though is the defense. Remember, they don't really game plan for these games; up until game 3. These games are mostly there to see, test, and compare. So I wouldn't have any disappointment about the defense. If come game 3 or even game 1 of reg season and there's similar issues or something, then maybe. But even then still, remember, even though we had a great defense last year, they are starting fresh and need to rekindle that magic from last. It may take some time to be what we were last year. We need to provide some patience to that. Even though it's hard to think that with the way they played last year.

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

Went to game for first half....followed on radio and finally TV.

First team moved along shaking off the dust from last season.....but way ahead of last pre season. Looked like everyone was working together.

Not nearly worried about Kessler as I was.....seemed relaxed running the Jags Offense.

Chark's a fighter

TE situation is better.

Defense....they'll come around....first penalty on #20....replay... wth?

where was the O-line for poor Lee? and when he hit the ground going forward (which was a lot) ...he coughed it up alot.
Guess they're not called "developmental"  for no reason.....hopefully won't see him for a while

Seemed like NO kept their ones and twos in longer.

Looking forward to good season ......now when we're ahead in a game.....we might actually score with our backup QB

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Because Jaguars is our mantra 

So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

Was Vic right all along...?

[HORRIFIED GASP]"

Why not run with the herd and drop the name Donte Moncrief a couple of times?

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Went to game for first half....followed on radio and finally TV.



TE situation is better.

Orndoff is an incredible talent find.

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So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

Was Vic right all along...?

[HORRIFIED GASP]"

Well... I dunno if I'm all-in on the idea but I always tended to agree, especially when it comes to breaking the bank for one.

If you have a good QB that can get the ball there... all they have to do is catch it.
The only caveat is when you have those rare specimens that give you size, speed, catch radius, all in one.
Outside of that... don't use first rounders on em... And don't pay em 20 mil a year lol

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Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

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Well... I dunno if I'm all-in on the idea but I always tended to agree, especially when it comes to breaking the bank for one.

If you have a good QB that can get the ball there... all they have to do is catch it.
The only caveat is when you have those rare specimens that give you size, speed, catch radius, all in one.
Outside of that... don't use first rounders on em... And don't pay em 20 mil a year lol

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Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

Maybe... maybe not.

Yes, our WRs seem improved as a whole from last year to this one.

But it is still quite early, and ultimately we still don't know if any of them can take over the game or make the big play like the Julio Jones catch in the Super Bowl.

I am betting Atlanta doesn't regret the Jones trade for a second.  I am betting Arizona doesn't regret the 3rd overall pick they spent on Fitzgerald.  I am betting Vic's favorite team doesn't regret the first round picks spent on guys like Swann and Holmes who helped them win Super Bowls.  I'm certain the 1990s Cowboys don't regret the high draft expenditures on Irvin, Harper, and Kevin Williams in winning those 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, nor the 49ers in trading up for a guy named Rice.

History is replete with talented teams that tried the dime a dozen approach to receivers and could never get over the hump because their guys outside couldn't make plays when needed.  (See Marty era Browns and Chiefs; see also Mora era Saints).

Improvement of the Jaguars receivers from 1-5 and years away from Vic does not mitigate his folly on this issue.  He was wrong then and he's wrong now.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

Was Vic right all along...?

[HORRIFIED GASP]"

I don't think that we can come to that conclusion now, after so many years of Laurant Robinsons, Mike Simms Walkers, Mike Thomas', Cecil Shorts, Jarrad Dillards, Ace Sanders', Mike Browns, Tiquan Underwoods', Neal Sterlings and Jordan Shipleys.

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You Gotta Be Able To Run Da' Rock~

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Well... I dunno if I'm all-in on the idea but I always tended to agree, especially when it comes to breaking the bank for one.

If you have a good QB that can get the ball there... all they have to do is catch it.
The only caveat is when you have those rare specimens that give you size, speed, catch radius, all in one.
Outside of that... don't use first rounders on em... And don't pay em 20 mil a year lol

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Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

In My Humble Opinion,

I think the overall stats (as quoted above) don't really represent what A++ receivers can do. I think that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzpatrick, Andre Johnson, et al are the type of WRs when the called play goes bad the QB can "huck" it to, realizing it will be received or batted down.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

The game last night left me with one main thought, which is that the Jaguars give up a lot of size on their starting defense due to having Telvin and Ngakoue in the lineup. It's probably why defending the run had been the team's Achilles heel and the titans have managed so well against us. They can't pass will anyway and their main advantages are a big back, big line, and a running QB.

I'm thinking the team might plan to get a bigger lineup on first downs and bring Ngakoue in on sub packages.

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Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

In My Humble Opinion,

I think the overall stats (as quoted above) don't really represent what A++ receivers can do. I think that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzpatrick, Andre Johnson, et al are the type of WRs when the called play goes bad the QB can "huck" it to, realizing it will be received or batted down.

Absolutely.

Football is about matchups.  That also applies to receivers.

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So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

Was Vic right all along...?

[HORRIFIED GASP]"

I don't think that we can come to that conclusion now, after so many years of Laurant Robinsons, Mike Simms Walkers, Mike Thomas', Cecil Shorts, Jarrad Dillards, Ace Sanders', Mike Browns, Tiquan Underwoods', Neal Sterlings and Jordan Shipleys.

This.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

Maybe... maybe not.

Yes, our WRs seem improved as a whole from last year to this one.

But it is still quite early, and ultimately we still don't know if any of them can take over the game or make the big play like the Julio Jones catch in the Super Bowl.

I am betting Atlanta doesn't regret the Jones trade for a second.  I am betting Arizona doesn't regret the 3rd overall pick they spent on Fitzgerald.  I am betting Vic's favorite team doesn't regret the first round picks spent on guys like Swann and Holmes who helped them win Super Bowls.  I'm certain the 1990s Cowboys don't regret the high draft expenditures on Irvin, Harper, and Kevin Williams in winning those 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, nor the 49ers in trading up for a guy named Rice.

History is replete with talented teams that tried the dime a dozen approach to receivers and could never get over the hump because their guys outside couldn't make plays when needed.  (See Marty era Browns and Chiefs; see also Mora era Saints).

Improvement of the Jaguars receivers from 1-5 and years away from Vic does not mitigate his folly on this issue.  He was wrong then and he's wrong now.

I don't have a problem taking a WR in the First, or even taking a Calvin Johnson / Julio Jones / Randy Moss level of player high in the draft. Yes, a great player will always have a spot on my roster. I guess what I am getting at is that a team can be successful without a superduperstar at every position. It will take massive contributions at all levels of the team, but it can be done. New England is the poster child for it and there are scores of teams that have success with "only" good players at WR.

The caution that I have is I hate the mindset of "well, if we just get this one guy then our problems are solved". I have that caution because those guys are damn hard to find. I would rather a team spend its resources on making the most out of the talent that they have available rather than, in an extreme move, pine away for guys that may or may not come around.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

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Well... I dunno if I'm all-in on the idea but I always tended to agree, especially when it comes to breaking the bank for one.

If you have a good QB that can get the ball there... all they have to do is catch it.
The only caveat is when you have those rare specimens that give you size, speed, catch radius, all in one.
Outside of that... don't use first rounders on em... And don't pay em 20 mil a year lol

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Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

Even 75% of Jones is more than half the cost of him. I mean the guy had 1400+ yards last year, 75% would still be 1k+ and a reciever who does that consistently will cost money - just look at the Allens for instance.

We are even paying big bucks for Moncrief at this point. Julio is only 14 million a year. We are paying 9.6 million for Moncrief. Even if Julio got a monster raise to 20 million a year (which he won't), Moncrief is the half price version and he only averages just over 588 yards a year the last 2 years when he played all 16 games.

That kind of production is indeed a dime a dozen. I think a better idea would be to try and find a top of the league guy like Jones, or just keep drafting WR. The whole lot are overpriced till you get to the very best (AJ Green, Jones etc).

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Yes, it's improvement, but it's Blaine Gabbert 2012 level improvement. - Pirkster

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http://youtu.be/XQRFkn0Ly3A Media on the Brain Link!
 

Peyton must store oxygen in that forehead of his. No way I'd still be alive after all that choking.

 

Yes, the rare specimen is worth reaching for you and I agree on that. And I'm betting that you and I agree that they are also exactly that; "rare". Julio Jones is a man amongst boys when it comes to the WR position but there are guys that can crank out 800 yard seasons available in every draft. So was Jones worth what it took to go get him? Mmmm, Maybe. but you can make the argument that you could have gotten an 'A' WR at half the cost of that 'A+' WR.

I think I'm finally realizing that what Vic was saying was that you could get "a guy" to do 75% of what Jones can do at about 50% of the cost. So isn't it smarter to do that?

In My Humble Opinion,

I think the overall stats (as quoted above) don't really represent what A++ receivers can do. I think that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzpatrick, Andre Johnson, et al are the type of WRs when the called play goes bad the QB can "huck" it to, realizing it will be received or batted down.

Absolutely those players can bail out a Quarterback, an Offensive drive and sometimes even a game. But look at the names that you listed. Megatron was drafted in '07, Fitzgerald in '04 and Johnson in '03. Those guys just don't come around that often. And of that lot, only one of them even played in a Super Bowl. 

I'm not saying that I will turn my nose up at a high quality WR. But I am saying that when you ignore what "just good" players can do for you, you do so at your own peril.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Pre-season games rarely teach us much other than possibly the 3rd game. That being said, after attending last night's game these were my main impressions:

1. Bortles looked confident and should continue to improve this season.
2. There may not be a true number 1 receiver, but the quality depth at this position is nice to see. Lee, Moncrief, Westbrook and Cole (did not play) are all talented and will be fighting to get as many reps as possible. This
competition should bring out the best in each player. I didn't include Chark, but I believe he will eventually be a special player. He has a great attitude, seems humble and goes all-out as evidenced by his special teams
tackle last evening.
3. Lambo was a great find; he is just about automatic.
4. Corey Grant will play a much bigger role this season. He is capable of making a big play whenever the ball gets in his hands.
5. When the only real negative said about a team is that their 3rd stringers played poorly, that bodes very well for the team's prospects this season!

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1.  First team looked good
2.  Second team looked good
3.  Third team not so much.
4.  Stadium announcer still sucks!

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Original Season Ticket Holder - Retired  1995 - 2020


At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

In My Humble Opinion,

I think the overall stats (as quoted above) don't really represent what A++ receivers can do. I think that Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzpatrick, Andre Johnson, et al are the type of WRs when the called play goes bad the QB can "huck" it to, realizing it will be received or batted down.

Absolutely those players can bail out a Quarterback, an Offensive drive and sometimes even a game. But look at the names that you listed. Megatron was drafted in '07, Fitzgerald in '04 and Johnson in '03. Those guys just don't come around that often. And of that lot, only one of them even played in a Super Bowl. 

I'm not saying that I will turn my nose up at a high quality WR. But I am saying that when you ignore what "just good" players can do for you, you do so at your own peril.

(emphasis added)

As to your closing point emphasized in bold above, you DO realize that is a far cry from this...

So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

don't you?

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

The game last night left me with one main thought, which is that the Jaguars give up a lot of size on their starting defense due to having Telvin and Ngakoue in the lineup. It's probably why defending the run had been the team's Achilles heel and the titans have managed so well against us. They can't pass will anyway and their main advantages are a big back, big line, and a running QB.

I'm thinking the team might plan to get a bigger lineup on first downs and bring Ngakoue in on sub packages.

Correct me if i"m wrong, but I thought they used a modified rotation for that last titans game. I want to say Ankou was in the rotation more often than normal.
I think you would be right on the size issue. This defense is more built for the pass with Ngakoue and the lighter faster linebackers. The coaching staff is going to have to figure out a better rotation to keep the linebackers clean against titans

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Absolutely those players can bail out a Quarterback, an Offensive drive and sometimes even a game. But look at the names that you listed. Megatron was drafted in '07, Fitzgerald in '04 and Johnson in '03. Those guys just don't come around that often. And of that lot, only one of them even played in a Super Bowl. 

I'm not saying that I will turn my nose up at a high quality WR. But I am saying that when you ignore what "just good" players can do for you, you do so at your own peril.

(emphasis added)

As to your closing point emphasized in bold above, you DO realize that is a far cry from this...

So here's a thought I had while reviewing highlights only of the game. Feel free to boo as you see fit:

"Maybe WRs really are a dime a dozen position...

don't you?

Yes and no. Granted, my comment was made with my tongue firmly in my cheek and was not meant to be taken literally. However, I understand why / how it could be taken that way. 

That comment was meant to show enlightenment towards the meaning of the phrase rather than the phrase being true. And I appreciate you continuing this conversation line so I could make my point more clear.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

My first impression of this game was "damn, those uniforms look good." I am happy we got back to our roots of all black helmet and teal jersey. Unfortunately I cannot(or will not) buy one because I am truly cursed when it comes to jag jerseys. Everyone I have ever owned has seen the player turn to complete crap within one year of purchase so I cannot do that to my boys.

I thought the first team offense looked crisp and on point. Leonard looked great even when he was hit with contact in the back field. very nice to see us move and ball and actually pull our starters so early because we have a first team that isn't full of holes and people fighting for jobs.

I was not concerned with the Defense even though the saints moved the ball(with tom savage I might add). Once that bull rush of Campbell, Jackson, and Yannick are all on the field together, I we will look a lot different.

Second and third team Oline was a bit of a concern. I'm hoping we have a relatively injury free season but it doesn't look too promising if we catch the injury bug on the oline. The saints were bringing 4 guys on most of the plays and getting considerable pressure most of the night when going against our 2's and 3's. I know people have been hard on Lee(some is warranted) but good lord he could barely get thru 2 reads before the pocket collapsed. I doubt it will happen but I would like to see what he can do behind a competent line. We threw that poor kid to the wolves last night and then blasted his [BLEEP] on social media from what I was reading.


Corey Grant was someone who stood out to me with the few passes he caught. What he lacks in the run game he makes up for with his ability to catch passes out of the back field and turn up field. I read someone in the thread compare him to Sproles which I think Is a solid comparison.

Chark looked solid as well. Seeing him play, and have some success, as a gunner on ST was great to see as well.

Unfortunately I think last night was disastrous for my fellow FSU boy Greene. He needed to show he got over the muff of punts bug but managed to muff on what I think was his only attempt. He may be able to sell his body and make a career going over the middle but I think not being able to play ST really hurts his chances of making the final 53.

Watching Doug doing his best not to throw red flags and be over-the-top competitive was another fun portion of the game LOL. Gotta Love the guy, he is exactly what this team needs.

Overall I think it was a solid outing. Glad the dead zone season is over, Lets get back to some football boys.

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