After week 5 in 2017 we were 3-2 had lost to the Tacks and we went on the very next week to be 3-3.

Those opening six games were the foundations of a run to the AFC Championship game.

I don't see the Cowgirls beating us next week despite yesterdays woes, so in that case we'll be better off than a year ago. 

Calm yourselves down.

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Also, I have a feeling I'll be posting this around a few threads for perspective:

Blake Bortles last 16 games before this KC game:
22 TDs 11 INTs 3978 yds QB Rating 88.9 61.3% Completion rate 440 Rush yds

Kirk Cousins 2017:
27 TDs 13 INTs 4093 yds QB Rating 93.9 64.3 % Completion rate 49 Rush yds

And please no "garbage time stats" excuses this time.

I didn't have to look up any playoff stats for Kirk Cousins either unlike Blake who finished with 594 yds 3 TDs 0 INTs 58% Completion rate 91.0 QB Rating and 121 rushing yds

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Also, I have a feeling I'll be posting this around a few threads for perspective:

Blake Bortles last 16 games before this KC game:
22 TDs 11 INTs 3978 yds QB Rating 88.9 61.3% Completion rate 440 Rush yds

Kirk Cousins 2017:
27 TDs 13 INTs 4093 yds QB Rating 93.9 64.3 % Completion rate 49 Rush yds

And please no "garbage time stats" excuses this time.

I didn't have to look up any playoff stats for Kirk Cousins either unlike Blake who finished with 594 yds 3 TDs 0 INTs 58% Completion rate 91.0 QB Rating and 121 rushing yds

I prefer to live in the here and now so I’m going to go with a stats comparison for THIS season:

Cousins: Comp: 161 Att: 226 Pct: 71.2 Att/Gm: 45.2 Yards: 1688 Avg: 7.5 Yds/G: 337.6 TD: 11 Ints: 2 Rating: 105.1

Bortles: Comp: 130 Att: 211 Pct: 61.6 Att/Gm: 42.2 Yards: 1525 Avg: 7.2 Yds/G: 305 TD: 8 Ints: 7 Rating: 82.4

Spin it any way you want to but THIS season Cousins is clearly playing better and it ain’t even close.

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Jaguars Fundamentalist

Yea what do you think is more statistically valid, a 5 game sample or a 16 game sample? Would you say it’s fair to say Cousins has incredibly better weapons at every offensive position?

Also I think it’s inportabt to note I bet 95/100 people on here know Cousins is better, it’s just that the difference between the two isn’t nearly as significant as most would imagine

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I had a nightmare with my internet for yesterday's game so waited to watch before I commented.

Going into KC at the moment is probably the toughest game in football and the O didn't play well and Blake's turnovers killed us, especially the 10 point swing to end the half, yet we still had a shot.

The second half encouraged me, this team could easily have given up and started to lose their head but they kept fighting, it's week 5, you don't win anything this early, yes it would be great to go 15-1 but we have a lot of season left. The main goal is just getting back in the playoffs, whatever the seed, whatever the record, and this team has a confidence that it can win tough games in January, they have already. I don't think it's a case of being too lazy, just looking at the big picture, players wanting to still have something to give come playoff time.

We also have to stem the injuries, the O isn't good enough to keep losing pieces and still execute. If we are going to be a run focused team then we have to have depth at that spot, it's all on Yeldon now. O line is looking a worry too, down to 3rd choice LT and getting beat a lot, TC may need to look at a move or two to help us out but we are back to having no real run game or big threat like a Fournette that the D has to account for so it ends up all on Blake.

And we've all seen before how that goes.

A win in Jerry World and all will be good.

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Yea what do you think is more statistically valid, a 5 game sample or a 16 game sample? Would you say it’s fair to say Cousins has incredibly better weapons at every offensive position?

I don’t care about games that were played last year because Cousins wasn’t on the same team that he’s on now. He’s also missing his starting running back and their WRs are comparable to what Blake has. Their best receiver is an undrafted FA. Ever stop to think that if the QB play was better here that our receivers would be putting up better numbers?

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Jaguars Fundamentalist

Yea what do you think is more statistically valid, a 5 game sample or a 16 game sample? Would you say it’s fair to say Cousins has incredibly better weapons at every offensive position?

I don’t care about games that were played last year because Cousins wasn’t on the same team that he’s on now. He’s also missing his starting running back and their WRs are comparable to what Blake has. Their best receiver is an undrafted FA. Ever stop to think that if the QB play was better here that our receivers would be putting up better numbers?

2600 posts and still dumb enough to think Thielen and Diggs are equitable to Cole and Moncrief. Or Rudolph to ASJ

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Yea what do you think is more statistically valid, a 5 game sample or a 16 game sample? Would you say it’s fair to say Cousins has incredibly better weapons at every offensive position?

I don’t care about games that were played last year because Cousins wasn’t on the same team that he’s on now. He’s also missing his starting running back and their WRs are comparable to what Blake has. Their best receiver is an undrafted FA. Ever stop to think that if the QB play was better here that our receivers would be putting up better numbers?

What does this have to do with anything? Thielan was putting up those numbers before with Keenum and Keenum sucks.

I was banging the table with Diggs when he came out (partially because he's a Terp and I know how underutilized he was at MD).

Thielan and Diggs might be the best WR combo in the league but the Vikings line sucks and they haven't had Cook for a while either.

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I don’t care about games that were played last year because Cousins wasn’t on the same team that he’s on now. He’s also missing his starting running back and their WRs are comparable to what Blake has. Their best receiver is an undrafted FA. Ever stop to think that if the QB play was better here that our receivers would be putting up better numbers?

2600 posts and still dumb enough to think Thielen and Diggs are equitable to Cole and Moncrief. Or Rudolph to ASJ

Can’t win an argument so you go to name calling. Weak. Cousins came into a new team with a different offensive scheme and is putting up MVP numbers. Talent is talent. Bortles has the same OC the same head coach and is still the same inconsistent QB he’s been since he’s been the starter. Again the receivers are only as good as the guy delivering the ball to them. It goes hand in hand. How come other QBs can lift the players around them, but Blake can never seem to?

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Jaguars Fundamentalist

2600 posts and still dumb enough to think Thielen and Diggs are equitable to Cole and Moncrief. Or Rudolph to ASJ

Can’t win an argument so you go to name calling. Weak. Cousins came into a new team with a different offensive scheme and is putting up MVP numbers. Talent is talent. Bortles has the same OC the same head coach and is still the same inconsistent QB he’s been since he’s been the starter. Again the receivers are only as good as the guy delivering the ball to them. It goes hand in hand. How come other QBs can lift the players around them, but Blake can never seem to?

Can’t win an argument with brain dead people

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There are two teams in the entire AFC with more wins than the Jaguars.

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Yea what do you think is more statistically valid, a 5 game sample or a 16 game sample? Would you say it’s fair to say Cousins has incredibly better weapons at every offensive position?

I don’t care about games that were played last year because Cousins wasn’t on the same team that he’s on now. He’s also missing his starting running back and their WRs are comparable to what Blake has. Their best receiver is an undrafted FA. Ever stop to think that if the QB play was better here that our receivers would be putting up better numbers?

Wow. To try and say the Vikings recievers are comparable to the Jaguars is the most ludicrous take I've read on this board in a while. And krayz posts daily.

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2600 posts and still dumb enough to think Thielen and Diggs are equitable to Cole and Moncrief. Or Rudolph to ASJ

Can’t win an argument so you go to name calling. Weak. Cousins came into a new team with a different offensive scheme and is putting up MVP numbers. Talent is talent. Bortles has the same OC the same head coach and is still the same inconsistent QB he’s been since he’s been the starter. Again the receivers are only as good as the guy delivering the ball to them. It goes hand in hand. How come other QBs can lift the players around them, but Blake can never seem to?

Or the QB is only as good as the receivers catching the ball. Exp Keenam was a good WB with Minn. Receivers, With Denver not so much. easy to flip stats to say what you want. All that should matter is W and L and RBB5 has 3 wins and Cousins has 2.

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Also, I have a feeling I'll be posting this around a few threads for perspective:

Blake Bortles last 16 games before this KC game:
22 TDs 11 INTs 3978 yds QB Rating 88.9 61.3% Completion rate 440 Rush yds

Kirk Cousins 2017:
27 TDs 13 INTs 4093 yds QB Rating 93.9 64.3 % Completion rate 49 Rush yds

And please no "garbage time stats" excuses this time.

I didn't have to look up any playoff stats for Kirk Cousins either unlike Blake who finished with 594 yds 3 TDs 0 INTs 58% Completion rate 91.0 QB Rating and 121 rushing yds

I prefer to live in the here and now so I’m going to go with a stats comparison for THIS season:

Cousins: Comp: 161 Att: 226 Pct: 71.2 Att/Gm: 45.2 Yards: 1688 Avg: 7.5 Yds/G: 337.6 TD: 11 Ints: 2 Rating: 105.1

Bortles: Comp: 130 Att: 211 Pct: 61.6 Att/Gm: 42.2 Yards: 1525 Avg: 7.2 Yds/G: 305 TD: 8 Ints: 7 Rating: 82.4

Spin it any way you want to but THIS season Cousins is clearly playing better and it ain’t even close.

OK

let's spin it again
one QB is 3-2 and the other is 2-2-1
One QB is tied for first in their division and the other is 3rd.
Also one QB is getting paid a lot more money. A LOT.

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There are two teams in the entire AFC with more wins than the Jaguars.

and one of them just beat them

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Speaking of perspective, I just wanted to leave a little something here for the 5 or 6 folks I've seen questioning Yannick Ngakoue's contribution this season:

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Box score scouts are the only people questioning Yannick's contributions this season.

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I still can't believe people think Kirk and Blake are on the same tier.

Just watch the Vikings last two games and the QBs talents are night and day.

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I still can't believe people think Kirk and Blake are on the same tier.

Just watch the Vikings last two games and the QBs talents are night and day.

Oh, they’re not. That’s why they’re not paid the same. Are they on markedly different tiers? Ehhhhhh... Reference my older post with their stats. That’s not even including W/L or playoff appearances or records against greater than .500 teams (of which Kirk’s is abysmal)

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Cousins was probably just as bad against Buffalo as Bortles was against KC.

I'd rather get handled by KC in Arrowhead than by Buffalo at home...

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Cousins was probably just as bad against Buffalo as Bortles was against KC.

I'd rather get handled by KC in Arrowhead than by Buffalo at home...

Couldn’t agree more.

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