Dallas is pretty bad.. we just have to get back to our identity and start fast. The defense shouldn't get torched like it did in KC.

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No pain, no gain.

Also, krayz, I'm not usually on your side for much of anything. You're way too doom and gloom for me. But people jumping down your throat in this thread was a little ridiculous. I appreciate you trying to pass forward any information you got along to us. It was no harm to anyone so idk why people got their panties in a wad over it.

Yes, I am on the Krayz bandwagon too. Have been for a while.

Thx for not hating me for speaking my mind

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Dallas is pretty bad.. we just have to get back to our identity and start fast. The defense shouldn't get torched like it did in KC.

They have a mobilr qb.. a good solid defense with great pass rushers and they get one of their best ones back this week.. we have a bad oline

We r missing multiple rbs, we r gona struggle to score... they have a mobile qb who will be at home. We have a qb eho would rather throw it out of bounds than use his best weapon in his legs

This game is going to be low scoring and a 1 postession game in the 4th unless 1 team has multiple turnovers

This gane is NOT a gimme not even close

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Dallas is pretty bad.. we just have to get back to our identity and start fast. The defense shouldn't get torched like it did in KC.

They have a mobilr qb.. a good solid defense with great pass rushers and they get one of their best ones back this week.. we have a bad oline

We r missing multiple rbs, we r gona struggle to score... they have a mobile qb who will be at home. We have a qb who would rather throw it out of bounds than use his best weapon in his legs

This game is going to be low scoring and a 1 posession game in the 4th unless 1 team has multiple turnovers

This game is NOT a gimme not even close

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Dallas is pretty bad.. we just have to get back to our identity and start fast. The defense shouldn't get torched like it did in KC.

This team has no business losing to the Cowboys this weekend, especially that Offense.

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Dallas is pretty bad.. we just have to get back to our identity and start fast. The defense shouldn't get torched like it did in KC.

This team has no business losing to the Cowboys this weekend, especially that Offense.

Were our OL and RBs not in complete shambles due to injury, I'd be in complete agreement.

But I don't know if we can block their front four, which is a pretty good group.

That sort of thing can bog an offense down and lead to turnovers, which can put Dallas in good position.

If we can get those guys blocked and hold on to the ball, we should beat them, even if Ramsey doesn't play.

But getting those guys blocked seems a dubious proposition at this point.

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This team has no business losing to the Cowboys this weekend, especially that Offense.

Were our OL and RBs not in complete shambles due to injury, I'd be in complete agreement.

But I don't know if we can block their front four, which is a pretty good group.

That sort of thing can bog an offense down and lead to turnovers, which can put Dallas in good position.

If we can get those guys blocked and hold on to the ball, we should beat them, even if Ramsey doesn't play.

But getting those guys blocked seems a dubious proposition at this point.

Yeldon can handle the load just fine.

The one thing we can't do is get behind on points and get forced to throw the football. We have to run the football, which will make it easier for our beat up OL. We cannot be throwing the football 35+ times.

Limiting the amount of throws will limit the impact of their front four.

That Cowboys Offense has been very bad. If Bortles doesn't go full derp mode again and give them the football over and over, I don't see how their Offense scores more than 10 points on our Defense. Their leading receiver doesn't even have 200 receiving yards on the season yet. Pretty sure they're the only team in the league that hasn't had a receiver get 100 yards in a game yet.

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Hackett will have to turn up the run blocking help from the FB and TE spots to help counter the O-Line injuries but I think this team can beat Dallas with such a run game leaning on Yeldon, a good number of dink and dunk passes, and a few intermediate throws intended for mismatches against the Dallas DBs not named Jones.

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Were our OL and RBs not in complete shambles due to injury, I'd be in complete agreement.

But I don't know if we can block their front four, which is a pretty good group.

That sort of thing can bog an offense down and lead to turnovers, which can put Dallas in good position.

If we can get those guys blocked and hold on to the ball, we should beat them, even if Ramsey doesn't play.

But getting those guys blocked seems a dubious proposition at this point.

Yeldon can handle the load just fine.

The one thing we can't do is get behind on points and get forced to throw the football. We have to run the football, which will make it easier for our beat up OL. We cannot be throwing the football 35+ times.

Limiting the amount of throws will limit the impact of their front four.

That Cowboys Offense has been very bad. If Bortles doesn't go full derp mode again and give them the football over and over, I don't see how their Offense scores more than 10 points on our Defense. Their leading receiver doesn't even have 200 receiving yards on the season yet. Pretty sure they're the only team in the league that hasn't had a receiver get 100 yards in a game yet.

But that's the thing.  KC's defense isn't that good, and our OL got Bortles pressured to the point he went "full derp mode" against a not so good defense.

That sort of thing can stop us from gaining momentum, help Dallas create momentum, and stop us from getting it back or taking advantage of it assuming the D makes a play.

We could still win this game...but the state of the OL makes it much harder than it otherwise would be.

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The Cowboys defense is no push over. Very athletic and physical, two big corners who can run , two LBs who run 4.5s , secondary can play inside out and mix all over. They will be a challenge.

Win the turnover battle and we win the game

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Yeldon can handle the load just fine.

The one thing we can't do is get behind on points and get forced to throw the football. We have to run the football, which will make it easier for our beat up OL. We cannot be throwing the football 35+ times.

Limiting the amount of throws will limit the impact of their front four.

That Cowboys Offense has been very bad. If Bortles doesn't go full derp mode again and give them the football over and over, I don't see how their Offense scores more than 10 points on our Defense. Their leading receiver doesn't even have 200 receiving yards on the season yet. Pretty sure they're the only team in the league that hasn't had a receiver get 100 yards in a game yet.

But that's the thing.  KC's defense isn't that good, and our OL got Bortles pressured to the point he went "full derp mode" against a not so good defense.

That sort of thing can stop us from gaining momentum, help Dallas create momentum, and stop us from getting it back or taking advantage of it assuming the D makes a play.

We could still win this game...but the state of the OL makes it much harder than it otherwise would be.

Chiefs' Defense isn't as bad as the numbers say. The numbers are skewed because their Offense has been putting up so many points, their Defense lets Opp Offenses rack up yards on them that look bad on paper, but don't have much impact on the out come of the actual game.

Us getting away from the run too early was the main cause of our issues vs the Chiefs. They went to the pass way too soon, when the Chiefs were showing that they couldn't really stop our running game. They have to mix up the run and pass to keep them honest obviously, but they really have to stop trying to get cute and out thinking themselves in obvious situations.

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But that's the thing.  KC's defense isn't that good, and our OL got Bortles pressured to the point he went "full derp mode" against a not so good defense.

That sort of thing can stop us from gaining momentum, help Dallas create momentum, and stop us from getting it back or taking advantage of it assuming the D makes a play.

We could still win this game...but the state of the OL makes it much harder than it otherwise would be.

Chiefs' Defense isn't as bad as the numbers say. The numbers are skewed because their Offense has been putting up so many points, their Defense lets Opp Offenses rack up yards on them that look bad on paper, but don't have much impact on the out come of the actual game.

Us getting away from the run too early was the main cause of our issues vs the Chiefs. They went to the pass way too soon, when the Chiefs were showing that they couldn't really stop our running game. They have to mix up the run and pass to keep them honest obviously, but they really have to stop trying to get cute and out thinking themselves in obvious situations.

I agree that we got away from the run too soon.

But I think that Fournette being out had a lot to do with that.

For whatever reason, the team seems to pass more with Yeldon in the lineup and doesn't seem content to grind it out on the ground.

While running the ball more may well be the smart play, I wonder how willing Hackett and company would be willing to employ such a strategy (not saying they are less than smart).

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The Cowboys defense is no push over. Very athletic and physical, two big corners who can run , two LBs who run 4.5s , secondary can play inside out and mix all over. They will be a challenge.  

Win the turnover battle and we win the game

This is my main concern about this game.

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That reason is because yeldon is not a true bell cow runner. He goes down on girst contact and when u run a power run game that usually results in a lot of no gains and 1 or 2 yard gains

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The oline looked so bad against KC because we rarely ran it. The defense had little fear of the run. lacked balance

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That reason is because yeldon is not a true bell cow runner. He goes down on girst contact and when u run a power run game that usually results in a lot of no gains and 1 or 2 yard gains

You couldn't be more wrong.

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... He goes down on girst contact...

Spelling aside, that's just not true.

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The Cowboys defense is no push over. Very athletic and physical, two big corners who can run , two LBs who run 4.5s , secondary can play inside out and mix all over. They will be a challenge.  

Win the turnover battle and we win the game

S Lee is out for Dallas which is some relief for Jags.

I think Jags should play most of the game in 12 or 21 formation's to have extra blockers in there who can chip or double team guys

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... He goes down on girst contact...

Spelling aside, that's just not true.

ya most my posting is on my 5 year old phone and unless I type suuuuper slow it presses letters next to the one I'm actually pressing

and we will agree to disagree, Yeldon has been good for us, mostly as a pass catcher

but the dude is not a good pounder, nothing you or anyone says will change my mind on that... I've watched him plenty.. Fournette will pound it into a pile and drive forward a yard or 2 or 3.. Yeldon, once he hits a pile or tackler, more times than not, is going right down

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Spelling aside, that's just not true.

ya most my posting is on my 5 year old phone and unless I type suuuuper slow it presses letters next to the one I'm actually pressing

and we will agree to disagree, Yeldon has been good for us, mostly as a pass catcher

but the dude is not a good pounder, nothing you or anyone says will change my mind on that... I've watched him plenty.. Fournette will pound it into a pile and drive forward a yard or 2 or 3.. Yeldon, once he hits a pile or tackler, more times than not, is going right down

The fact that you think Yeldon is suppose to be a "pounder" to begin with, just shows how clueless you really are..

And when you keep saying Yeldon goes down on first contact, that just continues to show how clueless you are..

Fournette being a "pounder", while he's running straight into the back of the OL, only to gain 2 yards because of his size/strength at pushing a pile, is a god awful argument to try and make for him btw. Yea we all know he can be a strong runner, but this isn't the 60's, 70's, or even the 80's NFL anymore. Being a "pounder" doesn't mean jack [BLEEP] in today's NFL and Fournette lacks the vision (among other things) to be a big time RB in the league.

Fournette needs big holes to do damage, because he isn't creating much of anything on his own. Which is what good RBs do.. They can create on their own if something goes wrong. Fournette will never be able to create anything on his own. Hell, Fournette can't even get on the field because he's so injury prone.

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The Cowboys defense is no push over. Very athletic and physical, two big corners who can run , two LBs who run 4.5s , secondary can play inside out and mix all over. They will be a challenge.  

Win the turnover battle and we win the game

S Lee is out for Dallas which is some relief for Jags.

I think Jags should play most of the game in 12 or 21 formation's to have extra blockers in there who can chip or double team guys

Smith and LVB are the fast LBs who I'm referring to. Both playing very well atm.

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Chiefs' Defense isn't as bad as the numbers say. The numbers are skewed because their Offense has been putting up so many points, their Defense lets Opp Offenses rack up yards on them that look bad on paper, but don't have much impact on the out come of the actual game.

Us getting away from the run too early was the main cause of our issues vs the Chiefs. They went to the pass way too soon, when the Chiefs were showing that they couldn't really stop our running game. They have to mix up the run and pass to keep them honest obviously, but they really have to stop trying to get cute and out thinking themselves in obvious situations.

I agree that we got away from the run too soon.

But I think that Fournette being out had a lot to do with that.

For whatever reason, the team seems to pass more with Yeldon in the lineup and doesn't seem content to grind it out on the ground.

While running the ball more may well be the smart play, I wonder how willing Hackett and company would be willing to employ such a strategy (not saying they are less than smart).

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The Cowboys defense is no push over. Very athletic and physical, two big corners who can run , two LBs who run 4.5s , secondary can play inside out and mix all over. They will be a challenge.  

Win the turnover battle and we win the game

This is my main concern about this game.

Turnovers or the overall speed and physicality of the defense? 

Marrone is dead right, you simply cannot be a good team and lose the turnover battle so often , and got certainly can't be that tough control the clock squad he wants either.

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ya most my posting is on my 5 year old phone and unless I type suuuuper slow it presses letters next to the one I'm actually pressing

and we will agree to disagree, Yeldon has been good for us, mostly as a pass catcher

but the dude is not a good pounder, nothing you or anyone says will change my mind on that... I've watched him plenty.. Fournette will pound it into a pile and drive forward a yard or 2 or 3.. Yeldon, once he hits a pile or tackler, more times than not, is going right down

The fact that you think Yeldon is suppose to be a "pounder" to begin with, just shows how clueless you really are..

And when you keep saying Yeldon goes down on first contact, that just continues to show how clueless you are..

Fournette being a "pounder", while he's running straight into the back of the OL, only to gain 2 yards because of his size/strength at pushing a pile, is a god awful argument to try and make for him btw. Yea we all know he can be a strong runner, but this isn't the 60's, 70's, or even the 80's NFL anymore. Being a "pounder" doesn't mean jack [BLEEP] in today's NFL and Fournette lacks the vision (among other things) to be a big time RB in the league.

Fournette needs big holes to do damage, because he isn't creating much of anything on his own. Which is what good RBs do.. They can create on their own if something goes wrong. Fournette will never be able to create anything on his own. Hell, Fournette can't even get on the field because he's so injury prone.

Yo, struggle with reading comprehension much bro???? Holy hell

When did i ever say yeldon is supposed to be a pounder??? When? Oh never? Oh ok then

Yelson is not a pounder, he is not a grinder, he is not a 20 carry in a game guy. Everyone is all high on yeldon (mod edit) this year, but hes been a massive disappointment as a 2nd round pick until now

Hes thriving as a pass catcher and limited run attemp back. I wasf a massive fan of the yeldon pick, and a massive fan of the fournette pick

Unlike most on here Ill admit when Im wrong, and i was wrong about both RBs . Neither is the future stud RB of this teams future, both have massive issues

Fournette when healthy is a better rb for this team than yeldon for what we want to do, thats a fact. But fournette cant stay on the field

People wana know why yeldon doesnt get more carries, theres a reason for it, he cant hold up to those number of atrempts either, and yeldon does not break many tackles

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That reason is because yeldon is not a true bell cow runner. He goes down on girst contact and when u run a power run game that usually results in a lot of no gains and 1 or 2 yard gains

2018 YPC Fornette 3.6, Yeldon 4.4. Just sayin'.

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