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Is Jacksonville Where First Round Picks Go To Die?

#1

In the early years the Jags were off to a good start with their first rounders with guys like Tony Boselli, Kevin Hardy, Fred Taylor, Donovan Darius. It got a little hit-and-miss after that. From 2008 on though things really hit the skids. It is not just that the picks were bad, they are almost all high picks.

2008      8            Derrick Harvey  Defensive end   Florida  [
2009      8            Eugene Monroe              Offensive tackle              Virginia
2010      10          Tyson Alualu     Defensive tackle              California          
2011      10          Blaine Gabbert  Quarterback      Missouri            
2012      5            Justin Blackmon              Wide receiver    Oklahoma State             
2013      2            Luke Joeckel      Offensive tackle              Texas A&M
2014      3            Blake Bortles     Quarterback      UCF      
2015      3            Dante Fowler Jr.              Defensive end   Florida 
2016      5            Jalen Ramsey † Cornerback        Florida State     
2017      4            Leonard Fournette         Running Back    LSU       
2018      29          Taven Bryan      Defensive tackle              Florida 



Ramsey was pretty good but seems to be falling off the rails a bit. Fournette had a decent rookie season but injuries have slowed him down of late (who saw that coming  Cool  ) and 3.8 YPC is nothing special. Bryan is still new.

Rest of those guys are pretty bad. 

If I was picked first round by the Jags I would 100% pull an Eli Manning.
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#2

UCF qb @ 3 overall... yikes. only a florida team
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#3
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 04:33 PM by B2hibry.)

What was the thought process behind this post? Doesn't appear too thought out. Who on this list are you willing to brag about? I see Lewan as the lone one. Looks pretty Jaguar-isk.

2008 Chris Johnson
2009 Kenny Britt
2010 Derrick Morgan
2011 Jake Locker
2012 Kendall Wright
2013 Chance Warmack
2014 Taylor Lewan
2015 Marcus Mariota
2016 Jack Conklin
2017 Corey Davis
2017 Adoree' Jackson
2018 Rashaan Evans
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#4

I guess we can add first rd picks to the list of things that go to Jacksonville to die. We’ll put it right behind class, integrity, hope, and self-respect.
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#5

(12-06-2018, 04:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: What was the thought process behind this post? Doesn't appear too thought out. Who on this list are you willing to brag about? I see Lewan as the lone one. Looks pretty Jaguar-isk.

2008 Chris Johnson --- amazing
2009 Kenny Britt  --- had a long career, pretty good
2010 Derrick Morgan - still plays for the team, good pick
2011 Jake Locker --- trash
2012 Kendall Wright - was okay in tennessee, sucked after he left
2013 Chance Warmack --- trash
2014 Taylor Lewan - pro bowl
2015 Marcus Mariota --- stud
2016 Jack Conklin --- all pro
2017 Corey Davis  --- stud
2017 Adoree' Jackson --- stud
2018 Rashaan Evans --- stud

see above, 3 maybe 4 bad ones(if you include britt) compared to jags which are... all bad until you hit 2015... and the jury is still out on them. LF lookin like a bust and taven who?
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(12-06-2018, 04:41 PM)VondyP Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 04:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: What was the thought process behind this post? Doesn't appear too thought out. Who on this list are you willing to brag about? I see Lewan as the lone one. Looks pretty Jaguar-isk.

2008 Chris Johnson --- amazing
2009 Kenny Britt  --- had a long career, pretty good
2010 Derrick Morgan - still plays for the team, good pick
2011 Jake Locker --- trash
2012 Kendall Wright - was okay in tennessee, sucked after he left
2013 Chance Warmack --- trash
2014 Taylor Lewan - pro bowl
2015 Marcus Mariota --- stud
2016 Jack Conklin --- all pro
2017 Corey Davis  --- stud
2017 Adoree' Jackson --- stud
2018 Rashaan Evans --- stud

see above, 3 maybe 4 bad ones(if you include britt) compared to jags which are... all bad until you hit 2015... and the jury is still out on them. LF lookin like a bust and taven who?
I get the team bias, but come on. You lost me at Mariota-stud. On LF, you may want to take a look at his stats. Do you think Henry is a bust? And Bryan is a rookie on a stacked defense. Come on man!
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#7

Chris Johnson was trash after his 2nd season in the league though he had one legendary season.
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#8
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 05:28 PM by The Hammer.)

(12-06-2018, 04:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: What was the thought process behind this post? Doesn't appear too thought out. Who on this list are you willing to brag about? I see Lewan as the lone one. Looks pretty Jaguar-isk.

2008 Chris Johnson
2009 Kenny Britt
2010 Derrick Morgan
2011 Jake Locker
2012 Kendall Wright
2013 Chance Warmack
2014 Taylor Lewan
2015 Marcus Mariota
2016 Jack Conklin
2017 Corey Davis
2017         Adoree' Jackson
2018 Rashaan Evans

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A whole lot better than the guys you had
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#9

Jaguars tried to buy a championship but the owner was so dumb he forgot the most important piece: A Quarterback... lol
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(12-06-2018, 05:25 PM)jalenramseysays Wrote: Jaguars tried to buy a championship but the owner was so dumb he forgot the most important piece: A Quarterback... lol

That and the fact buying a championship rarely works
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#11
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 05:33 PM by VondyP.)

(12-06-2018, 05:07 PM)myrick31 Wrote: Chris Johnson was trash after his 2nd season in the league though he had one legendary season.

6 seasons in a row with 1k yards, every year he was in tennessee

MJD only had three 1,000 yard seasons...

CJ2k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJD
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#12

(12-06-2018, 05:30 PM)VondyP Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 05:07 PM)myrick31 Wrote: Chris Johnson was trash after his 2nd season in the league though he had one legendary season.

6 seasons in a row with 1k yards, every year he was in tennessee

MJD only had three 1,000 yard seasons...

CJ2k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJD
Fred Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ
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#13
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 06:58 PM by jaguarmvp.)

(12-06-2018, 05:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 05:30 PM)VondyP Wrote: 6 seasons in a row with 1k yards, every year he was in tennessee

MJD only had three 1,000 yard seasons...

CJ2k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJD
Fred Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ

For once I agree.  CJ2k was a flash in the pan. His career was over before you blinked your eyes.

Fred Taylor would be in the HOF with the exact same stats if he were wearing a different Jersey.

My most hated Titan was Air Mcnair. He use to kill us.
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(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 08:56 PM by HandsomeRob86.)

(12-06-2018, 04:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: What was the thought process behind this post? Doesn't appear too thought out. Who on this list are you willing to brag about? I see Lewan as the lone one. Looks pretty Jaguar-isk.

2008 Chris Johnson
2009 Kenny Britt
2010 Derrick Morgan
2011 Jake Locker
2012 Kendall Wright
2013 Chance Warmack
2014 Taylor Lewan - Is good
2015 Marcus Mariota
2016 Jack Conklin
2017 Corey Davis
2017         Adoree' Jackson
2018 Rashaan Evans

There is more than just Lewan on that list, Johnson was good, Britt has had good years, as has Morgan. Heck, even Locker looked good for a bit. Those are mostly decent players. The Tacks draft looks much better during the Gene Smiff years and even the early Caldwell. I will take our more recent drafts tho.


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(12-06-2018, 05:35 PM)INYC4jags Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 05:30 PM)VondyP Wrote: 6 seasons in a row with 1k yards, every year he was in tennessee

MJD only had three 1,000 yard seasons...

CJ2k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJD
Fred Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ
Eddie George >>>>>>>> Fragile Fred
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(This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 08:59 PM by HandsomeRob86.)

(12-06-2018, 08:56 PM)14and3 Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 05:35 PM)INYC4jags Wrote: Fred Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ
Eddie George >>>>>>>> Fragile Fred
You are out of your dang mind. Eddie George couldn't even find the right side of 4 ypc. And even with his 'lack of injury' still has a thousand less yards on 300+ more carries than 'fragile fred.'

Not even close to the same league.


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#17

Big mistake calling Khan dumb.....he's anything but.
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(12-06-2018, 08:58 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 08:56 PM)14and3 Wrote: Eddie George >>>>>>>> Fragile Fred
You are out of your dang mind. Eddie George couldn't even find the right side of 4 ypc. And even with his 'lack of injury' still has a thousand less yards on 300+ more carries than 'fragile fred.'

Not even close to the same league.
Give me the more reliable player you can hand it off to 30 times a game without breaking down. A lot of Eddie’s carries got cut short.... by the endzone.
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(12-06-2018, 09:02 PM)14and3 Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 08:58 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: You are out of your dang mind. Eddie George couldn't even find the right side of 4 ypc. And even with his 'lack of injury' still has a thousand less yards on 300+ more carries than 'fragile fred.'

Not even close to the same league.
Give me the more reliable player you can hand it off to 30 times a game without breaking down. A lot of Eddie’s carries got cut short.... by the endzone.

Amazing how he has only 2 more rushing TDs on 300 more carries and was considered a 'power back.' Seemed like Fred could find the endzone from a lot further away.


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(12-06-2018, 09:08 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:
(12-06-2018, 09:02 PM)14and3 Wrote: Give me the more reliable player you can hand it off to 30 times a game without breaking down. A lot of Eddie’s carries got cut short.... by the endzone.

Amazing how he has only 2 more rushing TDs on 300 more carries and was considered a 'power back.' Seemed like Fred could find the endzone from a lot further away.
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