https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...alton/amp/

This mock has us trading Fournette for Foles and a pick. I’d be totally for it, and could still draft a young QB.

If I understand Foles situation, he is only under contract this year and the Eagles have an option year next year for some ridiculous amount.  So we'd be trading for a player that we could get in free agency for probably the same amount.  

I don't see how this makes sense.

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We sign Foles, we are back in the game. If we trade Foles, it’s the biggest reset

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...alton/amp/

This mock has us trading Fournette for Foles and a pick. I’d be totally for it, and could still draft a young QB.

If we were to pass on Haskins for a DT, even if we did acquire Foles, I'd riot. Haskins is the only QB in the draft that I believe has a chance to be a good NFL starter.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...alton/amp/

This mock has us trading Fournette for Foles and a pick. I’d be totally for it, and could still draft a young QB.

If I understand Foles situation, he is only under contract this year and the Eagles have an option year next year for some ridiculous amount.  So we'd be trading for a player that we could get in free agency for probably the same amount.  

I don't see how this makes sense.

It's assuming the Eagles pick up the option with intentions of trading him, rather than just letting him walk for nothing. Also, it is not a ridiculous amount. The option is a 20.6M cap hit. This would put him in the lower middle of the pack for Qbs around the league. Bortles is lined up to make more money than that in 2019.  I also think he would cost more in FA. Good amount of teams need a QB and draft isn't hot for franchise QBs... price tag could get expensive.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspor...alton/amp/

This mock has us trading Fournette for Foles and a pick. I’d be totally for it, and could still draft a young QB.

If we were to pass on Haskins for a DT, even if we did acquire Foles, I'd riot. Haskins is the only QB in the draft that I believe has a chance to be a good NFL starter.

I've been on the Haskins trade for a long time, and I too agree he is the only QB IMO that has franchise capability. My dream scenario is trading/signing Foles for this upcoming season AND drafting Haskins in the first even if it means trade up and having him sit for a year and be ready to be the guy 2020+.

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He will cost more then Bortles per year and for a stop gap thats a no from me so is Flacco, Eli, and Stafford.

Heck, I'd look hard at trading for Stafford if that was any kind of option, but it's not. There's no chance the Lions can afford to trade Stafford until at least the 2020 offseason. 

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'02

You are talking out of your [BLEEP], you don’t know the first thing about turdectomy. You can’t just pick a turd by its smell alone. Does it shine? Can you polish it? Does it spiral? Will it fall apart under pressure? What will it do when it gets flushed? Can it roll to one side better than the other? How well does it slide? After the first 3 quarters will it taper off at the end? Then you check to make sure it passes the smell test. That’s how you know which turd is the best turd.


It looks like a turd.
It smells like a turd.
It taste like a turd.
Good thing I didn't step in it.

I think you forgot passing the brown eye test.

Also...

Does the turd have the "It" factor? 

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'02

If we draft any position besides QB with the first pick, I'm going to cry. No doubt we desperately need O line help, but QB is supremely important.

To me, it depends on what we do pre-draft.

If we get a "strong" vet QB (i.e. Foles), then I'm willing to draft a position other than QB at 7.

If we get a clear bridge QB (i.e. Fitz), I want a QB in round 1.

I'll second this as Foles and Fitz are really the only QBs besides Bortles I'd consider. I'm still considering Bortles for the money, but it sounds like Fitz wouldn't be all that much more on a one-year deal. Should we go with Bortles or sign Fitz, I feel we'd have to use the #7 either to pick a guy or possibly combined with our 2nd and 3rd to move up to #3 for Haskins should he fall that far.

If, however, we actually pay up for a QB and target the only one out there who appears to be worth it... that being Foles... then I'd opt for going a different position in round one (RT or WR) unless Haskins actually does fall that far (highly doubtful)... and then use that third to trade up into the end of round one to take a guy with that fifth-year option. Now we wouldn't get our pick of the litter, but one or two of those first round guys should still be there. ...I'm talking about Grier, Lock, D. Jones or Murray.

This also plays into the free agent market. If we go Fitz while drafting Haskins, for example, then we can go get a RT and/or WR in free agency. On the other hand, if pay up for Foles and draft Grier, for example, then we're looking at getting our RT and WR with our #7 and our remaining 3rd round pick as we wouldn't have any money for prime free agents.

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'02

To me, it depends on what we do pre-draft.

If we get a "strong" vet QB (i.e. Foles), then I'm willing to draft a position other than QB at 7.

If we get a clear bridge QB (i.e. Fitz), I want a QB in round 1.

I'll second this as Foles and Fitz are really the only QBs besides Bortles I'd consider. I'm still considering Bortles for the money, but it sounds like Fitz wouldn't be all that much more on a one-year deal. Should we go with Bortles or sign Fitz, I feel we'd have to use the #7 either to pick a guy or possibly combined with our 2nd and 3rd to move up to #3 for Haskins should he fall that far.

If, however, we actually pay up for a QB and target the only one out there who appears to be worth it... that being Foles... then I'd opt for going a different position in round one (RT or WR) unless Haskins actually does fall that far (highly doubtful)... and then use that third to trade up into the end of round one to take a guy with that fifth-year option. Now we wouldn't get our pick of the litter, but one or two of those first round guys should still be there. ...I'm talking about Grier, Lock, D. Jones or Murray.

This also plays into the free agent market. If we go Fitz while drafting Haskins, for example, then we can go get a RT and/or WR in free agency. On the other hand, if pay up for Foles and draft Grier, for example, then we're looking at getting our RT and WR with our #7 and our remaining 3rd round pick as we wouldn't have any money for prime free agents.

If the choice was between Bortles and Fitzpatrick, I'd call Todd Bouman.

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My gut tells me that Foles is going to be the one brought in on a 3+ year deal (which makes sense).  That way the team doesn't have to reach for a sub-par QB in a weak draft class and can get the BAP with the #7 pick.  I would hope that it would be for either an OL or a TE (biggest positions of need besides QB) or perhaps shore up the defensive tackle or line backer position.  If that's the case I could see drafting a QB in later rounds.

Anyone that thinks that Haskins (or any other rookie) is the answer really needs to get away from college football and the video games.  Also thinking that you can sign a veteran to a "one year prove it deal" or a "bridge deal" is also living in dream land.

Any veteran FA is going to want at the minimum a 3 year deal and the chance to be THE starter.  Foles, Flacco or to a lesser extent Fitzpatrick would be the ideal choices.  A "bridge" QB is going to be someone like Gabbert.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

My gut tells me that Foles is going to be the one brought in on a 3+ year deal (which makes sense).  That way the team doesn't have to reach for a sub-par QB in a weak draft class and can get the BAP with the #7 pick.  I would hope that it would be for either an OL or a TE (biggest positions of need besides QB) or perhaps shore up the defensive tackle or line backer position.  If that's the case I could see drafting a QB in later rounds.

Anyone that thinks that Haskins (or any other rookie) is the answer really needs to get away from college football and the video games.  Also thinking that you can sign a veteran to a "one year prove it deal" or a "bridge deal" is also living in dream land.

Any veteran FA is going to want at the minimum a 3 year deal and the chance to be THE starter.  Foles, Flacco or to a lesser extent Fitzpatrick would be the ideal choices.  A "bridge" QB is going to be someone like Gabbert.

Are you ever going to actually give us some analysis on why you think Haskins will be a subpar QB or are you just going to insist he's bad? You and Pirk have a lot of opinions on him with very little if anything at all to back it up 

Also a veteran is more likely to sign a 2+1 deal with an option on the 3rd or with a 3rd year that can be easily cut. Teams aren't going to fully commit on a stop gap for 3 seasons. Thats generally how those signing work

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Foles is by far our best option. I just hope we can get him without giving up draft picks

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QB SB MVP's doesnt grow on trees. Man I hope Tom can some how pull this off

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Foles is by far our best option.   I just hope we can get him without giving up draft picks

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QB SB MVP's doesnt grow on trees.  Man I hope Tom can some how pull this off

in a hypothetical world where thats the route we go...whats the most you'd spend on him per year? 25 mill?

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Foles is by far our best option.   I just hope we can get him without giving up draft picks

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QB SB MVP's doesnt grow on trees.  Man I hope Tom can some how pull this off

in a hypothetical world where thats the route we go...whats the most you'd spend on him per year? 25 mill?

Im good with 25 a year

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Arizona could take Haskins...even with Rosen.

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Arizona could take Haskins...even with Rosen.

Kingsburry is in love with Murray not Haskins.  They will stick with Rosen though

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https://insidetheiggles.com/2019/01/28/r...ee-agency/

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in a hypothetical world where thats the route we go...whats the most you'd spend on him per year? 25 mill?

Im good with 25 a year

4 years 25 million?

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Im good with 25 a year

4 years 25 million?

Would try to do a 3 year 75 mil

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4 years 25 million?

Would try to do a 3 year 75 mil

But if he said naw 4 years 25 each or I'm gonzo , you'd bite the bullet?

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Would try to do a 3 year 75 mil

But if he said naw 4 years 25 each or I'm gonzo , you'd bite the bullet?

Depends on the guaranteed money

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