It's got to be Haskins.  Everything else is a bandaid.  Even if you trade for a vet, you still package your picks and go get Haskins.

Agree 100%.

This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

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Agree 100%.

This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

That's why they gotta move up. #4 and #5 are perfect landing spots.

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Agree 100%.

This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

I agree. It does suck. That's why I've been so adamant about being aggressive and trading up. Losing out on Haskins would mean waiting another year or longer to find a franchise QB, that wouldn't hinder our salary cap.

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This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

That's why they gotta move up. #4 and #5 are perfect landing spots.

too risky

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At this point its gotta be haskins or bust. I'd package our first, both our third and next years first to move up to 2 and to take him. Gotta go all in.

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Agree 100%.

This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

Damn, I've never felt like that any draft.  Glad Tom and Dave doesn't feel like that over any player

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At this point its gotta be haskins or bust. I'd package our first, both our third and next years first to move up to 2 and to take him. Gotta go all in.

Lol, feels like Tank for Teddy all over.  I hope Tom and Dave is smarter than this and finally stays at 7 and makes the right pick

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This whole Haskins or bust feeling sucks. Especially if he goes one pick before us. Ugh.

Damn, I've never felt like that any draft.  Glad Tom and Dave doesn't feel like that over any player

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At this point its gotta be haskins or bust. I'd package our first, both our third and next years first to move up to 2 and to take him. Gotta go all in.

Lol, feels like Tank for Teddy all over.  I hope Tom and Dave is smarter than this and finally stays at 7 and makes the right pick

Don't get me wrong, Haskins isn't the only QB I would be ok with but of all the ones available, he is the one I want the most. I think Murray will shine in the right system and I think Lock could be special if he works on his accuracy issues. I also think Jones isn't nearly as terrible as some make out to be. Heck Grier is actually my favorite QB in the draft, but man do I think Haskins has the best potential to be an early starter and the best chance to be our long term solution at QB.

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I prefer a trade up during the actual draft. Let's see if he falls to four and then go for it. Be ready to fight and get the deal done. Anything before the draft is only setting us up to be jumped by a team already knowing what we want. Though, they already know what we want.

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That's why they gotta move up. #4 and #5 are perfect landing spots.

too risky

He's by far, the only QB in the draft that I see as a franchise guy.

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I prefer a trade up during the actual draft.  Let's see if he falls to four and then go for it.  Be ready to fight and get the deal done.  Anything before the draft is only setting us up to be jumped by a team already knowing what we want.  Though, they already know what we want.

Agreed, unless we hear rumors that the Giants or some other team is about to move up. In that case, we'd have to act fast.

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too risky

He's by far, the only QB in the draft that I see as a franchise guy.

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I prefer a trade up during the actual draft.  Let's see if he falls to four and then go for it.  Be ready to fight and get the deal done.  Anything before the draft is only setting us up to be jumped by a team already knowing what we want.  Though, they already know what we want.

Agreed, unless we hear rumors that the Giants or some other team is about to move up. In that case, we'd have to act fast.

The only sure thing is to trade with Arizona.  And that will be a king's ransom.

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Fix the O-Line!

He's by far, the only QB in the draft that I see as a franchise guy.

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Agreed, unless we hear rumors that the Giants or some other team is about to move up. In that case, we'd have to act fast.

The only sure thing is to trade with Arizona.  And that will be a king's ransom.

If it would finally get us a truly great, franchise QB that we would have for 10+ years, wouldn't it be worth it?

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The only sure thing is to trade with Arizona.  And that will be a king's ransom.

If it would finally get us a truly great, franchise QB that we would have for 10+ years, wouldn't it be worth it?

That's the thing though, you don't know  that.  What if he isnt?  It would probably be the end of the Jags franchise by missing on a QB and trading away future 1sts and other high picks.  Thank God you ain't the GM

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If it would finally get us a truly great, franchise QB that we would have for 10+ years, wouldn't it be worth it?

That's the thing though, you don't know  that.  What if he isnt?  It would probably be the end of the Jags franchise by missing on a QB and trading away future 1sts and other high picks.  Thank God you ain't the GM

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If it would finally get us a truly great, franchise QB that we would have for 10+ years, wouldn't it be worth it?

That's the thing though, you don't know  that.  What if he isnt?  It would probably be the end of the Jags franchise by missing on a QB and trading away future 1sts and other high picks.  Thank God you ain't the GM

And if we sign Foles to a 5 year $25 million per year deal and he doesn't work out, that wouldn't be just as bad, if not worse? That would handcuff us even longer. Anything we do is a risk. People rarely hit it big by playing it safe. Sometimes you need to gamble and swing for the fences.

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There is no way I'd give up this year's 3rd rounder and next year's 1st pick to move up for Haskins. If he were an Andrew Luck (almost surefire success), that would be a no-brainer. After reviewing several draft sites opinions, he is far from a guaranteed franchise quarterback. Russell Lande has been scouting drafts for longer than most. He was interviewed by Mike Dempsey this past week and he expressed many reservations about Haskins. Although his completion percentage is high, a high percentage of his passes are screen passes or short passes to his gifted receivers. His accuracy falls off dramatically when throwing longer balls. Lande looks at a ton of tape and charts all of this. Does that mean Haskins is not worth a first round pick as Lande stated? If the Jaguar scouts like what they've seen in Haskins and believe he has the potential to become a franchise q.b., they should sit pat and hope he falls to them with the 7th pick. If he doesn't, they may also be high on Drew Lock- who probably has the strongest arm of all quarterbacks in the draft. Lande is far from the only "expert" with reservations about Haskins. His lack of mobility and only one year of starting experience are also legitimate enough concerns which would make trading away "the farm" a bad option. It's fine to "gamble and swing for the fences" as long as you have a strong chance of succeeding.

The Jaguars brass may be planning to pay Foles a ton of money to reunite him with John DeFillipo (sp). Is he worth the $20-$25 million per year he will demand? No, but neither are 99% of the overpaid free agents and at least Foles has a Super Bowl MVP to his credit. Even if he turns out to be just average to slightly above average, he is the one quarterback available next year who gives them the best chance to win "now." If he fails badly, that means the Jaguars will have a high draft pick again next season when the chances of finding a rookie franchise q.b. should be better. Bottom line is the Jaguars need to either go with Haskins or Lock with their 7th pick or sign Foles and then draft a developmental q.b. in rounds 3 or 4.

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There is no way I'd give up this year's 3rd rounder and next year's 1st pick to move up for Haskins. If he were an Andrew Luck (almost surefire success), that would be a no-brainer. After reviewing several draft sites opinions,  he is far from a guaranteed franchise quarterback. Russell Lande has been scouting drafts for longer than most. He was interviewed by Mike Dempsey this past week and he expressed many reservations about Haskins. Although his completion percentage is high, a high percentage of his passes are screen passes or short passes to his gifted receivers. His accuracy falls off dramatically when throwing longer balls. Lande looks at a ton of tape and charts all of this. Does that mean Haskins is not worth a first round pick as Lande stated? If the Jaguar scouts like what they've seen in Haskins and believe he has the potential to become a franchise q.b., they should sit pat and hope he falls to them with the 7th pick. If he doesn't, they may also be high on Drew Lock- who probably has the strongest arm of all quarterbacks in the draft. Lande is far from the only "expert" with reservations about Haskins. His lack of mobility and only one year of starting experience are also legitimate enough concerns which would make trading away "the farm" a bad option. It's fine to "gamble and swing for the fences" as long as you have a strong chance of succeeding.

The Jaguars brass may be planning to pay Foles a ton of money to reunite him with John DeFillipo (sp). Is he worth the $20-$25 million per year he will demand? No, but neither are 99% of the overpaid free agents and at least Foles has a Super Bowl MVP to his credit. Even if he turns out to be just average to slightly above average, he is the one quarterback available next year who gives them the best chance to win "now." If he fails badly, that means the Jaguars will have a high draft pick again next season when the chances of finding a rookie franchise q.b. should be better. Bottom line is the Jaguars need to either go with Haskins or Lock with their 7th pick or sign Foles and then draft a developmental q.b. in rounds 3 or 4.

If you sign the guy to a 5 year deal at $25 million per season, the team is not going to use a high draft pick on a QB for at least 3 years. No team is gonna admit they were wrong that fast. Look how long this team gave Bortles to prove himself. They even extended him. If this team signs Foles, he's the starter for at least 3 years, no matter how bad he does.

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I wonder if Haskins will be better than Troy Smith?

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I wonder if Haskins will be better than Troy Smith?

What an odd QB to choose....

Troy Smith didn't even play under Urban so why did you choose Troy?

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I prefer a trade up during the actual draft.  Let's see if he falls to four and then go for it.  Be ready to fight and get the deal done.  Anything before the draft is only setting us up to be jumped by a team already knowing what we want.  Though, they already know what we want.

I don't think anybody here is saying to complete a trade before draft day, unless we're moving to p1. Doing so would be setting yourselves up for disaster.

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I wonder if Haskins will be better than Troy Smith?

What an odd QB to choose....

Troy Smith didn't even play under Urban so why did you choose Troy?

Would the post be any less meaningful if the comparison were to Cardale Jones? Is that better?

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I prefer a trade up during the actual draft.  Let's see if he falls to four and then go for it.  Be ready to fight and get the deal done.  Anything before the draft is only setting us up to be jumped by a team already knowing what we want.  Though, they already know what we want.

I don't think anybody here is saying to complete a trade before draft day, unless we're moving to p1. Doing so would be setting yourselves up for disaster.

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What an odd QB to choose....

Troy Smith didn't even play under Urban so why did you choose Troy?

Would the post be any less meaningful if the comparison were to Cardale Jones? Is that better?

Cardale Jones is a better comparison as far as size, ability and the fact they both played under Meyer. With that said, based on tape and stats, Haskins looks like the far superior player. Remember, Jones wasn't even a starter under Meyer. He was a backup who only got playing time because of injury. If not for that, he probably wouldn't have even gotten a shot or been drafted. The only advantage Jones may have on Haskins is arm strength. Other than that, Haskins is way more accurate, makes better reads and has a much quicker release.

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